Rescuing found sick, stretched, seedlings, relocate indoors, re-veg

This journal is the story of my attempt to rescue and clone two unknown genetics, young plants that I found growing outdoors obviously receiving little to no care.

What we know so far:
Age: 2-3wks from seed
Stage: Veg
Sex: Female
Type: Predominantly Sativa or 50/50
Genetics: Unknown (poss. Chemdawg)

Okay, So about a month back a friend asked me to be his roommate to help with expenses. After moving in, while exploring our land one day I discovered a bunch of cannabis seedlings desperately in need of some attention. At some point there appeared to be like 20+ growing in just these two pots. They'd all completely died except for two. Amused with finding them, I observed their condition an concluded the living two could possibly be worth trying to restore stable health to and maybe later take clones from.

Update:
Age: est. 4wks from seed
Stage: Veg
Sex: Female
Type: Predominantly Sativa or 50/50
Genetics: Unknown (poss. Chemdawg)

The first step to saving these guys was to clean up their soil, removing all the dead stems and other random plant material trying not to disturb root positioning. Then I gently loosened the soil to remove one of the plants and prepare it for repotting, 1 plant per pot. Before transplanting, I added a extremely small amount of Miracle Gro shake 'n feed all purpose plant food, minus the green miracle gro chemical beads, I removed them all to reduce shock/neut. burn. MG NPK= 12-4-8 maybe 1/2 tsp per pot.
After thoroughly fluffing medium for better root development and mixing in MG neuts, I transplanted, I sprinkle watered them with a dilute Superthrive solution in attempt to not recompress the medium. The Superthrive bottle suggests 1drop per cup of water so I used 1drp per 2cups. I use superthrive for it's effective anti stress properties and it's high nitrogen content. Nitrogen greatly boosts root development as well as foliage. Nitrogen encourages vegetation so it will supplement the swap from the beginning stages of flower back to re-veg and help fight off the shock & stress that entering re-veg inflicts on growth.
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Update:
Age: est. 4wks from seed
Stage: preflower
Sex: Female
Type: Predominantly Sativa or 50/50
Genetics: Unknown (poss. Chemdawg)

Three days after transplanting I begin to recognize heavy female pre-flowers. This is obviously not good. I'm glad to see they're feminized but it also means they'll start trying to bud soon. Which is exactly what I expected, it being late August. They need way more vegetative development first or the yield will be garbage.
My first plan is to relocate the plants. Still outdoors in direct sunlight while suns out but also directly under a 1200w cool white LED light that comes on soon as it starts getting dark extending the daylight hours. Cool white bulbs contain high blue wavelength contents which focuses on vegetative growth.
After three or four days of that the plant shows no sign of re-entering veg but has developed a pungent skunk odor already. In hopes of harvesting some gas, I know what I have to do..
Relocate indoors and issue 24/0 light cycle.

Update:
Age: 5wks from seed
Stage: Preflower
Sex: Female
Type: Predominantly Sativa or 50/50
Genetics: Unknown (poss. Chemdawg)

As mentioned above, I was forced to move indoors which I prefer but wasn't prepared for.

Just as I've done in the past, I converted my closet to a grow room. Luckly I had practically everything needed for my grow room preparation and set up already. I actually haven't even had to spend any money yet. I mean the current setup is a little sloppy due to such quick assembly, but it's only 1 week in and we have made good progress already↓

Update:
Age: 5wks from seed
Stage: Re-veg
Sex: Female
Type: Predominantly Sativa or 50/50
Genetics: Unknown (poss. Chemdawg)


Looks like they are finally starting to re-veg and are explosively producing foliage.. but what is all this other stuff going on? Refer to images.

To me No. 1 seems over-watered. For second, wait a little bit. For second, you might be having a nute issue. New growth seems to start going yellow as wel not only the old growth dying off.

Might still have nutes from whatever the soil was. But yes. They are revegging. Give them at least one month to bulk up a bit. Then switch to bloom.

If any of the leaves were damaged before. Don't worry if those continue to die off. The plant probably decided to discard those.

The real issue is any further changes in color or form of new growth.

They'll start with just the one leaf. Then start making some with three and five and possibly up to 13 bladed leafs. Generally they're back to normal at 5-7 bladed leaves.

Rohi said:

To me No. 1 seems over-watered. For second, wait a little bit. For second, you might be having a nute issue. New growth seems to start going yellow as wel not only the old growth dying off.

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I also thought they looked like they may have been slightly over watered. I think nute issues are highly likely. Thanks man

Nugachino said:

Might still have nutes from whatever the soil was. But yes. They are revegging. Give them at least one month to bulk up a bit. Then switch to bloom.

If any of the leaves were damaged before. Don't worry if those continue to die off. The plant probably decided to discard those.

The real issue is any further changes in color or form of new growth.

They'll start with just the one leaf. Then start making some with three and five and possibly up to 13 bladed leafs. Generally they're back to normal at 5-7 bladed leaves.

