Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

st0wandgrow

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It looks a bit wobbly due to the glass, but you might want to look up violin spiders ot looks quite close. In which case fukin squash it. Naaaaaaaaassssttttyyyyyyy bastards.

I looked it up last night and am pretty sure it's an orb weaver. Supposedly harmless to humans, but either way it was escorted to a tree across the street. I'd shit my pants if I found that in bed with me! :shock:
 

Midwest Weedist

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Let's talk about application rates for a lactobacillus soil drench. I have another culture of it brewing currently but my only experience is making a hobaski composting bin.
I've been reading that a 20:1 water:lactobacillus is what's suggested.
But what would happen if I cut that to 10:1 or even undiluted? Would the lacto overpopulate the other beneficial bacteria?
I understand that, like most stuff in Organics, a low but frequent application rate is best.
But can someone actually explain why that would be true in this instance? I want to understand it, not just replicate someone's method.
 

Mad Hamish

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I looked it up last night and am pretty sure it's an orb weaver. Supposedly harmless to humans, but either way it was escorted to a tree across the street. I'd shit my pants if I found that in bed with me! :shock:
Orbs are AWESOME. Usually have a much higher back though, golden or lumo green or yellow markings out this side. The real way to tell an Orb is the web, very thick yellow strands, the worlds strongest spider silk. Not exactly harmless they can leave a huge welt, them teeth are pretty big far as spiders go, but docile as can be I don't see how you would get bitten. You'd hate my place, the rain spiders are double the size of that thing and when i point out how to spot the black widows you will crap yourself lol. Only spiders worth fearing are funnel webs and violin spiders. The rest are OK really never cause problems.
 

st0wandgrow

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Orbs are AWESOME. Usually have a much higher back though, golden or lumo green or yellow markings out this side. The real way to tell an Orb is the web, very thick yellow strands, the worlds strongest spider silk. Not exactly harmless they can leave a huge welt, them teeth are pretty big far as spiders go, but docile as can be I don't see how you would get bitten. You'd hate my place, the rain spiders are double the size of that thing and when i point out how to spot the black widows you will crap yourself lol. Only spiders worth fearing are funnel webs and violin spiders. The rest are OK really never cause problems.
We had an orb living in our backyard a couple summers ago. Very distinct yellow markings on its back, and twice the size of the one pictured above. It made lighting bolt patterns in its web, and would aggressively shake its web back and forth if you got too close. Cool and freaky at the same time.

I probably would hate living where you do with all of the creepy crawly's..... but seeing all of the big cats and other wildlife would be very cool too.
 

Mad Hamish

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We had an orb living in our backyard a couple summers ago. Very distinct yellow markings on its back, and twice the size of the one pictured above. It made lighting bolt patterns in its web, and would aggressively shake its web back and forth if you got too close. Cool and freaky at the same time.

I probably would hate living where you do with all of the creepy crawly's..... but seeing all of the big cats and other wildlife would be very cool too.
LOL they are friggin funny when you get them upset. Mate, sad thing is, if i want to see wild life I need to fork out prices only American tourists can afford. It sucks but I won't bitch, the money funds anti poaching squads and so on so yeah... Some snakes around for sure, but leopard and mountain lion are hunted out. We can go pay to hunt gazelle and buck as part of culls. America has much more truly wild space than South Africa brother. I want to go to the USA and Alaska just to stand in truly big open spaces. Alaska looks WILD.
 

Midwest Weedist

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LOL they are friggin funny when you get them upset. Mate, sad thing is, if i want to see wild life I need to fork out prices only American tourists can afford. It sucks but I won't bitch, the money funds anti poaching squads and so on so yeah... Some snakes around for sure, but leopard and mountain lion are hunted out. We can go pay to hunt gazelle and buck as part of culls. America has much more truly wild space than South Africa brother. I want to go to the USA and Alaska just to stand in truly big open spaces. Alaska looks WILD.
Go Canadian, America isn't exactly the place I'd suggest you come to. If our police don't harass you the citizens probably will.
 
So fellas I was thinking since I have an allergy to crustations I don't think I would want to put crab or shrimp meal into my soil so how well would crickets work I have read that they contain 30% chitin by weight would that be a good enough source?
 

earthling420

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hmm this cover crop (CC) talk has my interest. so with a cc one doesn't need a mulch layer on top of soil Id assume? and what kimd of cover crops are yall using? how was it? ive seen some rum CC's that didn't turn out too well. how good are mushrooms as a cc?
 

Midwest Weedist

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hmm this cover crop (CC) talk has my interest. so with a cc one doesn't need a mulch layer on top of soil Id assume? and what kimd of cover crops are yall using? how was it? ive seen some rum CC's that didn't turn out too well. how good are mushrooms as a cc?
I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will chime in and add what I couldn't answer.
Personally I like to use different clovers like Crimson red and Dutch white clovers. I mulch still, just prior to planting my cc for the cycle. I'll never go back to not having cc or companion plants. For one they help diversify your little ecosystem you created for your ladies. The biggest benefit I've found is that with a cc your rhiosphere very healthy and active. Your soil also retains a better, even level of moisture since the cc physically prevents moisture from evaporating away.
 

st0wandgrow

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hmm this cover crop (CC) talk has my interest. so with a cc one doesn't need a mulch layer on top of soil Id assume? and what kimd of cover crops are yall using? how was it? ive seen some rum CC's that didn't turn out too well. how good are mushrooms as a cc?
It's the bees knees IMO. As Midwest pointed out above it helps a great deal in keeping the soil evenly moist. If you use legumes, clover, etc you can also fix atmospheric N as well.
 
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