Republican crime wave

UncleBuck

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
SisGenderShrimp said:
Yup it
Was a compromise
3/5 of the slave population would be counted for a states representation.


The only two things that I take more of libertarian stance is legalization of weed and gay marriage. I lean conservative on most other issues and I believe in the fundamentals of conservatism. Small government, mostly free market economy with only necessary regulation. I hate the Gov and I want it to stay out of my life just as much as humanly possible.
Click to expand...
God what an annoying sock
 
SisGenderShrimp

SisGenderShrimp

Active Member
Fogdog said:
We have yet another person who just makes up their own meanings for a word. If you want to say you are a conservative libertarian then it might behoove you to learn what that means.

OK, so you don't like regulations. What market regulations don't you
Click to expand...



What word did I misinterpret?
First of all I don't like tariffs, and I do not like socialised healthcare, the only regulation that I think is acceptable in a free market is Gov making sure no monopolies are formed, protecting the environment, and taxes. The gov also has to fill in for goods and services such as a military, making roads, and public schools.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
SisGenderShrimp

SisGenderShrimp

Active Member
UncleBuck said:
God what an annoying sock
Click to expand...
I'm just Hispanic guy who is racist against Mexicans, gays, muslims, and trans.
Remember?
All of you need to get outside, there are millions of Hispanic conservatives. Just because someone is Hispanic or black doesn't mean they are liberals. For example a good portion of Cubans that have fleed Cuba lean conservative.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
SisGenderShrimp said:
I'm just Hispanic guy who is racist against Mexicans, gays, muslims, and trans.
Remember?
All of you need to get outside, there are millions of Hispanic conservatives. Just because someone is Hispanic or black doesn't mean they are liberals. For example a good portion of Cubans that have fleed Cuba lean conservative.
Click to expand...
How many whites have you raped ?
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
SisGenderShrimp said:
First of all I don't like tariffs, and I do not like socialised healthcare, the only regulation that I think is acceptable in a free market is Gov making sure no monopolies are formed, protecting the environment, and taxes. The gov also has to fill in for goods and services such as a military, making roads, and public schools.
Click to expand...
Typical of most who say they are conservative libertarians, you don't know what that means. But that's not a big deal. Like most who say they are conservative libertarians, you are just conservative. Also typical of conservatives, you want low taxes but only support spending cuts for services that other people use. You want small government but only in limited areas that, again, you don't use.

Now that that's settled, lets talk about some of the issues:

The free market is failing to provide good value for health care services. Most other developed western countries have better health care at about half the cost in the US. Same goes for prescription drugs, which can cost a hundred times more than other countries where the government negotiates prices and pays for the prescriptions as part of their universal healthcare. In light of these facts, do you still favor the US system where we are less well at many times higher costs?

You said you prefer Trump who is implementing tariffs and initiating a trade war with practically the whole world. His GOP backs him. How does this square with you being conservative yet supporting Trump?

It's naive to say that Republicans are just as bad as Democrats. Not if you really believe that government should provide good education and maintain the transportation infrastructure (i.e., "roads") of the country. Republicans are trying to privatize both.
 
SisGenderShrimp

SisGenderShrimp

Active Member
Fogdog said:
Typical of most who say they are conservative libertarians, you don't know what that means. But that's not a big deal. Like most conservative libertarians, you are just conservative, not libertarian conservative. Also typical of conservatives, you want low taxes but only support spending cuts for services that other people use. You want small government but only in limited areas that, again, you don't use.

Now that that's settled, lets talk about some of the issues:

The free market is failing to provide good value for health care services. Most other developed western countries have better health care at about half the cost in the US. Same goes for prescription drugs, which can cost a hundred times more than other countries where the government negotiates prices and pays for the prescriptions as part of their universal healthcare. In light of these facts, do you still favor the US system where we are less well at many times higher costs?

You said you prefer Trump who is implementing tariffs and initiating a trade war with practically the whole world. His GOP backs him. How does this square with you being conservative yet supporting Trump?

It's naive to say that Republicans are just as bad as Democrats. Not if you really believe that government should provide good education and maintain the transportation infrastructure (i.e., "roads") of the country. Republicans are trying to privatize both.
Click to expand...
Conservatives are usually not pro pot or gay marriage. I thought libertarian had one meaning that meant free will but I can be wrong. Can you mention the top 5 countries which have best implemented universal healthcare?
I do think that Democrats and Republicans both suck for not only economical reasons but also moral, but that is another long subject.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
SisGenderShrimp said:
Conservatives are usually not pro pot or gay marriage. I thought libertarian had one meaning that meant free will but I can be wrong. Can you mention the top 5 countries which have best implemented universal healthcare?
I do think that Democrats and Republicans both suck for not only economical reasons but also moral, but that is another long subject.
Click to expand...
Shut up rapist
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
SisGenderShrimp said:
Conservatives are usually not pro pot or gay marriage. I thought libertarian had one meaning that meant free will but I can be wrong. Can you mention the top 5 countries which have best implemented universal healthcare?
I do think that Democrats and Republicans both suck for not only economical reasons but also moral, but that is another long subject.
Click to expand...
Every one of the countries in the top ten with best health care systems are government provided, single payer systems.



You can read up about the history and meaning of libertarian beginning here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism

American style libertarian "research institute" is the Von Mises Institute: https://mises.org/

Personally, I think the Von Mises institute is a fraud. If you want to understand better what is generally understood to mean by "libertarianism" those two sites should give you a better understanding than somebody who thinks its nonsense like me.

If you say you are conservative then learn more. There are social conservatives, fiscal conservatives, moderate conservatives and radical right wingers who pick and choose whatever they want. Given that I disagree with them, you probably ought to look elsewhere for information.

Why did you say you liked Trump's policies?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top