Review of the montana biotech at home testing kit for thc cbd cbg ...

GreenSanta

GreenSanta

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I am surprised at how little interest people are showing towards those test kits. I couldnt find any reviews on the internet, its like nobody is using them! I wish more people were using them Id love to see more TLC snapshots from the community.... anyway, for a first trial I still learned that I should keep my cutting of Respect around, she had the most cannabinoids
 
Brokeoldbloke

Brokeoldbloke

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GS, I'm interested in being able test for CBD at home and thanks for doing a review!

Doesn't really seem like it is ready for prime time yet though.

I may have missed it but not sure what a kit costs or how many samples a kit a can do. For me to use that kit I'd need to test multiple strains and multiple samples of each strain to get some sort of reliable idea on if I'm doing it right. Plus it would be critical that the same precise amounts and procedures were used for each same sample. Ideally I'd also need to get a lab tested sample with a known value of one each of a high THC and a high CBD strain from the pot shop to compare the indications.

IMO it isn't just a buy it, use it and it get results kit. It would take multiple times testing to develop a "eye" for the results given.
 
GreenSanta

GreenSanta

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Brokeoldbloke said:
GS, I'm interested in being able test for CBD at home and thanks for doing a review!

Doesn't really seem like it is ready for prime time yet though.

I may have missed it but not sure what a kit costs or how many samples a kit a can do. For me to use that kit I'd need to test multiple strains and multiple samples of each strain to get some sort of reliable idea on if I'm doing it right. Plus it would be critical that the same precise amounts and procedures were used for each same sample. Ideally I'd also need to get a lab tested sample with a known value of one each of a high THC and a high CBD strain from the pot shop to compare the indications.

IMO it isn't just a buy it, use it and it get results kit. It would take multiple times testing to develop a "eye" for the results given.
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indeed its a long term thing ...you can test 5 samples per plates and 4 plates per kits, once you have the kit you can buy everything separately. If you read the full review (post #427 on my thread) you will see that I had a few mishapps that will certainly be fixed on my next round. I tested 5 strains and 3 of them were on 2 different plates to compare results and they all came out very similar so it tells me the results were somewhat accurate. This technique is the same used by dispensaries and has been used since the 60s. The kits won't be getting any better for a while but you will at using them.
 
Brokeoldbloke

Brokeoldbloke

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Yeah you'll need to stick with it! I still think having a known control will help greatly. You need something with a quantitative value to compare. Montana uses one in their pictures and says draw your own conclusions based on it.

Not sure what lab testing costs but it may help to set your base line on a promising strain.

Good Luck!
 
GreenSanta

GreenSanta

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Brokeoldbloke said:
Yeah you'll need to stick with it! I still think having a known control will help greatly. You need something with a quantitative value to compare. Montana uses one in their pictures and says draw your own conclusions based on it.

Not sure what lab testing costs but it may help to set your base line on a promising strain.

Good Luck!
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overtime I will keep testing my keepers and will get to know them. I have a cross I made with my respect too Chemo X Respect and a few of them are vegging right now and they are sexed, I cant wait to test those!! Anyway, the kit is 100$ and I think with shipping and tax to Canada it was around 150$. For the hobby grower its a small price to pay for allowing so much testing compare to what a lab would charge for the same tests... except each time you might have someone else running the test for you, when you do it yourself you know you always do the same thing and it becomes more accurate overtime.

In Canada, we dont have any labs that I know of yet so home testing is really the only option anyway!

Thanks for your inputs!
 
Brokeoldbloke

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There are at least labs locally here. I couldn't find much on price but they seem to use either Gas or High Pressure Liquid Chromatography to test. Sounds quite a bit different to TLC but weird it is not even an option for you. It is big marketing for the pot shops here to say this or that strain has XX% THC or XX% CBD.
 
GreenSanta

GreenSanta

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Brokeoldbloke said:
There are at least labs locally here. I couldn't find much on price but they seem to use either Gas or High Pressure Liquid Chromatography to test. Sounds quite a bit different to TLC but weird it is not even an option for you. It is big marketing for the pot shops here to say this or that strain has XX% THC or XX% CBD.
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when you said Gas I think its the same thing as TLC, TLC stands for thin layer chromatography. I was told lots of dispensaries use thin layer chromatography for their testing.
 
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CharlieR

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GreenSanta said:
when you said Gas I think its the same thing as TLC, TLC stands for thin layer chromatography. I was told lots of dispensaries use thin layer chromatography for their testing.
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Hi Green Santa,
I too, am in Canada, and am looking for a way to test for Cannabinoids for my FB group of patients and others. I've been trying to find home test kits, because to use a lab you are looking at $90 minimum for a lab test, and to be allowed to do it, you have to be a currently licensed Medical Cannabis patient authorized to produce meds or a commercial LP. Sucks. PM me, I would like to friend you on FB and add you to my group.
 
sensimilla86

sensimilla86

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i have read about them and think that they are pretty cool i dotn really have the variety of strains going at once maybe 2 or 3 at most to really see the full potential of the kit but i do think it would be worth while to know what your harvesting and smoking may be something i would look into on the next harvest
 
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mcgrh

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Just wanted to say thanks for posting this review. I recently bought a similar kit from cannalytics and I was disappointed. Not because their stuff was crap, but because there are a few things pointed out that I hadn't realized and the manual never explained.

Refilling for my next round of tests will cost me as much as buying a kit from Montana biotech, so I'll be buying a brand new kit from Montana instead of the refill from cannalytics.
 
Cons7

Cons7

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Hey GS,

I'm lookin into buying some of these, the site I was looking at has some odd things with their site that honestly just toss up red flags in my mind. This kit doesn't seem to test for THCV though, is that correct?

Another thing I was curious about, because you appear to grow with LED's as well, have you tested same genetic plants, grown the same (side by side clone/veg/flower/harvest/dry/cure/test) under different lights? If so, did you find there were any differences between the plants; eg, cannabinoid ratios and/or overall CBD/THC/CBN levels?
 
sunny747

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I have a very reliable testing process that I will perform for any of you free of charge. I will need rather large samples. PM me for my address :)
 
Cons7

Cons7

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Forgot to ask this as well, when you use the test kit, do you just use your final cure product or do you dry it out more then you usually would for a finish cure? Reason I ask this is because when it's sent into a lab (at least with some tests, IDK the fine details about them all or how they work at a chemical level) if you dry it out more then usual, you will get back higher results do to the lower moisture content. This may sound like "cheating" the test, but IMO it would provide more accurate results over time. It would be easier to just dry the weed out to the same dryness, then to make sure the same amount of moisture is retained throughout different cures and strains.

Just wondering if you had experimented with that at all.
 
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