alien mushroomhead
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Cool thanks man. Is there a certain brand of aloe gel that does not have the sorbate? Or should I just play it safe and invest in some aloe plants?
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Mohican
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Here is my Holy Smoke Mulanje Gold Landrace #2 growing in the compost pile - not a single burnt tip and no deficiencies. When I water it does not even puddle - just soaks right in. This soil was originally like concrete (clay). After a year of draining from the Big Clone in the trashcan and another year of compost pile it is a much more active soil 
There is a melon growing in there too:
Cheers,
Mo
There is a melon growing in there too:
Cheers,
Mo
st0wandgrow
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An aloe plant is the best way, imo. A lot of people use the 200x freeze dried aloe as well from here: https://www.ingredientstodiefor.com/blogs/index.php/aloe-vera-in-products?blog=1
alien mushroomhead
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Thanks for the info man. The whole plant does seem like the safest way. I think the powder makes more sense if dollars are an issue, but here is a paragraph from above link that makes me worry about the powder too:
Maybe I`m worrying for nothing if this is also in the whole plant.
- Saponins:: These soapy substances form about 3% of the Aloe Vera gel and are capable of cleansing, having antiseptic properties. These act powerfully as anti-microbials against bacteria, viruses, fungi and yeasts.
Maybe I`m worrying for nothing if this is also in the whole plant.
alien mushroomhead
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Just did some more reading up on the plant as a whole. The saponins are in the plant as well. along with a shit ton of good stuff though...20 different amino acids, and a bunch of vitamins and minerals. Maybe the good out weighs the bad??
boblawblah421
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I just did a coconut water foliar. Anybody have any reason why this may have been a bad idea?
VTMi'kmaq
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If you can grab some local Japanese aloe you'd be a happy farmer, either outside or in the growroom under the hps they thrive and will provide you with loads of fronds to use in many applications. If you have trouble I may be able to send you 4-5 babies. I have too many according to my wife. I am a as long as its alive im keeping it farmer lol. I will part with a few babies though. I gave a dozen away at my local farmers market this spring!
alien mushroomhead
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Thanks VTM. If I can`t find any Japanese aloe I may take you up on the offer. But if your "where drinking water is safe" I can`t imagine your close to me, my drinking water is super shitty lol There are a few greenhouses where I live, I will go see what species they have.
alien mushroomhead
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Have not used it yet myself, but I don`t think it`s harmful. I plan to just use it in the soil though. I think it was cann, headtreep or rrog that said it has no benefit for foliar, but is great for a soil drench.
st0wandgrow
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alien: You're fine with the aloe. I wouldn't be concerned at all with what you did. One feeding is fine. The fresh aloe, or the freeze dried aloe is beneficial for your plants. Many people have been using it (myself included) with nothing but positive effects.
Boblaw: The enzymes are what we're after in coconut juice. As with aloe, fresh is best. Bottled coconut juice often times doesn't contain any preservatives, but in order to pass FDA regulations they have to heat the coconut water to 165 degrees (don't quote me on that temp) which renders useless the beneficial enzymes. Fresh, young coconuts are what you want. Asian markets or other specialty markets carry these. Should be $2 or $3 out the door. A decent sized young coconut should yield 1-2 cups of water. You can also dig the meat out of it and toss it in your worm bin.
Boblaw: The enzymes are what we're after in coconut juice. As with aloe, fresh is best. Bottled coconut juice often times doesn't contain any preservatives, but in order to pass FDA regulations they have to heat the coconut water to 165 degrees (don't quote me on that temp) which renders useless the beneficial enzymes. Fresh, young coconuts are what you want. Asian markets or other specialty markets carry these. Should be $2 or $3 out the door. A decent sized young coconut should yield 1-2 cups of water. You can also dig the meat out of it and toss it in your worm bin.
Staink
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Whooooooweeee this is what I'm talking about. Nice plant!!
Here is one Malawi Gold girl in a 30 gallon galvanized trashcan with a bamboo skirt:
I probably could have used less pumice in the bottom:
Cheers,
Mo
st0wandgrow
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^Damn Mo, that looks like a set of antlers!^
You should have that root-ball mounted
You should have that root-ball mounted
foreverflyhi
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Botanical questions. ive been searching like crazy for horsetail, comfrey, and stinging nettle, all of which I cannot find, is it worth buying online by the bulk? is any of these plants still good to use if powdered? check this website, thinking about trying it. obviously is best and cheaper to go out and collect it, but due to some circumstances thinking about buying it in bulk for now....https://www.starwest-botanicals.com/_search.php?page=1&q=nettle
NickNasty
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I add nettle and comfrey to my soil but I cook my soil after each round. Here is where I get mine. http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/ I think its cheaper then your link. I also add it to my compost. I have stinging nettle seeds and a few bocking 14 comfrey plants but they just went into the soil a few months ago. It says your in California search for permaculture on google around your area you may find some people around there growing tons of the stuff. I know I found a ton of horsetail growing by a pond on a frisbee golf course here in Michigan. Remember nettle and comfrey have a high npk so it doesnt take all that much and if using it in teas it can burn your plants if not diluted.
foreverflyhi
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nnice it is much cheaper and a cool website, thanks!!! I do have connections to some permaculture farms, so ill be giving that a try soon. but for now I do want to purchase my own and try to grow my own. do u use the pwder form or dried leaves? or anyone? thanks
OrganicEcoGrow
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Small scale first time indoor grow using ROLS methodology & K.I.S.S. philosophy. Topdressing using some broken up cannabis stems along with some moss and topsoil from an ecological preserve. A couple weeks ago before the Master Kush seedlings sprouted, I used a whole peel from an organic banana to layer around the outside of the container surface and then covered it with soil - ideally the decomposing peel will act as a reservoir pool of organic carbon, nitrogen, potassium, and some trace elements throughout the entire grow cycle. Thoughts? View attachment 2842684
NickNasty
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I use dry leaves because I want a slower release. Eco grow I have added banana peel meal to my worm castings in flower before but I didn't see much difference but I didn't add a lot and I already have a ton of stuff in my soil. But if anybody wants to learn to make it you just dry banana peels in a food dehydrator or in an oven at under 200 degrees for a few hours and when it gets crispy but not burnt you take it out and run it thru a food processor. It's cool to have around but normally I just add my peels to the compost.
May11th
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Organic ego grower- excuse me if im incorrect but my gut says that if you stick raw materials into your garden then your doing more harm and good only because that peel will prob never break down during that 4 month process indoors, may cause root rot, ive read it from a well known siurce to never stick raw decompositing matter in your soil, get yourself a worm bin though and feed them critters and theyll feed your plants and you. Peace out guys and grrat thread, using these methods and happy to see my plants are feeling it as well. Adios
