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RoninAmok

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By the way there IS something that I DO agree with Ron Paul on , the current incarnation and fiefdom in D.C. is setting the stage for MASSIVE civil unrest , with all the attendant negative results........perhaps with the military utilised against civilians. However there are other factors to consider , there are those who are current and former who ***WILL NOT*** enforce unconstitutional and unlawful orders against the civilian populace.

And entire population of folks that were created by the govt. And be they right or wrong it seems that movements of that like are popping up all over , but then Frankenstein didn't fear his own monster initially..........


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Moses Mobetta

Moses Mobetta

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Wordz said:
hell we've been training the military on door to door urban combat for the last 10 years.
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Yeah we were trained heavily in urban warfare tachniques when I was on active duty . The concept made me uncomfortable . I believe that a lot of our troops would follow orders to fight our citizens . Sad and scary . I hope that never happens but if things keep on the way they are it is more likely than not .
 
Farfenugen

Farfenugen

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And as far as urban warfare, though these soldiers may be trained in this sort of combat, I highly doubt this would entail kicking down the doors of mom and pop America, dragging them away to detention camps, like the Nazi scum did. Way too many common sense folk with the power to know right from wrong, good from bad, even these elite soldiers know that genocide is wrong (murdering civilians is pure evil) even though a few rotten apples have done just this, albeit in the middle east. And I think that in all likelihood that there's an even greater number of true Americans in government that know right from wrong/good from bad etc.

America was created to get away from tyranny. Where is the saving grace? If all this stuff was true, and I don't think it is, I would sure hope and pray that the sun spits out a few shining rays to down the power grids of this planet, no one would be able to hold any sort of power.

Perhaps that's what this is all about. They know Nibiru is coming, dragging along with it a billion or so meteorites from the belt, underground bases to hide in, us to fend for ourselves, they emerge a few years later to restart the race once more.

Or perhaps, the only real thing that we have to look forward to is nothing but the same sort of crap that's been going on for centuries, fear of the future, fear of the unknown, all based on this egocentric trust in the new religion - technology.

Revolsolution = a smart solution to a chaotic revolution
 
Moses Mobetta

Moses Mobetta

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Farfenugen said:
I recall about 20 years ago there was another smart man named Ross Perot (same initials, coincidence?)
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With the charts and stuff , he was funny to watch . I liked Ralph Nader , thought he would be the most honest President . Nader wouldn't get anywhere the whitehouse . Remembering the media making him out to be crazy a couple times .
 
Moses Mobetta

Moses Mobetta

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Farfenugen said:
And as far as urban warfare, though these soldiers may be trained in this sort of combat, I highly doubt this would entail kicking down the doors of mom and pop America, dragging them away to detention camps, like the Nazi scum did. Way too many common sense folk with the power to know right from wrong, good from bad, even these elite soldiers know that genocide is wrong (murdering civilians is pure evil) even though a few rotten apples have done just this, albeit in the middle east. And I think that in all likelihood that there's an even greater number of true Americans in government that know right from wrong/good from bad etc.


They could hit us with so much stuff from the air it would be ridiculous . If riots broke out in urban areas beyond what the local leo could handle , they would call in the military . I never want to see that .
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kbo ca

kbo ca

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yeah i never want to see it either, but we probably will. Thats why every trip i make to the store i buy atleast one extra box of ammo.
 
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RoninAmok

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kbo ca said:
yeah i never want to see it either, but we probably will. Thats why every trip i make to the store i buy atleast one extra box of ammo.
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And when WalMart is outa stock you know that something's "up" , there has recently been another drastic run on components too , everything is up across the board again.

Piece of advice if you shoot a lot , invest in a small reloading setup. In some chambering the savings won't be as much as folks will state *but* your ammo will be of MUCH higher quality , and then in certain cartridges the savings IS extreme.

Then put your other ammo funding into stuff that you *can't* reload such as .22lr.

And again , the two that will *actually* feed you most efficiently are .22lr and 12 gauge. A 12 gauge has the advantage of being perhaps the "prime" close range self defense tool , the drawback being weight and size of ammunition. A .22s advantages are legion as regards survival , but "stopping power" is completely and entirely in accurate placement , in other words there isn't any if you miss the vitals.

In addition I'll remind folks of the fact that one hell of a lot of game was taken in this country with archaic blackpowder firearms that when looked at from the standpoint of ballistics tables are " subpar" , might want to look again........example: you're going to find THREE sets of loading Specs for .45-70 , one of these based upon the notoriously weak "trapdoor" Springfield , these loadings duplicate the pressures of that era , load one of the Springfields to the next two up and you *WILL* blow the damn thing up.

The next set is for the modern Lever guns such as my Marlin 1895 Guide guns.........when loaded at these levels this cartridge comes into the territory of the milder ***African Game*** cartridges , and then we step up to thr fringes of the specs for the solid lockup rifles such as the Ruger No. 1 , loaded to *these* specs the cartridge is ***squarely*** in .458winmag ,.416 rigby ,.450 nitroexpress ,.404 jeffries type territory and not all that far off the thump of a .458 Lott. This is of course why it's my Bear defense cartridge of choice with judicious handloading.

