Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

[Steelheader3430]

I couldn't find the heavy stuff anywhere. I just bought some. $5.99 for 15 gallon. It would have been a way to kill time but screw it. I've put too much into this to screw it up with diy bags. I recently found out we have acres or sphagnum peat bogs that are at least 20 feet deep. Local farmers have been digging at them for over 50 years.

 

[foreverflyhi]

I couldn't find the heavy stuff anywhere. I just bought some. $5.99 for 15 gallon. It would have been a way to kill time but screw it. I've put too much into this to screw it up with diy bags. I recently found out we have acres or sphagnum peat bogs that are at least 20 feet deep. Local farmers have been digging at them for over 50 years.

Do u know more about the sphagnum peat bogs? For example how long they have been there? Any history behind that area? Animals? Insicts?

i ask because even if its local, and even if local farmers are taking some for themselves, one thing i kno about these types of ecology is that they are very fragile, and take thousands of years.
Not trying to be a downer but i wouldnt dig into those bogs

 

[RedCarpetMatches]

I couldn't find the heavy stuff anywhere. I just bought some. $5.99 for 15 gallon. It would have been a way to kill time but screw it. I've put too much into this to screw it up with diy bags. I recently found out we have acres or sphagnum peat bogs that are at least 20 feet deep. Local farmers have been digging at them for over 50 years.

That's some premo shit...rent a dump truck and fill 50 gallon drums of the water!!! Worlds gonna end way before these tree hungers think. Space queen's coming for us!!!

 

[Steelheader3430]

I don't know any in depth things about them. But I do know the stuff grows faster than some people think. I got a big ass bale from the store so I'm all set. Just thought it was interesting.

 

[mrwood]

I don't know any in depth things about them. But I do know the stuff grows faster than some people think. I got a big ass bale from the store so I'm all set. Just thought it was interesting.

....Just saw a TV show about 'mystery bodies in the bog', told a story of finding bodies centuries old, preserved in irish bogs. AND it talked a little about the makeup of bogs, organic value, farming bogs, etc. Pretty interesting!

 

[Steelheader3430]

Does anyone put worms in their soil? Is that more beneficial as aeration using earthworms during recycling?

 

[RedCarpetMatches]

Does anyone put worms in their soil? Is that more beneficial as aeration using earthworms during recycling?

YES and YES!

 

[boblawblah421]

This is what I thought. Thanks pyroot So I'll take the coco out of my foliar and just stick to kelp, aloe, occasional alfalfa, and protekt/agsil (thinking about horsetail). Anyone foliar with HT? To cold to grow here and I found a place that sells leaf for 10$/#

Sitting here reading... Wondering if anyone was gonna answer your question.

One day I got to thinking about this same matter. If an sst enzyme tea works wonders as a foliar, then a young coconut foliar sounds in order. I mixed up a batch, and gave my moms a foliar with it. I didn't really see anything good or bad come from it. I haven't researched this matter, but I think hyroot is right. It does however say on page one of this thread that young coconut water makes a good foliar for clones, and I have tried this as well. They rooted quite well that time. It may be something in the coconut other than enzymes that is beneficial.

As for the horestail... It's one of the many botanicals, as well as a plethora of other awesome shit found in the only bullshit product I still buy. Earth Compound from Progress Earth. I've mentioned it quite a few times, and I stand by it. I am a little over half way through a $60 bag of this stuff that I bought about five months ago. Totally worth it in my opinion.

Check it out...

Earth Compound | Vortex Brewer | Compost Tea Brewing System | Hydroponic Gardening

 

[NickNasty]

My pots are full of worms. They seem to love it as long as things stay watered. When you have a worm bin and use the castings you inevitably get worms in your pots.

 

[boblawblah421]

Does anyone put worms in their soil? Is that more beneficial as aeration using earthworms during recycling?

I've got a straight worm farm going on in my soil. I see worms of all sizes under my canopy on a daily basis, and my results just keep getting better and better. I also have Blumats set up, so my soil never dries out. There is also an air manifold I built at the bottom of all of my 20 gallon smart pots, and my 300 gallon raised bed, that have big ass air pumps pumping oxygen up into my soil from the bottom.

 

[foreverflyhi]

I've got a straight worm farm going on in my soil. I see worms of all sizes under my canopy on a daily basis, and my results just keep getting better and better. I also have Blumats set up, so my soil never dries out. There is also an air manifold I built at the bottom of all of my 20 gallon smart pots, and my 300 gallon raised bed, that have big ass air pumps pumping oxygen up into my soil from the bottom.
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Can u show us the bottom of your pots with the airpump? Sounds cool

 

[boblawblah421]

I covered the manifold with landscape fabric, then rocks, then more fabric, then soil. In my 300 gallon raised bed I covered the rocks with a 4x8 coco mat.

Same thing with my cloner...


Mom says thanks...

 

[foreverflyhi]

Very very nice!!!! Mad props, very inspirational

 

[RedCarpetMatches]

Doing big things bla!!! I personally like bottom third of el cheapo pots with big lava, rice hulls, and outdoor soil. I'm trying to think of a way to do vert stadium raised beds. Any suggestions...I have several wacko ideas.

