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Hi im such a newbie, I have/had a beautiful plant she was born feb (given by a friend and supposed to be a cheese variety ) grew real big real quick havent used anylights just natural light in south facing bathroom, and feed with a plant food regular ( grown in normal everyday compost). A friend topped it about 2months ago ( not entirely sure why) It was doing so well untill i had to move it to the greenhouse as it was getting far too big, and now its gone mad, leggy with yellowing and curled down leaves, some leaves even looked burned.. The greenhouse gets hot up to 40'c i keep air rotated by opening windows etc, I havnt a clue of ph levels etc but i will be buying something over the weekend to help with that. Its def out grown its pot which could be the problem, or have i overwatered? Shes growing quite well still loads of new shoots all over and white hairs everywhere, just want to do what i can for the best for her, any help would be great. thank you

Just looking back at some older posts and I have to say this is some of the saddest plants I think I have ever seen! POOR THINGS, LOL. Don't mean to LOL but it keeps me from crying.

I'm not sure this is the right place for this but I need help! my seedlings just popped out of the rockwool this morning before I left for work @ 8am. I had 1 26w cfl overnight & decided to add another this morning because the 1st leaves looked yellow & curled down. Just came from work & they've taken more of a green color but they're still curled down. I'm a newbie to growing & I've never used rockwool. I know a ph of 5.5 is ideal but I soaked them for 30 minutes in distilled water ph of 5.1 prior to planting seeds, can this be the issue?? I haven't watered since the initial soaking which was over 24hrs ago, so I doubt its over watered. This is in a computer grow case by the way with 1 bogus intake fan in the front end of the desktop & an out in the back. It gets pretty warm & dry, can it be humidity? should I cover with clear plastic cups? Thanks in advance I hope somebody response before these babies die.

So here's the deal 1st time grow definetly made mistakes but this is what i got and i'm learning from mistakes but im trying to save what i got.... Please responed with whats wrong and how to fix it!!! Im gonna attach pics just want to give a little more info, growing indoors(limited space), using 8 23watt(100) daylight cfl 6500k one blowing fan one exhaust polyshield enclosure with lights on 18hrs and 6 off watering every 7days was giving nutes but stopped 2weeks ago thinking it was nute burn!!! Think theres something else wrong... Also plants will be 3months from sprout in 5days.. 1st i had some brown spots on leaves, then some turn crispy and dry now im noticing edges of leaves are turning purpleish maybe black along whole outline of leaf..Also like i said ive made mistakes but im growing in a mix of MG potting soil, perlite....

Thank you thread for the much appreciated help!

I have had the same reoccurring deficiency for the past several grows during both veg and flower phases.
After reviewing several posts including the Guide to Nutrient Deficiency and Toxicity thread I believe it to be both a potassium and magnesium deficiency.
I was hoping to hear from some growers who have more experienced then it when it comes to this aspect.
I will measure runoff ph and ppm as soon as I get a chance.

Specs:
-indoor
-Strain: DJ Short's BlueBerry (first 4 pics) and a True OG (final 5th pic)
-pro-mix hp (premix 10gals of promix w/ 2 tblsp of dolomite lime and ironite from Home Depot)
-feed using RO water
-pictures are of 4 week old plants vegging
-soil drenched once every third or fourth day depending on each plants water uptake
-nutrients every other watering at half strength using Pure blend Pro grow, silica blast, & liquid karma

First time grow and I need help what is the problem of my baby.

Growing indoor
Watering schedule:2-3 days 2.5 liter water with advenced nutrients. pot size 17 liter.
What stage of growth: 5. week of veg.

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View attachment 2624652I'm currently growing indoors in a cardboard grow box lined with Mylar. I'm using 2 CFL 3,750 lumens total 6,600k. The soil is Organic Potting Soil, with added bat guano, worm castings, and permite. I'm lightly spay watering it as needed a few times a day with water and VF-11. They are currently in seedlings stage. This is the only one of 5 white rhino seeds sprouted that looks like it's having an issue. Also I have 1 royal queen cheese seed that has not sprouted that I'm wondering about. Today is day 9. All help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Hey SD,

Since i dont know your ph level, the first thing that I noticed when I saw the pics was that the leaves are curling up.. From seed the first leaves grow out and curl down to make room for the first "true leaves". If those are the first true leaves: Are your lights too close? Curling of the leaves from my experience (grow notes) is usually due to air temperatures over 90 or too much wind too early (dries out the leaves). That's only if there are no nute and ph deficiencies at hand..

Try turning the fans down or point them in a different direction and controlling the air temperature by moving your lights further away.. Hopefully it's as simple as that..

Speaking of lights.. 6500k is optimal for vegging (I'm aware there is a huge dispute about it..). I noticed you wrote you had 6600k. In my cfl setup I have 2 6500k and 2 2700k cfls to widen the spectrum, for me that works great. Maybe if you switch out the lights to at least 6500k (2 for $10 home depot) the plant will have more energy due to the spectrum adjustment and show you more consistent growth?

Oh, and give the other seeds some time, some are just slower..(especially cheese from seed). The seedling that's taking off first might even turn out to be a male (male plants do grow faster from seed).