Don't discount things based on age , folks laugh at the cowboy action shooters. *I* don't , I'm a defensive and combat tactics instructor and I for DAMN sure would be looking for something to hide behind if one of 'em teed off on me. Extreme example but watch this , and yes I've seen him.......


[video=youtube;sJTMCcrttmM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJTMCcrttmM[/video]
 
deprave

deprave

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So Dr Paul is a slick politician? I mean really that's your story? lol

The fact of the matter is Dr Paul stands for liberty...personal liberties, civil liberties and economic liberties. The other options aren't ...What do you have against earmarks? ...Why would you vote for anyone else? Why is anything else more important to you than civil/social/economic liberties? For me its a real easy decision who I am going to vote for and did vote for all though he probably won't win.


I am sorry I believe governments are not a friend to humanity, we can't make it work, I feel that strongly. Government is not good all the sudden the last 200 years. We are no exception to the rule of physics that all governments are evil life sucking entities which we created in good faith. It is mob or mafia rule.
 
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RoninAmok

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deprave said:
So Dr Paul is a slick politician? I mean really that's your story? lol

The fact of the matter is Dr Paul stands for liberty...personal liberties, civil liberties and economic liberties. The other options aren't ...What do you have against earmarks? ...Why would you vote for anyone else? Why is anything else more important to you than civil/social/economic liberties? For me its a real easy decision who I am going to vote for and did vote for all though he probably won't win.


I am sorry I believe governments are not a friend to humanity, we can't make it work, I feel that strongly. Government is not good all the sudden the last 200 years. We are no exception to the rule of physics that all governments are evil life sucking entities which we created in good faith. It is mob or mafia rule.
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Blah bla blah bla ( insert overused rhetoric here)...........NO Paul isn't " for Liberty" and YES Ron Paul is a slick Bullshit Artist Politician who ha been feeding at the hogtrough inside the Beltway for 24 years.


Blah bl BLLLLEATTTT baaaBBAAA Baaa BLEEEEAATTTT " Govt BAD Paul Good" baaa baaaa.

Damn but last I looked Paul IS a part of the government and has been for a longtime. Oh and ya care to discuss his stance on abortion? Guess that " freedom and liberty" ends at woman's womb does it?
 
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NoDrama

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RoninAmok said:
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA....like the subject hasn't been influenced by "personal opinion". Damn I would have thought you could do better than that one.
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Do you stick your pinky finger into the corner of your mouth when you cackle maniacally? All while stroking your cat and trying to get a ransom for a MILLION dollars?

stop being such a character and come down a few notches bro.
 
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RoninAmok

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NoDrama said:
Do you stick your pinky finger into the corner of your mouth when you cackle maniacally? All while stroking your cat and trying to get a ransom for a MILLION dollars?

stop being such a character and come down a few notches bro.
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I'm not your " bro". And put up a concise , reasoned arguement instead of inane strawmen , redherrings and the entire Fleet of Paulista Used Dodges.....
 
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NoDrama

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RoninAmok said:
I'm not your " bro". And put up a concise , reasoned arguement instead of inane strawmen , redherrings and the entire Fleet of Paulista Used Dodges.....
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Whats the matter bro? Your career as a writer for Triumph the comic insult dog dry up? I do sympathize with your situation bro.
 
deprave

deprave

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RoninAmok said:
Blah bla blah bla ( insert overused rhetoric here)...........NO Paul isn't " for Liberty" and YES Ron Paul is a slick Bullshit Artist Politician who ha been feeding at the hogtrough inside the Beltway for 24 years.


Blah bl BLLLLEATTTT baaaBBAAA Baaa BLEEEEAATTTT " Govt BAD Paul Good" baaa baaaa.

Damn but last I looked Paul IS a part of the government and has been for a longtime. Oh and ya care to discuss his stance on abortion? Guess that " freedom and liberty" ends at woman's womb does it?
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Excellent Rubttle, your point about "Blah bl BLLLLEATTTT baaaBBAAA Baaa BLEEEEAATTTT" in particular really hit it out of the park. Yes I have looked at his stance on abortion and his stance is that it can't be policed and that the government shouldn't be involved. It doesn't seem that you have looked at his stance on abortion.

Onto your next point since I simply cant refute your excellent giberish skills. Paul hasn't been much of "a part of the government" when he doesn't participate with insiders and constitently votes NO. Dr Paul is very much an outsider that managed to get into office. One of the last true statesmen.
 
kbo ca

kbo ca

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dude that guy with the gun is something else. Glad i have my AR-15. That shot where he splits the card in half is nuts!
 
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Parker

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RoninAmok said:
Blah bla blah bla ( insert overused rhetoric here)...........NO Paul isn't " for Liberty" and YES Ron Paul is a slick Bullshit Artist Politician who ha been feeding at the hogtrough inside the Beltway for 24 years.


Blah bl BLLLLEATTTT baaaBBAAA Baaa BLEEEEAATTTT " Govt BAD Paul Good" baaa baaaa.

Damn but last I looked Paul IS a part of the government and has been for a longtime. Oh and ya care to discuss his stance on abortion? Guess that " freedom and liberty" ends at woman's womb does it?
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Pull your head out of your backside. Paul is for smaller government. Big difference.
His stance on abortion is the baby has rights. The right to life trumps all others. Without the right to life the other rights are meaningless.
 
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