Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread
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hillbill
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I switched to fish bone meal from Indonesian Bat Guano and it works every bit as well. I used guano for 7 years. Got mine kelp-4-less on eBay,6-20-0. The only negative is that it smells but that goes away after mixing. Used fish meal for years and this smells the same. Excellent results!
mr. childs
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i always thought of the opposite, i thought one of the sources tria can be derived from is alfalfa isnt it? stuff just reeks when you use it for teas though...
ShLUbY
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Yeah the good fishbone meal smells a lot compare to the lower quality stuff (like DTE brand)
WitchDoctor
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32 30 gallon pot mix
Girls scout cookies fematized
Fluxing all plants
30 gallon smart pots
Base mix:
30 CF peats moss
30 CF rice hulls
32 CF worm castings
10 gallons aloe vera juice
Agriculture Tumbler peats moss and aloe vera overnight to completely hydrate peats moss...Add remaining base mix...
Amendments:
150 lbs rabbit manure
20 lbs afalpha
100 lbs 6 malt barley
20 lbs kelp meal
30 lbs crab meal
40 lbs neem meal
50 lbs basalt powder
50 lbs glacier rock powder
What do you all think???
Girls scout cookies fematized
Fluxing all plants
30 gallon smart pots
Base mix:
30 CF peats moss
30 CF rice hulls
32 CF worm castings
10 gallons aloe vera juice
Agriculture Tumbler peats moss and aloe vera overnight to completely hydrate peats moss...Add remaining base mix...
Amendments:
150 lbs rabbit manure
20 lbs afalpha
100 lbs 6 malt barley
20 lbs kelp meal
30 lbs crab meal
40 lbs neem meal
50 lbs basalt powder
50 lbs glacier rock powder
What do you all think???
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Chunky Stool
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I've still got 10 lbs of Indonesian bat guano (0-7-0) but when it's gone, I'll look at fish bone meal. I also really dig Peruvian seabird guano (11-12-0). Works GREAT in nutrient teas. Plants can't get enough of the stuff!
During flower I use half strength doses of both types of guano, plus K2SO4 & humic acid. Totally kicks ass!
AllDayToker
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Hey so I posted up a few days back with my recent run and it seemed like the problem was it was just a light soil.
I'm hoping to get some stuff ordered so by the time I'm finished chopping all my amendments are here and I can beef up my soil mix. What would you recommend adding? I have some things on hand, anything else I can order.
They also sell a re amending package on build a soil for the soil but if it was light before I'm guessing that wouldn't work well.
I'm hoping to get some stuff ordered so by the time I'm finished chopping all my amendments are here and I can beef up my soil mix. What would you recommend adding? I have some things on hand, anything else I can order.
They also sell a re amending package on build a soil for the soil but if it was light before I'm guessing that wouldn't work well.
Chunky Stool
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So is kelp.
ShLUbY
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well i'd go with something like a greensand and calphos as mentioned before.... and then if you want to get the amendment pack from them... i'd just add those new ingredients at 1/2c per cuft and give it a go.... experimentation is the only way to really find out
i'm going through the same kinda thing as you, except i was seeing deficiencies at week 3 and 4 of flower... i think it was the down to earth amendments and have since switched every single product out for another brand. we'll see how this next run fairs....
Chunky Stool
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You don't like down to earth products? I've used a bunch of their stuff with no problems...well i'd go with something like a greensand and calphos as mentioned before.... and then if you want to get the amendment pack from them... i'd just add those new ingredients at 1/2c per cuft and give it a go.... experimentation is the only way to really find out
i'm going through the same kinda thing as you, except i was seeing deficiencies at week 3 and 4 of flower... i think it was the down to earth amendments and have since switched every single product out for another brand. we'll see how this next run fairs....
ShLUbY
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what rates are you using them at? my soil Ph and all that is fine, and i've been having deficiencies with N, and K mostly (the K i blame on lack of it in the recipe). I've been having to add amendments to the mix at transplant so they'll be ready for the plant weeks down the road.... but the plants just seem to be chewing through the nutrients! I'm not surprised either... the root balls are solid roots through the entire pot...
Chunky Stool
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I usually just use the recommendation on the box. They make a lot of stuff. Right now I've got their langbeinite, azomite, humic acid, oyster shell, Indonesian bat guano, and rock phosphate.
Chronikool
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Fungus eating Ladybird...
BillyBlanks420
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Hey fellow organic growers... On my first no till cycle and I am experiencing some early yellowing in the last week of veg... I top dressed with an inch of Ewc amended with 1/2 cup each of neem/kelp/Crustacean and am hoping this will fix it because I want to flip any day now... I was wondering about an alfalfa foilar...
In the beginning of this thread it talks about an alfalfa seed tea would reduce internodule spacing during the stretch... I was wondering if an alfalfa meal foilar would do the same thing... Thanks in advance guys
In the beginning of this thread it talks about an alfalfa seed tea would reduce internodule spacing during the stretch... I was wondering if an alfalfa meal foilar would do the same thing... Thanks in advance guys
calliandra
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mm interesting, thanks! Where'd you get it from?
hillbill
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It takes about a week for top dressing to kick butt but I feel you have enough there. Heeping love on them has killed and tortured many plants. Water with compost tea for a herd boost when you water.
GreenSanta
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I'd use less neem and substitute for something else. Too much neem and the smoke will be harsh, I understand this is no till and u are looking at the long term but there are many other amendments available and for pest control neem cake is useless IMO unless u use enough to ruin the taste of the flowers. Based on my experience, from grows that are many years ago...