Reg. Herijuana IBL or Fem Herijuana from Sannies?
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Natural Gas
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https://www.rollitup.org/seed-strain-reviews/634569-sannies-seeds-herijuana-ibl.html
Question asked before...I guess link broken...FWIW
Question asked before...I guess link broken...FWIW
brotherjericho
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Inbred line?
Natural Gas
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It is on page 29...I'll try the link again... https://www.rollitup.org/seed-strain-reviews/634569-sannies-seeds-herijuana-ibl.html
Hope this one works for ya
This one seems to work...All the best...FWIW
Both Herijuana seeds, reg and fem, are similar and you won't notice the difference. I've grown both and was happy with the end product on each.......
Basically, in the simplest terms, IBL means no "outside" genetics have been introduced to the strain. It's inbred within itself.
Basically, in the simplest terms, IBL means no "outside" genetics have been introduced to the strain. It's inbred within itself.
Depends on your goal...if you just want to grow some out and get wasted, get the fems.
If you have an interest in pollen-chucking, get the regs.
I've grown out the Heri and my take on her is this...there is no denying her power, a tremendous body stone that relieves pain and stimulates appetite, then puts you to sleep. Little to nothing in the head, it's all body high.
Taste...some folks report good-tasting phenos, mine were not exactly what I call tasty, unless you like gasoline and rubber. It must be said the taste improved with a long cure, at least 3 months.
I found it rather boring, to tell the truth. Smoke some, eat everything you can find that's remotely edible, go to sleep. That's about it...
If I grow it out again, it will be in search of a male, not a girl.
Jogro
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Well, herijuana itself is supposedly bred from two lines, "petrolia headstash" a high quality pre-Soviet invasion Afghani indica, and "Killer New Haven", a high-end outdoor strain from Kentucky. So, technically herijuana is an inbred line hybridized from those two parents.
Anyway, like "purebred" dogs, IBL ("inbred line") means that all members of the line will exhibit the same traits.
Grow out any two plants from a pack, and they should be similar in appearance, flowering times, growth characteristics, smell, etc.
Take any two herijuana plants, and cross them, and you'll get more similar plants.
calicat
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If you are planning to breed with it then go for regular. If you want almost 100% guaranteed females without sexing and culling then go for the feminized version. And the above posts concerning what IBL is money.
RockyMtnMan
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Hey Calicat, remember those Boss Hoggs? There was some discussion in another thread about you, myself, midwestern grow and I think a couple others, finding a purple pheno. Those were supposed to be from a Chem-4 incross. I am wondering in breeders descriptions, when they use references like IBL or incross, is that the same? Is an inbread line considered more or less stable? Those Boss Hogg phenos are both great smoke, but obviously posses slightly different traits. It's confusing.
calicat
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Sure do and its almost gone
.. IBL and incross I have seen used synonymously..I believe pure line is the actual synonym for ibl though. In theory it is suppose to because parental lines are uniform in growth and traits are genetically stable after multiple generations. I have seen some ibl's though act funky mostly afghan #1 ibls. And sometimes herijuana.
RockyMtnMan
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.Sure do and its almost gone
Thanks. I guess it is a lot like people. Your parents will pass on their genetic traits, and even though you will look similar to your siblings, most offspring will look slightly different even though they come from the same lineage. (seeds)
That explains the "clone only" pheno replication also and why when you find that one, the only way you will ever see it again, is by clone.
Thanks again, and by the way. Only 3 days cure in jars so far and that Boss looks and smells great. I can't wait till roll some up.
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Jogro
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I'm sort of "old school" and have the ability to do gender selection, so I prefer regs, if they're available.
In this particular case, with an IBL like herijuana, I'd strongly lean towards regs, because you can cross a male and female and then get a boatload of genetically consistent herijuana F1s, potentially keeping you in ceeds for years. And of course, you could cross a heri male with something else, if you wanted to. (Whether or not you "should" is another issue).
If you just want the smoke, have no ability/desire to do gender selection, can only grow out one plant at a time, or have zero interest in creating ceeds, it would be perfectly reasonable to get the feminized ceeds. I doubt you'd ever notice any difference in quality in the final product or along the way.
Jogro
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Yes, it is confusing.
I've already explained what an "inbred line" is above. The term is synonymous with "true breeding line", and analogous to a "purebred" animal (though not exactly the same).
Yes, a true inbred line should be "stable", meaning that if you crossed any two plants from an inbred line, the offspring should be similar to the parents.
An "incross" is a little different. That means you're crossing a plant to another one from the same lineage. If you do enough incrossing, you could create a stable line.
This is contrasted to an "outcross", which is crossing a plant to a totally different line to introduce new traits.
A chem-4 incross is either chem4 x chem4, or some offspring of chem4 crossed to some other offspring of chem4.
Let me explain further with a relevant example.
Lets say you have a bunch of Petrolia Headstash ceeds. These plants are all similar, and if you cross any two of them, you'll get more Petrolia Headstash plants. PH is an "inbred line".
Now lets say you want to create something different. So you cross your Petrolia Headstash with Killer New Haven (a different inbred line) to create a PH x NH F1 generation. This is an OUTCROSS. . .you're crossing your given line with something entirely unrelated with the idea of creating something new with the best traits of each parent.
Now, you want to refine this further, so you cross two of your F1s. . .this is now an "incross", you're crossing two plants of the same lineage.
If you do this sort of thing enough times, you'll generate an F2, F3, F4, F5, etc, and eventually with good selection, you'll create an entirely new inbred line, in this case herijuana.
Herijuana will have some traits from each of its two ancestors, PH and KNH, but it will breed "true" such that all herijuana plants will be similar and offspring of any two should be similar.
Hope that clarified things.
Sunbiz1
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I've run sannies reg heri beans twice in the last year or so, and found a second and rarer phenotype. The dominant trait in this strain is a chickory flavor, and a low yield. However, the second is on the fruitier side(guayaba comes to mind, a tree fruit native to the Caribbean)...but more importantly yields almost double. Unfortunately, I did not know this until well into flowering or I would have taken cuts.
Jogro
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Well, right now there are at least 3 different commercially available forms of herijuana out there that I'm aware of (and there may be more). Sannie has one, DaBean company has an F19(!), I think Motarebel and Woodhorse each offer one (or maybe they offer the same one. . .not sure). I seem to vaguely remember another breeder offering this (or maybe it was an F1 cross) and there is at least another called "medijuana", though I'm not really sure what the provenance of that line is.
Interestingly, of the first four, all of these legitimately do trace back to the original Steve Tuck line. While they are probably more similar than different, they're not all exactly the same because selections have diverged many generations back. Steve Tuck himself has said that he doesn't think many of the commercial versions are good representations of his line, since the flowering times are too long.
In contrast to that, Mota has said that the original "herijuana" actually wasn't stable when released, and he had to work it to get better consistency, so that could be a factor here. Other breeders have worked it a bit differently too. I don't think Sannie's version (which is an F2 coming from Motarebel's version) is 100% stable to the point where all plants grown from ceed are entirely uniform, though its pretty close, and probably "good enough" for functional purposes to call an IBL.
On Afghan #1, you'd think a 300+ year old Afghani inbred line "should" be stable by now, but with that one, there are also many different versions out, and they're probably not all the same thing. I think if you get a "good" version of it, its probably pretty stable.
calicat
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I would be curious to know how your purple pheno tastes and hits. Maybe when I finally crack my remaining boss hoggs I'll get blessed with a purple pheno. and btw yw
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