Rob Porter..

abandonconflict said:
You still don't get it.

It's ok though, tell us more about consent and how black people buying stuff is the same as rape.
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I get that you are afraid to offer your definition of consent and to examine the self evident contradiction of "Anarcho Communism" which disallows self governance and imposes a hierarchy of some people over other people.

I get that you believe forcing a human association when one party would prefer not to is somehow acceptable, while at the same time you would be opposed to rape, which uses the exact same means as the first example. (I just called you a hypocrite in case you were wondering)

I also get that you are a smart guy, who doesn't like it when his contradictions are laid bare and that you have a lousy beard.
 
Rob Roy said:
I get that you are afraid to offer your definition of consent and to examine the self evident contradiction of "Anarcho Communism"
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I am certain you have never read a single book written by an anarchist. Maybe capitalists, but capitalism is (as I have explained multiple times, thoroughly destroying your world view) mutually exclusive with anarchism. Privatization is only possible through gov't. Anarchism in the economic sense, is the notion that the earth is not property. In your world view, the earth, which is the common heritage of mankind is a thing to be held, by threat of violence and bequeathed unto one's progeny. This is borne out in the real world as violence. The land that the gov't has awarded exclusive deed to you, was taken from its original inhabitants by way of genocide.

Now you're angry because you have to see black people near it so you make these arguments about "forced association" and your "right" to be a separatist. Now you are angry because the gov't which made it possible for you to have private property says that it is illegal to copulate with children. Now you're mad because the taxes which you agreed to pay are used to support disabled veterans.

Now come back with stupid arguments about how I collected veteran's disability until a couple years ago. Give me some stupid hypothetical (because reality doesn't jive with your oxymoronic philosophy) story about a caveman owning bone tools. Whatever you do, don't make me fucking win this debate again. It's boring.
 
abandonconflict said:
I am certain you have never read a single book written by an anarchist. Maybe capitalists, but capitalism is (as I have explained multiple times, thoroughly destroying your world view) mutually exclusive with anarchism. Privatization is only possible through gov't. Anarchism in the economic sense, is the notion that the earth is not property. In your world view, the earth, which is the common heritage of mankind is a thing to be held, by threat of violence and bequeathed unto one's progeny. This is borne out in the real world as violence. The land that the gov't has awarded exclusive deed to you, was taken from its original inhabitants by way of genocide.

Now you're angry because you have to see black people near it so you make these arguments about "forced association" and your "right" to be a separatist. Now you are angry because the gov't which made it possible for you to have private property says that it is illegal to copulate with children. Now you're mad because the taxes which you agreed to pay are used to support disabled veterans.

Now come back with stupid arguments about how I collected veteran's disability until a couple years ago. Give me some stupid hypothetical (because reality doesn't jive with your oxymoronic philosophy) story about a caveman owning bone tools. Whatever you do, don't make me fucking win this debate again. It's boring.
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Thank you for attempting to present an argument, although it would be better if you made YOUR argument rather than trying to make an argument which you claim is my argument. It's a failing you ought to consider correcting if you ever hope to find truth.

The first paragraph isn't bad and worthy of discussion some time. Although you state it as if you think it's some great secret that you are letting me in on and I have never considered any of that.


The second paragraph is not a very good one though, since it is you attempting to discredit me, by conflating my view. Honestly you could do better than to strawman my argument, or maybe you can't?

I think racism is stupid. I don't like adults who prey on kids. I never agreed to pay taxes. I believe other people aren't my property, your view seems in conflict with that, since you seem okay with forcing a person of any color to associate with somebody they'd prefer not to.


Winning? Poppycock!
I can't possibly see how you could win a debate if every time a question is asked of you, you either ignore it or present the head of the strawman you've decapitated as evidence that you are winning.

As far as you accepting money from the government, we both know that kind of money is a symptom of something rather than a cause, or at least I hope you know that.
 
abandonconflict said:
I am certain you have never read a single book written by an anarchist. Maybe capitalists, but capitalism is (as I have explained multiple times, thoroughly destroying your world view) mutually exclusive with anarchism. Privatization is only possible through gov't. Anarchism in the economic sense, is the notion that the earth is not property. In your world view, the earth, which is the common heritage of mankind is a thing to be held, by threat of violence and bequeathed unto one's progeny. This is borne out in the real world as violence. The land that the gov't has awarded exclusive deed to you, was taken from its original inhabitants by way of genocide.

Now you're angry because you have to see black people near it so you make these arguments about "forced association" and your "right" to be a separatist. Now you are angry because the gov't which made it possible for you to have private property says that it is illegal to copulate with children. Now you're mad because the taxes which you agreed to pay are used to support disabled veterans.

Now come back with stupid arguments about how I collected veteran's disability until a couple years ago. Give me some stupid hypothetical (because reality doesn't jive with your oxymoronic philosophy) story about a caveman owning bone tools. Whatever you do, don't make me fucking win this debate again. It's boring.
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nothing is exclusive with eminent domain.
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abandonconflict said:
Real men know that children do not have the wherewithal to consent.
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About when would you say that a person ceases being a child and would you say that all people arrive at that threshold at the same exact chronological age ? (I'm humoring you now, since you've decided not to face your inherent Anarcho Contradicto stance where it's okay to use offensive force to prevent the use of force ...snicker)
 
abandonconflict said:
So everything you know about anarchism, you learned from me. That's why I know more about that AND your stated "philosophy" than you do.

Protip: children lack the wherewithal to consent.
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Protip: An insult is not an argument.

It seems like when your arguments fail or you cannot address my questions, you are stuck on conflation or base insinuations designed to undermine the person rather than rebut an idea. I'm not a pedo nor do I respect them.

Also, I generally agree with you that children lack the wherewithal to consent. I'm also uncomfortable with mismatched aged couples, maybe due to a learned cultural bias. So that begs the question, what is a child and what is consent ? Would you say that there is a magical age wherein everybody ceases being a child and that age is the same for everyone ?

Also, why did you stop taking government money if you are okay with it?
 
Rob Roy said:
Protip: An insult is not an argument.

It seems like when your arguments fail or you cannot address my questions
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Other way around. At the conclusion of my argument, to which you have not responded sufficiently and which has already been prevalent, I asked that you come with something new. The insults are just for my enjoyment. Your little emotional appeal even demonstrated that you didn't grasp it.

You're boring and not as smart as you think. In fact, your "philosophy" was designed by the very corporatists you claim to oppose, and it was designed to appeal to stupid people. Have fun getting 'likes' from Schuylaar.
 
Rob Roy said:
Thank you for attempting to present an argument, although it would be better if you made YOUR argument rather than trying to make an argument which you claim is my argument.
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This crap. So now you're opposed to privatization? You're incoherent. You literally repeat communism several times and then say I am getting your stance wrong? You are terrible at this. You really have never read anything worth while. You can't even meme. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and took you off of ignore, thinking you could present a worthwhile thought. You deserve every insult directed your way. You offer absolutely nothing to a discussion about ideas or realpolitik. You are a waste of time. When I said you were consistent, it wasn't a compliment.
Rob Roy said:
About when would you say that a person ceases being a child
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You have stated before that you think a 13 year old can consent. You refuse repeatedly to answer this directly, hence so many people calling you a pedo.
 
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