Rene's 2nd Grow. Here We Go. Mystery Bagseed and Breeding Experiment

mellokitty

mellokitty

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oh honey i have pulled that plug out of sheer desperation in the past myself. :hug:
i know what you mean about the "less-than-ideal demotivation" .... dealing with a bit of that *right *now in fact.... but we have no choice about it at the moment; we're at the "grit teeth and dig the fuck in" stage so that's what we're doing. and i'm hating it, of course. ;)

whatever you decide, the way i see it it's like flying a kite or riding a bicycle... when you want to again, it'll be there for you.
 
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Illumination

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dajosh42069 said:
I've actually found, that CFL (or normal flouro) and MH aren't all that different. In fact, CFL and flouro's in the proper temp (6500°K)* easier then you can get a MH bulb @ that temp. I've found that most standard MH grow bulbs (unless they are specialty, and those can run you up to 60 bux a bulb) are 5500°K, or 5000°K. Although, i've heard of MH bulbs in the 7000°K - 7500°K range. But i'm getting off topic. I'm running 17x 23 W CFL's, each putting out 1600 Lumens each. Giving me roughly 30,000 Lumens @ just over 400W's. Yes, with MH I could be getting an extra 5000 Lumens or so, but the temp isn't always as good as it is in flouro's and CFL's. Good luck rene, i'm keepin an eye.
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And that would be verses 38000 lumens for 400 watt mh advantage plus the penetration is almost nil with low wattage cfl's...not knocking them as I use to use cfl's for the whole grow...but the heat from 1 400 watt source even though hid has been much easier to control not to mention how much easier it is with only having to adjust only one bulb position... Also I cannot stress enough that a light mover is really an awesome low cost in energy addition that just about equates to doubling your lighting....but most make the mistake of increasing the coverage area of the light when adding a mover....sorry off on a ramble here but there's something good in there huh?

Namaste':leaf:
 
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NewClosetGrower

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fabfun said:
damn i cant find any perlite
home depots out
and walmart didnt have any on shelf so i wait 45 minutes for them to get it from the back so i grab 2 bags get to register and look at bag miracle gro brand with added plant food
fuck that i put it back and left empty handed
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Fab, i bought 15 bags of it when i started my garden. SAME SHIT dude...it doesnt feed jack shit TRUST me it works just fine...i use mg organic soil and mg perlite with food for all my plants. I actually started a thread the first time i bought it to ask for help..bunch of people told me it works fine, and sure as shit it does..how are you doing today anyway bro?
 
fabfun

fabfun

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oh really dont say
well i was really wanting no additives but if i cant find when nurseries open tomm i will have no choice but to use it

im good bro :bigjoint:

NewClosetGrower said:
Fab, i bought 15 bags of it when i started my garden. SAME SHIT dude...it doesnt feed jack shit TRUST me it works just fine...i use mg organic soil and mg perlite with food for all my plants. I actually started a thread the first time i bought it to ask for help..bunch of people told me it works fine, and sure as shit it does..how are you doing today anyway bro?
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rene112388

rene112388

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mellokitty said:
oh honey i have pulled that plug out of sheer desperation in the past myself. :hug:
i know what you mean about the "less-than-ideal demotivation" .... dealing with a bit of that *right *now in fact.... but we have no choice about it at the moment; we're at the "grit teeth and dig the fuck in" stage so that's what we're doing. and i'm hating it, of course. ;)

whatever you decide, the way i see it it's like flying a kite or riding a bicycle... when you want to again, it'll be there for you.
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Kitty I'm so glad you stopped by! Thank you so much your a sweetheart :hug: man I just been do the same as your for long time now the grow isn't the problem truly it is the easiest thing in my life but like I said I can't stand seeing them hurting! I'm sure I will keep pushing forward and try to keep the growing after all I'm trying new things :D about time I stop giving up!
 
rene112388

rene112388

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Wtf yall I just came in the house I had my pipe and now I can't fucking find it anywhere :wall: how do I lose this shit in less than a minute!!!! Fuck only way to smoke :(
 
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NewClosetGrower

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fabfun said:
oh really dont say
well i was really wanting no additives but if i cant find when nurseries open tomm i will have no choice but to use it

im good bro :bigjoint:
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good to hear your good broski.
that ham came out pretty descent, my father in law smoked it while i was fucking around with my truck. not sure what he used but it def wasnt the shit i left out for him haha.
all in all not bad...i found 1 or 2 quick clips of that cooking video i had i was telling you about i can show you if you want...just gotta figure out how to load them without using youtube
 
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NewClosetGrower

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rene112388 said:
Wtf yall I just came in the house I had my pipe and now I can't fucking find it anywhere :wall: how do I lose this shit in less than a minute!!!! Fuck only way to smoke :(
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grab an empty soda can, flatten a side of it, poke some holes in it with a fork on top...throw a nug on top and fire away, then go look for your bowl girly
 
rene112388

rene112388

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Lol ncg I don't have a can! Or aluminum foil to make a tp steam roller so when all else fails break out the knives ;) knife hits anyone :bigjoint:
 
dajosh42069

dajosh42069

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NewClosetGrower said:
im a big fan of CFL's...im also an even bigger fan of many small (23w) cfl's over the single big wattage cfl's. Ive always like it that way because like you said, you can pull a shit load of lumens. im not doubting you but i find it very hard to believe that 17 cfl's put off the same heat as a 400? mh..
my first grow was with 10 23w's and now i only use 7 and my temps are outta control. do you use an inline fan or something? my temps in my cab are ALWAYS atleast 10 degrees hotter then the rest of my house... not doubting you bro, just find it hard to believe
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You mis understood me, i'm not talking about TEMPATURES, I mean color temps. In the bulbs... ;-)



Illumination said:
And that would be verses 38000 lumens for 400 watt mh advantage plus the penetration is almost nil with low wattage cfl's...not knocking them as I use to use cfl's for the whole grow...but the heat from 1 400 watt source even though hid has been much easier to control not to mention how much easier it is with only having to adjust only one bulb position... Also I cannot stress enough that a light mover is really an awesome low cost in energy addition that just about equates to doubling your lighting....but most make the mistake of increasing the coverage area of the light when adding a mover....sorry off on a ramble here but there's something good in there huh?

