Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

[hyroot]

I have added mycos, sst's - check, em1 I havent gotten into trying to kiss for now, and I do my own EWC/COMPOST so check there - they don't get rootbound just yet, I do SOG and don't grow trees. maybe its time for me to make a diary on here to show.

For me sst always made the roots explode. I always used either corn seed or mung beans when sprouting...

Em1 / labs will make roots grow thicker. Mycos usually makes the roots explode too. I use xtreme gardening mycos or bioag vam. Apply to the roots each time I transplant. Don't use great white or anything with trichoderma added.

You can add trichoderma when needed in other ways. It's good to use against pathogens. Trichoderma is very carniverous. It will feed on pathogenic bacteria as well as mycorrhizae fungi. So great white is trichdorma dominant and more than likely will be void of mycorrhizae. But with balanced soil, trichoderma is good to have as long as it has a separate food source


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC91202/#!po=4.88722

 

[Strudelheim]

For me sst always made the roots explode. I always used either corn seed or mung beans when sprouting...

Em1 / labs will make roots grow thicker. Mycos usually makes the roots explode too. I use xtreme gardening mycos or bioag vam. Apply to the roots each time I transplant. Don't use great white or anything with trichoderma added.

You can add trichoderma when needed in other ways. It's good to use against pathogens. Trichoderma is very carniverous. It will feed on pathogenic bacteria as well as mycorrhizae fungi. So great white is trichdorma dominant and more than likely will be void of mycorrhizae. But with balanced soil, trichoderma is good to have as long as it has a separate food source


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC91202/#!po=4.88722

Thats the one I use xtreme gardening. I just put a sprinkle in when transplanting into cups. I am correct in understanding that when I reuse this soil, it will still be in there. My plan was to not order any more once Ive used this 2.2 pounds to innoculate close to 300 plants, all of that soil and roots re used. staying warm and moist 100% of the time. They even say these fungi are going to be in your soil already as is, if you have a high quality compost and ewc source

 

[KasparGrower]

I mean you can still do organic living soil without No-till. You just want big pots. I think a 3G will be fine for a smaller plant that has a couple of tops that has 1 sq ft of bloom area, and produces 1-2 zips. Thats what I was askin hyroot just now. I have 2 rooms running perpetual and switched to organic soil over the last year.

I think about no tilling because I don't want to waste gallons and gallons of soil each run.
I'm just trying to figure out how to behave with organic living soil. My biggest concearn is transplanting...

 

[Strudelheim]

I think about no tilling because I don't want to waste gallons and gallons of soil each run.
I'm just trying to figure out how to behave with organic living soil. My biggest concearn is transplanting...

read what hyroot requoted from what he had said before your question. You can re use your soil, even when not doing no till. your not throwing it out at the end of the run, you empty the pots into a large bin, add some re amendments, let it sit for a 1-4 weeks and start planting your vegging plants in it.

 

[KasparGrower]

read what hyroot requoted from what he had said before your question. You can re use your soil, even when not doing no till. your not throwing it out at the end of the run, you empty the pots into a large bin, add some re amendments, let it sit for a 1-4 weeks and start planting your vegging plants in it.

I got it... but doing so you can't run a perpetual grow right? Or if you do you gotta have double the soil to cycle.

 

[hyroot]

Thats the one I use xtreme gardening. I just put a sprinkle in when transplanting into cups. I am correct in understanding that when I reuse this soil, it will still be in there. My plan was to not order any more once Ive used this 2.2 pounds to innoculate close to 300 plants, all of that soil and roots re used. staying warm and moist 100% of the time. They even say these fungi are going to be in your soil already as is, if you have a high quality compost and ewc source

Mycos should still be present in the soil. After harvest they sporalate into the soil waiting for the next roots as long as the soil doesnt dry out. The mycos die off after a year.


I keep aged recycled soil in rubbermaid totes that can be up to 3 years old. I use that soil for veg plants. I reapply mycos each time I transplant with the old soil.

