Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

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4ftRoots

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DankDave420 said:
Where can I learn the basics? I'm paying over $30 a bag for Happy Frog and throwing it away after every grow. Is this possible to do entirely indoors?
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First page of this thread. Everything is gold. The mix is at the bottom by cann. Look around on icmag too. They are brilliant people.

Also look into terra preta. My soil is based on it and is very alive. Even in small 1/2 gallon cactus pots.

Kis organics also has a great podcast. Lots of great information from microbe man and coot. The pioneers of this grow technique.

Elaine Ingham has some great talks and the book teaming with microbes is well worth the price on Amazon.
 
Polyuro

Polyuro

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DankDave420 said:
Where can I learn the basics? I'm paying over $30 a bag for Happy Frog and throwing it away after every grow. Is this possible to do entirely indoors?
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Green's Wedding Cake, sip, probiotics

I feel you there. that was my 2017 and 2018.... 2019 is gonna be a different story. already off to a great start. feel like this year is gonna be a win bongsmilie I don't know man, seems complete enough for tonight to me lol. I saw you put up the 1st post an hour ago and now there's like...
www.rollitup.org

This is a good place to start. Unbelievable results.
 
lokie

lokie

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DankDave420 said:
Where can I learn the basics? I'm paying over $30 a bag for Happy Frog and throwing it away after every grow. Is this possible to do entirely indoors?
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Space availability is the main key. Do you have space to store and mix organic compost? If you live in an apartment things may be a bit more difficult.

Compost components + time + storage space can provide you with a recyclable product that can be a water only to harvest experience. :weed:
 
DankDave420

DankDave420

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I'm just trying to figure out if this is right for me. I have some extra space to work with but my bloom tent is only 32x32".
Trying to minimize my noob questions. A couple quick ones.
What minimum pot size and type of pot would I need to work with?
Is it worth it for a 32x32 grow space?
Another thing I have to consider is right now I grow from reg seed so I'm in a quantity over quality situation. 3 gallon is my sweet spot because I can fit 9 in. If 3 gallon isn't big enough I will have to change my game up.
 
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lokie

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DankDave420 said:
I'm just trying to figure out if this is right for me. I have some extra space to work with but my bloom tent is only 32x32".
Trying to minimize my noob questions. A couple quick ones.
What minimum pot size and type of pot would I need to work with?
Is it worth it for a 32x32 grow space?
Another thing I have to consider is right now I grow from reg seed so I'm in a quantity over quality situation. 3 gallon is my sweet spot because I can fit 9 in. If 3 gallon isn't big enough I will have to change my game up.
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A 3 gal pot will grow a nice plant. I'm considering trying 1 gal pots in a 4x4 tent.
I have flowered in 1 gal pots with success. Some here at RIU get into 12/12 grow offs using red solo cups.
Just remember bigger pot = bigger plant potential. if using smaller pot shorten the veg time.

home composting organic mix $$ vs commercial organic bagged $$ ?
I have not deciphered if I'm actually saving money.
I like the control of what goes in and that only watering from seed to harvest is easy.

While many things can help increase your grow efficiency, LIGHT is always the first place to start upgrading.

Good luck and Happy growing!:weed:
 
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Hiero1

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Just follow the build a soil system. I just rotate the smart pots. When I harvest it's goes back in the veg room. It's all about building a thick mulch layer.
 
DankDave420

DankDave420

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Thanks guys. I just kept seeing people say you had to have 5 gallon or bigger. I don't veg long, just long enough to get them topped. I am happy with my set up I just hate paying 35 bucks a bag and tossing it. There are no grow stores near me. I already bought a bag so it gives me time to research this for next grow. Very helpful thread. :blsmoke:
 
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hillbill

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Buying Sphagnum peatm moss and perlite in big bags or bales helps. Been using Walmart “American Countryside” topsoil successfully in mix for about a year which is mostly composted pine bark “fines”. Homemade earthworm castings are awesome.
 
DankDave420

DankDave420

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I've been researching this stuff for days now. I've been so close to buying so many recipes. What if I wanted to reuse FF Happy Frog and keep it at least as good as it started? What would be the basic steps to achieve this?
Would you have to introduce more biology into the soil and then allow it to "cook" before using?
Or would you just need to focus on amending during and/or after the grow?
 
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DankDave420

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I am a noob.
I want to convey that I understand the basics of living soils, but I'm completely lost.

Maybe a better question I could ask is what makes standard Happy Frog or Ocean forest not reusable?
Is it just too weak basically? Not enough biologicals?
 
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4ftRoots

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DankDave420 said:
I am a noob.
I want to convey that I understand the basics of living soils, but I'm completely lost.

Maybe a better question I could ask is what makes standard Happy Frog or Ocean forest not reusable?
Is it just too weak basically? Not enough biologicals?
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Just make sure to use something other than perlite for aeration.
 
DankDave420

DankDave420

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Thanks everyone. This thread was so helpful. I have most of my materials ordered and I feel fairly confident I will have a good soil and nutrient regiment. :weed:
 
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