Namaste':leaf:
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When you put them ALL right above, your right. But i'm talking about near complete coverage. In my grow journal you can see in the vids. It's STUPID complex and a terrible way to grow, but i've got cfl's surrounding my plants. They get amazing coverage like that. And many MH bulbs differ. The 38,000 lumen bulb is how much? Cause a 23W CFL is $2 @ lowes. And the difference in heat is like night and day.
 
dajosh42069

dajosh42069

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NewClosetGrower said:
sorry for the continuous posting dude but ive been meaning to ask you guys for a while now...Do any of you guys watch any YouTube growers?
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I've just stared posting video's myself. I won't post them here, as it isn't my grow, but if your interested, the link in my sig should take you to them.
 
rene112388

rene112388

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Ncg no worries man yall know you are free to post away! And I don't really use youtube less I want some different music...
 
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Illumination

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dajosh42069 said:
You mis understood me, i'm not talking about TEMPATURES, I mean color temps. In the bulbs... ;-)








When you put them ALL right above, your right. But i'm talking about near complete coverage. In my grow journal you can see in the vids. It's STUPID complex and a terrible way to grow, but i've got cfl's surrounding my plants. They get amazing coverage like that. And many MH bulbs differ. The 38,000 lumen bulb is how much? Cause a 23W CFL is $2 @ lowes.
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Was just relaying that I did the all cfl grow thing and had 16 x 23 watt plus 4 x 42 watts all around 2 plants ....and what I paid for all those bulbs and light fixtures I could have bought a 1000 watt setup for....lol....I have switched to a 400 watt on a light mover with remote ballast and the heat is much easier to control...I run a cmh bulb...here's some info:

No digis except for one truly expensive unit by GE

here's a great deal on a mag coil setup...is what I have and I love it


http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-HTG...Grow-Light.asp

Bulbs:

https://www.lightingsupply.com/CDM40...R-4K-ALTO.aspx

Bulbs and info:

http://advancedtechlighting.com/cmhfact3.htm

More cmh info than you could need...lol:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=72215

There are vertical versions as well as horizontal: there are also some out for regular metal halide ballasts

Also you do not want to use them in sealed hoods or cool tubes as the glass will block the uvb produced which we truly want for potency accentuation

look at the link in my sig


Hope it helps and I love my cmh setup

Namaste':peace:

ps- this was put up by me for you rene as well as anyone else interested....one love
 
goten

goten

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Sorry but 100+ pages is to much for me to read lol

i looked at your pics in your first post ,

looking good , nice lst job

you have any recent pics or do i need to go back a few pages lol
 
rene112388

rene112388

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Lmao thanks gotten go back a few pages! There is a run down of the grow and pics that lime posted from previous posts I can't post from my phone.. And thanks lumi but I haven't even looked into it because I can't afford a thing atm and I will just pout if I want it! lol
 
SlimJim503

SlimJim503

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Happy Easter everyone!!!! So is there s meeting or something tonight i got a PM saying something about after Easter dinner? I working on getting herb so dont start the session without me:-)
 
dajosh42069

dajosh42069

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Illumination said:
Was just relaying that I did the all cfl grow thing and had 16 x 23 watt plus 4 x 42 watts all around 2 plants ....and what I paid for all those bulbs and light fixtures I could have bought a 1000 watt setup for....lol....I have switched to a 400 watt on a light mover with remote ballast and the heat is much easier to control...I run a cmh bulb...here's some info:

No digis except for one truly expensive unit by GE

here's a great deal on a mag coil setup...is what I have and I love it


http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-HTG...Grow-Light.asp

Bulbs:

https://www.lightingsupply.com/CDM40...R-4K-ALTO.aspx

Bulbs and info:

http://advancedtechlighting.com/cmhfact3.htm

More cmh info than you could need...lol:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=72215

There are vertical versions as well as horizontal: there are also some out for regular metal halide ballasts

Also you do not want to use them in sealed hoods or cool tubes as the glass will block the uvb produced which we truly want for potency accentuation

look at the link in my sig


Hope it helps and I love my cmh setup

Namaste':peace:

ps- this was put up by me for you rene as well as anyone else interested....one love
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Yup have all those links myself. And almost got my HPS from them, but after shipping and so on, I found it would be cheaper to just buy it all from a local hydro shop. Or maybe like 20 bux more. And thats for a digi ballast. And I didn't buy a bunch of fixtures for all my CFL's, I actually use old lamps scavenged from all over and gutted them, and plugs and cords from my christmas light supplies that I bought a year or 2 ago. The only thing I purchased was the 4 hoods, and a couple of Y splitters and plug to bulb socket adapters. Maybe 40 bux. And the bulbs, @ another 40. Lets throw in another 20 bux, in case I low balled anything, and we'll say roughly 100 bucks for 31,300 Lumens.
I'm not saying it's the BEST option, or even superior to MH, I'm simply saying that it gets better coverage as you can position them on ALL sides of the plant(s).
 
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