SlikWiLL13
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perhaps...i have never grown outdoors. i would if i could in my backyard like FDD but as thinks are its easier for me to grow indoors.
how did this turn into indoor vs. out? did i miss something?
Removing all leaves 1 week before buds are done???
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how did this turn into indoor vs. out? did i miss something?
CrackerJax
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I dunno
HIJACK!!! 
I know you know what you are doing, but rest assured growing outside is as easy as growing your lawn.Ahem... Don't trim your leaves until it's time to make HASH
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shouldn't the fan leaves start falling off on their own when your plants are reaching maturity? Why take off a leaf? It's fucking silly. The only place I'd take stuff off is at the bottom to direct the growth into the buds on top but that would have had to been done a couple weeks into flower.
CrackerJax
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Let the plant run its own course. imagine if you were running a race and every 5 minutes your mom came out onto the field and tied your shoelaces...
Leave me alone MOM!!!
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Leave me alone MOM!!!
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SlikWiLL13
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immigrants grow my lawn.....and cut it, and fertilize it
smokiedog
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outdoors it doesnt make sense to trim leaves because you most likely dont plant 10 plants an a 4x4 space. there is plenty of room for the the lower branches to grow up/out towards the sun. even if they only make it as far as the side of the plant they are still geting sun. when your packed tight in an indoor grow only the canopy gets good light. i think it makes sense to do some strategic cuts to increase yield...
has anybody trimmed thier plants too much and had them go hermie... i mean 1st hand experience, not speculation, or hearing about it or knows somebody. i thought herms were genetic, or from fugging with the lights, or extreme stress.
has anybody trimmed thier plants too much and had them go hermie... i mean 1st hand experience, not speculation, or hearing about it or knows somebody. i thought herms were genetic, or from fugging with the lights, or extreme stress.
SlikWiLL13
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extreme stress like having tons of leaves cut off? that kind of extreme stress?
what people fail to remember here is the the suns rays are the same strength 10' of the ground at the cola as it is on the lowest buds. hid lightings lumen loss is exponential the farther away you get. it doesnt matter it those buds 3' away from your light are in the shade or direct light, they will be thin and fluffy
wilsoncr17
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https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/179178-mystery-purple-stem-answered.html
Seriously this will increase yields. Everyone forgets why its called weed, it's gonna grow until you kill it.
Seriously this will increase yields. Everyone forgets why its called weed, it's gonna grow until you kill it.
CrackerJax
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Well I don't know your growing methodologies but i don't lose leaves when i flush. Now if you flush at the very end of the flowering (2 weeks before harvest), it doesn't matter anyways. I lose leaves at that point regardless, because that is the cycle of the plant. It's an annual and its life cycle is complete. If you wish to wound your plant and divert energy away from your buds...go ahead. Because that's exactly what happens to it. Just like you produce extra antibodies when you are wounded, so does any plant. Purple stems are usually an indication of a plant out of balance.
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smokiedog
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sun vs hid makes alot of sense.... in fact that is by far the best argument in this whole thread imo for why trimming isnt worth doing.extreme stress like having tons of leaves cut off? that kind of extreme stress?
what people fail to remember here is the the suns rays are the same strength 10' of the ground at the cola as it is on the lowest buds. hid lightings lumen loss is exponential the farther away you get. it doesnt matter it those buds 3' away from your light are in the shade or direct light, they will be thin and fluffy
but i'm not suggesting cutting "tons of leaves"
i just want to know if anybaody can say, "i trimmed my plant and it turned hermie"
i have seen plants that have been snapped in half (accidently) and made a comeback and didnt hermie. when you top a plant it doesnt hermie... when you take a shit load of cuttings from a mother for clones it doesnt hermie....
and the clones dont hermie...... i just dont see potential hermies as a valid reason not to trim. when you transplant root bound plants you score and cut the roots... no hermies. if trimming decreases yield or doesnt improve yield f or extends the grow cycle/stunts growth fine. but stress from selectively trimming resulting in hermies just doesnt make sense.
darkdestruction420
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thats true......but i still love working with my plants and thinking about them takes up alot of my day, u wouldnt be on this site if u didnt love growing and discussing growing and thinking about growing. at least thats why i love this site, i assume ur the sameYou've learned to enjoy the maintenance. It's a horrific time waster compared to outdoor grows. Hence my comment. 90% of the problems in these thread are all from indoor grows.....too much maintenance...too many mistakes to be made.
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CRYSTAL ICEMAN
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DONT DO IT !!!!! Thats crazy alright! not a good idea at all! Try training them when their younger, I tie the lower branches out to the edge of the pot with some contractor string from home depot. Be careful not to tie them too tight. I end up with a bush full of buds!!
CrackerJax
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thats true......but i still love working with my plants and thinking about them takes up alot of my day, u wouldnt be on this site if u didnt love growing and discussing growing and thinking about growing. at least thats why i love this site, i assume ur the same
I do love to grow, but I think there is a basic disconnect between indoor and outdoor growing, they are so different. One is laborious and steeped into the minutia while the other is more grow with the flow of the plant. I'm too laid back to babysit plants.
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darkdestruction420
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yeah true, sometimes when i dont know what to do or i get frustrated i think "why dont i just grow outdoors, it would be so much simpler to let mother nature just do its thing", in fact its spring so i been thinking of it its just i dont have anywhere i can grow, so until i figure that out im f*cked lolI do love to grow, but I think there is a basic disconnect between indoor and outdoor growing, they are so different. One is laborious and steeped into the minutia while the other is more grow with the flow of the plant. I'm too laid back to babysit plants.
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CrackerJax
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That is the main drag on outdoor growing...the rest is a breeze. Outdoor plants are happy plants.
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twointhecloset
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buds pull there energy from the leaves closest to them... so when you cut them off you cut off the energy for them
wilsoncr17
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urbangrower.com - Vol. 35 pruning.Well I don't know your growing methodologies but i don't lose leaves when i flush. Now if you flush at the very end of the flowering (2 weeks before harvest), it doesn't matter anyways. I lose leaves at that point regardless, because that is the cycle of the plant. It's an annual and its life cycle is complete. If you wish to wound your plant and divert energy away from your buds...go ahead. Because that's exactly what happens to it. Just like you produce extra antibodies when you are wounded, so does any plant. Purple stems are usually an indication of a plant out of balance.
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CrackerJax
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I'll stick with my many years of successful growing...don't WOUND your plants unless it is necessary, and as far as I have ever encountered ONLY leaf miners require a cut.
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