 

[boblawblah421]

Doing big things bla!!! I personally like bottom third of el cheapo pots with big lava, rice hulls, and outdoor soil. I'm trying to think of a way to do vert stadium raised beds. Any suggestions...I have several wacko ideas.

I've been going over ideas in my head for some dope ass ROLS raised bed for a vertical system here lately. It'll probably be at least a few months before I get started, but soon I'm gonna start a Google SketchUp blueprint. I had just finished designing a flood and drain vertical system intended to be used with 120 one gallon smart pots when I decided to do away with any container smaller than 20 gallons.

The new one, once attacked, will be a god damn monstrosity. Can't wait.

 

[Nizza]

hey guys i have a local black gold compost that seems pretty heavy
so in an attempt to thin it out, i took some old coco hempy's that have been sitting in my closet (chopped) and rinsed the roots out and seperated/soaked the coco

since the hempy's had been sitting there, the roots had started to break apart, and now theres a ton of small roots in the coco
i was hoping i could just mix it right into the compost, and then plant into it
but i wanted to ask first to see if I could do it a better way (perhaps some tea or something to innoculate the coco?)
thanks ya'll

 

[boblawblah421]

hey guys i have a local black gold compost that seems pretty heavy
so in an attempt to thin it out, i took some old coco hempy's that have been sitting in my closet (chopped) and rinsed the roots out and seperated/soaked the coco

since the hempy's had been sitting there, the roots had started to break apart, and now theres a ton of small roots in the coco
i was hoping i could just mix it right into the compost, and then plant into it
but i wanted to ask first to see if I could do it a better way (perhaps some tea or something to innoculate the coco?)
thanks ya'll

You seem like you're on the right track to me. Go with your gut instinct.

Coco is great once aged in some compost, in my experience. Hit it with a stout bacterial dominant aact before you transplant, as many times as you can. Then hit it with a fungal dominant tea upon transplant, or even incorporated into a regiment of teas before transplant. That's what I do.

I water my soil many times, with many different compost teas, seed sprout enzyme teas, aloe, neem, coconut, kelp, I'm sure I'm forgetting something, maybe a little biodynamic preparations, whatever awesome and organic and as local as possible, for as long of a period of time as possible before transplant.

Have fun with that.

 

[Shwagbag]

hey guys i have a local black gold compost that seems pretty heavy
so in an attempt to thin it out, i took some old coco hempy's that have been sitting in my closet (chopped) and rinsed the roots out and seperated/soaked the coco

since the hempy's had been sitting there, the roots had started to break apart, and now theres a ton of small roots in the coco
i was hoping i could just mix it right into the compost, and then plant into it
but i wanted to ask first to see if I could do it a better way (perhaps some tea or something to innoculate the coco?)
thanks ya'll

Sounds good to me. You are essentially inoculating it by mixing it with the compost but I would probably take it a step further and hit it with a tea or top dress with a diverse selection of organic additives. I like to top dress with some super soil mix, EWC, Dr. Earth 745 or Espoma Tomato Tone. On top of that I like to drop some dried molasses which adds some food for the little ones and reduces the stench of the organic matter.

 

[RedCarpetMatches]

Oh the gamble of coco. I'm just now dialing it in a LOS after about 6 months. What was run through those hempy's...might be 'contaminated' with bottled poison. Worms love coco as bedding BTW. I would rinse the shit out of it first, then rince again, amend with Ca/Mg, and hydrate it with a good compost tea. I use over a third coco in my mix...no peat. I'm about to hydrate peat with aloe for my ROLS project. Would you guys squeeze out the excess water? The VC I'm mixing it with is moist, and I've had bad experiences with over saturated cooks.

 

[Nizza]

okay so black gold is leaves, with small sticks, and horse manure
5gallons water (a little less maybe)
i guess this is fungally dominant so , i did two handfulls of the black gold.
i did a two pinches of wood ash (wood stove) for shits and giggles (LMK if this is bad!)
i don't have any blackstrap, or honey.
a handful of the coco with dead roots in it
I added a little rapid start which has alfalfa barley and willow bark extract
and a little pinch of household sugar (hoping it may help b/c of no molasses

i regret adding the sugar, should i re-do it without the sugar and maybe a different substitute? i figured a little pinch wouldn't hurt. But wanted too see if it'd help

if needed, i can tee an 8 outlet hydrofarm pump onto one or two airstones in the 5gal bucket , but for now i just put a dual output pump onto one stone

i'm broke as shit right now, bills are paid though..
hence the coco-recycling
any more suggestions? I finally got "teaming with microbes" and plan on reading it within the next week or so

edit: i also have a product called S.O.S. http://www.superorganicstimulator.com/ or http://www.strata-intl.com/SOS/Super-Organic-Stimulator-p-78.htmlbut didn't add it
here's a thread of someone talking about it on riu https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/447936-super-organic-stimulator-aka-sos.html
thinking this might increase diversity?