When i build new sips or get new fabric pots. The soil from the pots gets dumped into totes. Then I use the older soil thats been cooking forever and has fresh castings for flower (I have worms in all my soil). So for this situation mycos needs to be applied too

 

[hyroot]

I got it... but doing so you can't run a perpetual grow right? Or if you do you gotta have double the soil to cycle.

Its always good.to have extra soil on hand. I make a new batch of.soil of every few years and mix it with old. soil.

You don't need to double your soil if you don't have the space. If your veg space and flower space are the same size. I would veg in final pots form the beginning and veg and flower in both rooms

 

[KasparGrower]

Its always good.to have extra soil on hand. I make a new batch of.soil of every few years and mix it with old. soil.

You don't need to double your soil if you don't have the space. If your veg space and flower space are the same size. I would veg in final pots form the beginning and veg and flower in both rooms

I see what you are saying but if I veg and flower in both rooms,I throw away the advantage of a perpetual grow. Especially if I run regs,starting with a final pot size would compromise selecting females since there would not be anough space for selection.

 

[Strudelheim]

starting in a 3G pot from a cutting takes up a sq ft for such a small plant. small plants and small pots, means smaller footprint and less light is needed. And if one is experimenting with soil mixes and learning, using massive pots suck, when it doesn't work out. smaller plants and pots allow me to veg 50+ plants under a 630 cmh with them all at different stages to keep feeding the perpetual bloom room. I take the best looking ones that are in 1g and put them into a 3g, veg for 1-2 weeks directly under the light so they get the most intense area. Then into the bloom room, and then same with the next.

 

[projectinfo]

starting in a 3G pot from a cutting takes up a sq ft for such a small plant. small plants and small pots, means smaller footprint and less light is needed. And if one is experimenting with soil mixes and learning, using massive pots suck, when it doesn't work out. smaller plants and pots allow me to veg 50+ plants under a 630 cmh with them all at different stages to keep feeding the perpetual bloom room. I take the best looking ones that are in 1g and put them into a 3g, veg for 1-2 weeks directly under the light so they get the most intense area. Then into the bloom room, and then same with the next.

What are you feeding them in veg

 

[Strudelheim]

I use my soil mix, and just water only with some silica. SST's every once in awhile. I found compost teas pushed the mix over the edge since it was so rich already so I decided to just do plain water for the last few weeks. Heres some pics and my mix, any suggestions are appreciated!

Blueberry Cheesecake Day 29


white pot worms combining into a mass and devouring injured worm

Most recent mix recipe

 

[Moldy]

Subbed! Been growing with hot soil for a couple of years and love it but need to up my game. Great thread!

 

[Chronikool]

Alien Rift in ROLS at Harvest

 

[lokie]

My first fully organic harvest was a success. There are a few tweeks I will make
but it's all good.

My question:

Having made tinctures and cannabutter, I've collected several bags of strained plant material.

I've dabbled with these dreggs and think i may just toss them.
Can food grade Vegetable Glycerin, Organic Coconut Oil and cannabis dreggs be tossed into the
compost?

Thanks

 

[Strudelheim]

My first fully organic harvest was a success. There are a few tweeks I will make
but it's all good.

My question:

Having made tinctures and cannabutter, I've collected several bags of strained plant material.

I've dabbled with these dreggs and think i may just toss them.
Can food grade Vegetable Glycerin, Organic Coconut Oil and cannabis dreggs be tossed into the
compost?

Thanks

Everything can go in compost. I even throw meat in it. dead mice, even live mice, they live in there eat scraps and poop, help decompose and provide guano, have babies and overwinter. then I harvest the compost, they run out into the yard, then back into the garage where they go into mouse traps, then I throw the carcass into the compost. Ahh the circle of life.

 

[Grow for fun only]

Alien Rift in ROLS at Harvest

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that's really a beauty

 

[hillbill]

MARS EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH!!!

 

[TheBeardedBudzman]

Oh hey guys. Just thought I’d drop on into organics to say the admins on this site are a bunch of American-hating, racist cowards that feed info to the feds and like it up the ass

 

[Strudelheim]

k thanks

 

[hyroot]

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