Of course, feminized seeds would eliminate the stressful wait while sexing.. (Sorry for that one, just don't know if you have feminized seeds..) I had to learn that lesson the hard way and found out that regular seeds are often males and therefore a complete miss..(turns the grow op to a sickening sausage fest..).

God I hope this post makes sense, had to "dispose" of some recent finger hash.. Soo..
Anyway, cheers!

Nozzle,

Whoa.. Looks like a very imbalanced plant bro..

In the younger leaves in the first pic it looks like magnesium deficiency and in the new growth iron deficient.. but judging the whole picture.. Iron, nitrogen, magnesium and sulfer deficiencies.. It seems that older leaves have other problems or even multiple..

Whats the ph and ppm of your water? Ph level effects absorption of different nutrients.. Too many nutes can cause a lockout.. Start by changing out your water, flushing your plants, adjusting your ph and give them a fresh batch of nutes.

I had this (similar) problem during my first grow years ago and it was because my ph level would bounce around and I didn't have it figured out yet that lights and water don't mix in an ebb and flow setup. In soilless mix the ph could bounce around too between waterings from the water/nutes you use..

Hope that helps..

Wow, thank you for that. So here's the deal. I have upgraded the lights and now have CFL 4800 lumen in a 18 x 18in growbox. I tested both the water and soil today and both were good in regards to the ph. I did have fan that might have been blowing a little hard so I have turned that off for now. They are feminized seeds from royal queen. I did give the a good watering today so if I were to flush them how long do I have to wait? I have not given them nute yet but do add 1oz VF-11 to water. The light were also pretty close so I have moved them back a little.

Update on the plants today. So I have added another light and now have 6000 lumens or 4000 psf I have turned the fans off and they seem to be liking that. Now my question is when can I turn them back on? Also I changed the way I'm watering from spraying the soil a few times a day to yesterday I gave them a good watering enough for a little runoff (also so I could test the ph) and then have let them be today and will most likely do the same tomorrow if they are light enough. I also have tried to make them all the same distance from the light about 3-4 inches. Still nothing on the disappointing cheese seed but I guess thats life. Maybe it'll come around, we'll see. Let me know if you think they look better or if there still in bad shape. The one definitely has a burn but looks like it's a fighter, and the other has a little brown on the end of a leaf but that is just part of the seed that is stuck on. Feedback is awesome!!!

looks like you're maybe growing them in a somewhat cool indoor climate. don't worry about the yellow tips. just keep watering. and sometimes all the plant needs is a new soil setting. it starts growing roots in funny patterns because of the grow medium, and ends up progressing abnormally as it tries to free itself underground. there could be bugs eating at the roots. millions of things, but all in all that plant looks pretty good. don't be afraid to simply clip off the majority of a leaf to "cut off" the diseased/malnourished portion. maybe just something as easy as using filtered/bottled water for a couple weeks. good luck! that plant looks like it's going to produce thick, dense nugs.

What are you useing for light?

Agree with OG, leave fan off.Plain water is all she needs for 2-3 weeks. If you are new to this i'd recomend picking up a go-box from General organics.I use the G.O line for seedlings and clone's, once rooted enough to pot up.You really can't over do it with gen. organics. Good luck with that! Also remember, a watched plant never grow's!

SDLotus said:

Update on the plants today. So I have added another light and now have 6000 lumens or 4000 psf I have turned the fans off and they seem to be liking that. Now my question is when can I turn them back on? Also I changed the way I'm watering from spraying the soil a few times a day to yesterday I gave them a good watering enough for a little runoff (also so I could test the ph) and then have let them be today and will most likely do the same tomorrow if they are light enough. I also have tried to make them all the same distance from the light about 3-4 inches. Still nothing on the disappointing cheese seed but I guess thats life. Maybe it'll come around, we'll see. Let me know if you think they look better or if there still in bad shape. The one definitely has a burn but looks like it's a fighter, and the other has a little brown on the end of a leaf but that is just part of the seed that is stuck on. Feedback is awesome!!!View attachment 2627867View attachment 2627869View attachment 2627870View attachment 2627873View attachment 2627877

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Glad it worked out SD! Looking better..

Sorry, I've been "away" for a few days... I went trimming for a close friend in Cali.. Got some mean finger hash out of it and I couldn't refuse that!

At this point in your young plants life they don't need any direct fan action.. They are still fragile. I'd say when they get the third node, start going with enough direct fan to "gently rock" the leaves.. It will strengthen the stalks to support the weight of your bud later..

As for me, In this stage of growth I use a clip fan (4" fan) indirectly (bounce wind off a wall) and on a low setting to create a small breeze. Umm.. Just enought to move the air around the plants but not enough to rock them yet..

In the end you just have to listen to your plants.. Now you know what it looks like when they are not liking the fans so I'd experiment a little and take notes on how the strain reacts to it.. Documenting helps you dial in on the needs of specific strains in order to achieve awesome yields, troubleshoot strain specific issues , pair strains for a grow and all together easier grows..

Hopefully that made some sense and keep it up!

hi guys,
I think my plant has a problem. I am using a ghe waterfarm indoor with extra holes and a bubble stone. my problem is the older leaves of my plant began to look pale and there are white dots on it. I made a google search and discovered it looks like both spider mites and thrips. I am also figting with fungus gnats. my problem is, I cannot be sure if it's mites, gnats or something else. here are the pictures. thanks!
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