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Awesome. I assumed since revegging that was probably why the single leaf growth had started over. Just like it would have had it just started life. But yes I definitely af going to give them a while in a solid 24/0 light cycle. Probably more than a month because I'll need to let my clones reach acceptable budding size as well.

Update:
Age: 5wks from seed
Stage: veg
Sex: Female
Type: Predominantly Sativa or 50/50
Genetics: Unknown (poss. Chemdawg)

Not much changing over the past few days sense last update. They are both still showing solid re-veg growth. It looks really weird, haha. They resemble small palm trees right now. I plan to take some clones soon though now that they are growing pretty well. I may top them at some point also. Maybe give me your thoughts on topping and if you think it would be good for my particular plants.
I'll be back with another update and new photos soon.

Update:
Age: 6 wks from seed
Stage: veg
Sex: Female
Type: Predominantly Sativa or 50/50
Genetics: Unknown (poss. Chemdawg)

Got some yellowing in the foliage and purple streaks coming up on the stems sense last water. I only used pure tap water that I let set out over 24hr. They seem to be growing fine though. They are even getting past their leave deformities from revegging.

Just did a small amount of pruning and am getting ready to take my clones. Ill post pictures of them all afterwards.

Nice to see it healthy!

Update:
Age: 8wks from seed
Stage: veg
Sex: Female
Type: Predominantly Sativa or 50/50
Genetics: Unknown (poss. Chemdawg)

I've decided against taking clones off these plants.

Here are some new pictures though. I have to say. I'm surprised at how rejuvenate they have been. They have made huge progress sense I found them.

By the way, what do you guys think of my setup? Do you think this is enough light for these two small plants? All together I should have about 6,525 lumens being produced in there.
•5-825 lumen CFL's
•2-1,200 lumen 4ft t12's

I plan to also flower with CFL's too despite how badly I want a HPS set up.. I think that's going to be something I invest in for the next grow.

Terpenedave said:

By the way, what do you guys think of my setup? Do you think this is enough light for these two small plants? All together I should have about 6,525 lumens being produced in there.
•5-825 lumen CFL's
•2-1,200 lumen 4ft t12's

I plan to also flower with CFL's too despite how badly I want a HPS set up.. I think that's going to be something I invest in for the next grow.

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Personally, you are lacking ALOT of light in there so i wouldn't wait too long to flip however, its your grow so if you plan to flower them like that then just have fun & good luck.


A decent amount of cfl light would be something like 80-100 actual watts for every square foot.

SPLFreak808 said:

Personally, you are lacking ALOT of light in there so i wouldn't wait too long to flip however, its your grow so if you plan to flower them like that then just have fun & good luck.


A decent amount of cfl light would be something like 80-100 actual watts for every square foot.

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Each of the 5 CFL's are 85W/825L and the closet is only 2'deep and 4'wide. Plus the two 1,200L fluorescent t12 tubes up top.
I plan on getting at least 4 to 6 more CFLs in there in the next week or so.

Terpenedave said:

Each of the 5 CFL's are 85W/825L and the closet is only 2'deep and 4'wide. Plus the two 1,200L fluorescent t12 tubes up top.
I plan on getting at least 4 to 6 more CFLs in there in the next week or so.

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An 825 lumen cfl bulb is somewhere around 12-15 watts, go by the "actual" wattage not the equivalent listed on the box.

They are inefficient and get pretty hot once you start adding them up.

I've been pointing cfl growers to led bulbs lately, less heat and more yield. If you really do end up buying more light bulbs then this is a good place to start

https://www.amazon.com/Philips-Equivalent-White-Dimmable-Medium/dp/B01HC7BHRS


That 8 pack alone adds up to something like 12,000lm while only using 115w

SPLFreak808 said:

An 825 lumen cfl bulb is somewhere around 12-15 watts, go by the "actual" wattage not the equivalent listed on the box.

They are inefficient and get pretty hot once you start adding them up.

I've been pointing cfl growers to led bulbs lately, less heat and more yield. If you really do end up buying more light bulbs then this is a good place to start

https://www.amazon.com/Philips-Equivalent-White-Dimmable-Medium/dp/B01HC7BHRS


That 8 pack alone adds up to something like 12,000lm while only using 115w

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I've been wondering about those. I honestly have like zero dollars in this grow. Everything I'm using came from around the house. But I seen some LED's that looked just like those at Walmart. They were like $17 each but the box said something like 1000+ lumen.
So your saying I'd get a better yield with those?

Terpenedave said:

I've been wondering about those. I honestly have like zero dollars in this grow. Everything I'm using came from around the house. But I seen some LED's that looked just like those at Walmart. They were like $17 each but the box said something like 1000+ lumen.
So your saying I'd get a better yield with those?

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if you buy the right ones yes, i listed the 100w equiv phillips 8 pack which is literally double the light at the same wattage as those 825lumen cfls.