Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

hyroot

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What about that Mexican charcoal that looks like burnt wood? That sells for $5 a bag at any grocery store. Most people use it for smokers.
 

RedCarpetMatches

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What about that Mexican charcoal that looks like burnt wood? That sells for $5 a bag at any grocery store. Most people use it for smokers.
If it's 100% natural it should work. I just went on a little hike and gathered some small logs. I have a lot of pine trees and want to char the needles.
 

hyroot

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If it's 100% natural it should work. I just went on a little hike and gathered some small logs. I have a lot of pine trees and want to char the needles.
I wish I had spots to hike near by. Nothing but sand and date palm trees for days. When I was in Mo's hood I went hiking all the time. Spots every where
 

RedCarpetMatches

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I wish I had spots to hike near by. Nothing but sand and date palm trees for days. When I was in Mo's hood I went hiking all the time. Spots every where
It's probably the only luxury in this crap state. Forrest humus, untainted leaves, and lots of guerrilla spots!
 
Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this, but I'm planning on switching over to organic and have some questions. I have been using GH nutes and reusing the same soil in raised beds (non-draining) for about 3 years with no problems. The soil I have now is a base of promix hp and I've been adding coco, EWC, GH rare earth silica, dolomite lime, hygrozyme and cal-ox after each harvest. I want to switch over to organic soil and am wondering if it is possible to wash my existing soil to remove salts and any remaining nutes, instead of the hassle and cost of removing a LOT of soil and replacing with a LOT of new soil. I would then add some organic amendments like glacial rock dust, kelp meal, crab meal, and neem meal. Would this work if I removed the dirt and placed it on a screen in a bathtub and then rinsed it very good with hot/boiling water?

Will the soil be organic if I wash very thoroughly with water, and if the amendments I add are organic?

Will I have to let it sit for a while after washing and adding the amendments?
 

RedCarpetMatches

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Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this, but I'm planning on switching over to organic and have some questions. I have been using GH nutes and reusing the same soil in raised beds (non-draining) for about 3 years with no problems. The soil I have now is a base of promix hp and I've been adding coco, EWC, GH rare earth silica, dolomite lime, hygrozyme and cal-ox after each harvest. I want to switch over to organic soil and am wondering if it is possible to wash my existing soil to remove salts and any remaining nutes, instead of the hassle and cost of removing a LOT of soil and replacing with a LOT of new soil. I would then add some organic amendments like glacial rock dust, kelp meal, crab meal, and neem meal. Would this work if I removed the dirt and placed it on a screen in a bathtub and then rinsed it very good with hot water?

Will the soil be organic if I wash very thoroughly with water (boiling?), and if the amendments I add are organic?

Will I have to let it sit for a while after washing and adding the amendments?
I was in the same boat awhile back. I dumped about 10 cu ft. out back, and let the weather handle it. It should be great stuff this spring. I went gun ho full living soil, so I seen the mix as contaminated. You could simply flush the hell out of it, squeeze out excess, and then inoculate with EWC, amendments, and a good compost tea to moisten it. Your mix will only be as good as your humus. What do you plan on using for EWC/compost? Do you have a worm bin?
 
I have found a local place where I can get red wigglers for $20/pound and good quality black gold worm castings. I was also thinking about ordering some denali gold alaskan humus if necessary.

I just started plans for my own compost and thought I would add quite a few cubic feet of my old soil in the compost bin to get things started.
 

foreverflyhi

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Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this, but I'm planning on switching over to organic and have some questions. I have been using GH nutes and reusing the same soil in raised beds (non-draining) for about 3 years with no problems. The soil I have now is a base of promix hp and I've been adding coco, EWC, GH rare earth silica, dolomite lime, hygrozyme and cal-ox after each harvest. I want to switch over to organic soil and am wondering if it is possible to wash my existing soil to remove salts and any remaining nutes, instead of the hassle and cost of removing a LOT of soil and replacing with a LOT of new soil. I would then add some organic amendments like glacial rock dust, kelp meal, crab meal, and neem meal. Would this work if I removed the dirt and placed it on a screen in a bathtub and then rinsed it very good with hot/boiling water?

Will the soil be organic if I wash very thoroughly with water, and if the amendments I add are organic?

Will I have to let it sit for a while after washing and adding the amendments?
Aact, act , and oyster mushrooms!!!
 

RedCarpetMatches

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I have found a local place where I can get red wigglers for $20/pound and good quality black gold worm castings. I was also thinking about ordering some denali gold alaskan humus if necessary.

I just started plans for my own compost and thought I would add quite a few cubic feet of my old soil in the compost bin to get things started.
Sounds like you'll be off to a great start! Local is best and least expensive, or better yet FREE!!! The Alaskan humus is excellent and would add great diversity, but you'll pay. The local EWC should be fine until you have your own compost. Mix in a third EWC and you'll have no prob. I would flush the old mix tho.
 
Sounds like you'll be off to a great start! Local is best and least expensive, or better yet FREE!!! The Alaskan humus is excellent and would add great diversity, but you'll pay. The local EWC should be fine until you have your own compost. Mix in a third EWC and you'll have no prob. I would flush the old mix tho.
Thanks RCM. I am planning on removing 1/3 of the existing mix as a starter base for a few different compost bins that I want to start. After rinsing the remaining soil, I would like to add the black gold EWC, some compost, and a little bit of organic rice hulls, pumice and lava rock. Then, probably let it cook for a while.

Any idea what the easiest way is to flush the old mix?
 

RedCarpetMatches

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Thanks RCM. I am planning on removing 1/3 of the existing mix as a starter base for a few different compost bins that I want to start. After rinsing the remaining soil, I would like to add the black gold EWC, some compost, and a little bit of organic rice hulls, pumice and lava rock. Then, probably let it cook for a while.

Any idea what the easiest way is to flush the old mix?
You could maybe run water through a pot or container ;) Any good rain coming soon?
 

snowboarder396

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Tomahawker, Id say once you get that soil going and living full of micro-organisms you'll be good. They will also help clean your soil out overtime.
 

Tjingles

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Hey so i have a question. I've made lacto-b before and did it with organic milk...I forgot to pick up some from wholefoods(also where I work) and am off tomorrow but my rice wash is ready now. Being no place in my general area has OG milk will my end product be affected if I used a none og milk?
 
Tomahawker, Id say once you get that soil going and living full of micro-organisms you'll be good. They will also help clean your soil out overtime.
I imagine it will take a long time for the soil to be populated with a lot of good micro-organisms. Will the plants be able to get enough of their nutrients from the newly mixed soil right away, or will I have to supplement with some organic nutes for a while at the start until the soil has enough nutrients on its own?
 

snowboarder396

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As long as there is not to many things in the soil that would kill the microbes I dont think it would take long. I just mixed up a batch or organic soil couple days ago and it already has a good mycelium. Think of it this way you wanna feed the soil and microbes not the plant. At least this is what i have come to learn. They populate pretty fast if conditions are right and they have the food to sustain them. make up some good AACT and that will def. help get your soil moving along.
 

foreverflyhi

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Hey so i have a question. I've made lacto-b before and did it with organic milk...I forgot to pick up some from wholefoods(also where I work) and am off tomorrow but my rice wash is ready now. Being no place in my general area has OG milk will my end product be affected if I used a none og milk?
Thats fine, ive read someone using almond milk, which i would advise not too because its more expensive, i say use the cheapest price milk u can get
 

foreverflyhi

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Thats what i was thinking to when i read he used almond milk, maybe i misread and aaid not to use almond milk.. My bad, bad avice, ill look into it
 
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