Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

4ftRoots

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Oh sweet so those are the longer one than huh? I just have the normal ones. I'm slowly getting into ROLS too and will be getting 15 gallon pots soon too. Do you think two of the small ones for 15 would work ok or does a pot that big need the max ones that you have?
I have used small blumats in large 35 gallon pots with over 15 inches of depth. The secret is to move the drip line closer the deeper the pot gets. Otherwise you will have runaway issues. I use 10 distribution drippers and 2 small blumats per 35 gallon container.
 

Rrog

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Most folks that I have had past discussions with would say that there is value in also measuring soil levels higher up, but the deep probe is best for deep soil. Not saying you can't water a plant with short carrots

I had this convo last year with Irrometer, who makes a great line of tensiometers. I'm looking at having one of those control the drip system, rather than a blumat carrot. More accurate and no runoff potential
 

4ftRoots

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Most folks that I have had past discussions with would say that there is value in also measuring soil levels higher up, but the deep probe is best for deep soil. Not saying you can't water a plant with short carrots

I had this convo last year with Irrometer, who makes a great line of tensiometers. I'm looking at having one of those control the drip system, rather than a blumat carrot. More accurate and no runoff potential
Just trying to help the guy use what he already has instead of buying more pieces to the puzzle. what do you mean about measuring soil levels?

That blumat is a tensiometer. Google ollas. It is the same concept as a blumat and tensiometer except the olas do not create a vacuum. The blumats and tensiometer do because they have a cap/are a closed system.

edit: I added the ollas link because it is hard to find http://permaculturenews.org/2010/09/16/ollas-unglazed-clay-pots-for-garden-irrigation/
 

4ftRoots

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How do you like the 35 gallon pots?
Love them. I remember a post by microbe man where he explained the dimensions for his bed and he said he wouldn't go lower than 30 gallons for a living bed. My plants grow like trees indoors but it did not help the plants nutrition wise. I have to top dress amendments every month at least in flower. But i'll say it again I love them!
 

nvhak49

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I have used small blumats in large 35 gallon pots with over 15 inches of depth. The secret is to move the drip line closer the deeper the pot gets. Otherwise you will have runaway issues. I use 10 distribution drippers and 2 small blumats per 35 gallon container.
I was thinking about getting the distribution drippers too and two small carrots but it might be cheaper in the long run to just get the longer carrots and use the distribution drippers too. Or do the longer carrots work well by themselves in like a 15 gallon pot?
 

bizfactory

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I was thinking about getting the distribution drippers too and two small carrots but it might be cheaper in the long run to just get the longer carrots and use the distribution drippers too. Or do the longer carrots work well by themselves in like a 15 gallon pot?
2x Maxi (long ones) are working fine in 15 gallons. I have the distribution drippers ready but haven't had to use them.
 

Rrog

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For no till / recycle, going big will help a lot. That's why I'm headed to 25 or 30 gal

15 gallon was great when I was growing height restricted and the plants weren't trees.

It's just easier to amend with a larger pot since you have so much more headroom
 

4ftRoots

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I was thinking about getting the distribution drippers too and two small carrots but it might be cheaper in the long run to just get the longer carrots and use the distribution drippers too. Or do the longer carrots work well by themselves in like a 15 gallon pot?
I have never used the maxi. I'm sure the moisture distribution is the same.

I read on the blumat forum that the maxi makes the top of the soil too dry so I didn't upgrade.
 

bizfactory

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I have never used the maxi. I'm sure the moisture distribution is the same.

I read on the blumat forum that the maxi makes the top of the soil too dry so I didn't upgrade.
The top of my soil is always moist, even in the corners. I was worried too but it's been working out. You can also adjust that a bit by extended the drip host further from the carrot so it takes more water to "turn off" the carrot.
 

Rrog

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I'll have 9 foot ceiling instead of 50", so plants will be bigger

I'm hoping to get 10-12 cycles outta them. We'll see
 
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