azmjmedman
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Thanks Kal, and like I said purklize that was just something I copied and pasted off the web.
Root Aphids.
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Crap, sorry, I didn't see you responding to me, I'm really sleep deprived right now. >_< Didn't mean to be patronizing.
Root aphids are HORRID until you realize how to control them properly... then they're a joke. They can't be killed in soil without chemicals, period, believe me I tried and I was very diligent.
Root aphids are HORRID until you realize how to control them properly... then they're a joke. They can't be killed in soil without chemicals, period, believe me I tried and I was very diligent.
1337hacker
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One thing is for certain... I'm never taking a cut from anyone ever again lol
Yeah be careful... you can take a cut but you better be CERTAIN they don't have russet mites. And spray it down 3x at 5 day intervals with a mix of 1/4tsp rosemary or peppermint oil in 1L distilled water with just barely enough soap to make it foam (rinse the plant off 10 minutes later). Russets will survive this, spider mites won't. Avoid root aphids by not accepting rooted cuts. Root them yourself. And try to only take cuts if they're free. If they're making money off it they have an incentive to lie to you about them being infested, if they aren't making money, they have no reason to lie.
BeaverHuntr
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Yup,
I used to take cuttings and leave them in the fridge with a cup of water and they survived for over 2 weeks. I used to always do this if I was too lazy to treat cuttings with azamax. You're right about the pests not being able to survive in the cold temps. i also like to put one drop of H202 in a the cup of water I place the cuttings in before they get dipped in clone gel/powder.
I've kept cuttings alive outside of the fridge for months in ziplocks before. It's a matter of feeding them and ventilating them once daily so they don't get powdery mildew or dampoff. It's a great way of preserving genetics if you have to lay low 'cause the landlord is onto you, or you have an inspection coming up, or you're in the middle of a big move. I know it's semi-off topic but I thought this might be interesting for some of you.
dbkick
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not only is forbid expensive but root aphids aren't listed as target pests. I rotated pyganic and azamax in an airless sprayer and just covered the entire room, so far no more aphids but when my room becomes empty of plants I'll make sure of it. I'll rotate pyganic , azamax , malathion and bayer tree and shrub but first my room has to be empty.
Oh, I should add, put the clone in a big yogurt cup, and use a 1 gallon ziplock... that way the leaves don't touch the outside of the bag. If the leaves are soaking wet all the time they will rot.
AvonBarksdale
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Ok guys, here is my post and pics from another popular grow forum:
Originally Posted by medicalmj
Never had the RAs thank god, but hear an Imid drench is the only way to kill em good. Just don't use after 2-3 wks of flwr...
Pretty much this.
I just dealt with them myself. My ladies were giving me phantom lockout problems, looked like a CaMg def. Anyways, one day I saw a couple of these guys floating in my res when it flooded. I went and added some SM-90 to the res cause that seemed to work last time I saw these critters...
Well that barely put but a dent in them this time, and within 3 days, I went from 10s to 100s to 1000s of these things.
After doing some research, primarily in this thread, and confirming that I did indeed have root aphids, I decided to get up to Home Depot and pick up some Bayer Fruit & Vegetable Insect Killer with Imid.
I added 10ml/gallon in my 25 gallon res and flooded it for about an hour. I also ran a pump from my res and top fed them really good, giving them a good rinsing with the Imid.
All those fuckers started climbing out of the hydroton and to the top of my pots, and looked like they were going crazy.
I waited about 10 hours, then gave my plants a good flushing with Clearex, and all these dead RAs just started dumping out.
I haven't seen anything in 4 days since treatment, and am pretty stoked because my girls looked noticeably healthier after treatment.
I'm spreading the gospel of using Imid as a preventative in veg, and in an emergency, no later than 14 days into flower. It truly works the most effective. If you use the other sprays or products, you just aren't going to get every single RA and egg. And it only takes one friggin' one to fuck shit up since they reproduce asexually.
Here's a pic of my slightly yellowing plants with the CaMg def, when there was no reason they should have had one, except for these damn bugs lol!
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Here is a translucent reddish brown one...
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Images aren't attaching easily for me at RIU, so sorry for the multiple posts.
That image is prior to Imid.. the 2nd image is 12 hours later...this is 3rd week of veg. (edit, flip that around...stupid pic posting.)
That image is prior to Imid.. the 2nd image is 12 hours later...this is 3rd week of veg. (edit, flip that around...stupid pic posting.)
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This is right after my first Imid treatment... they all stormed to the top of the pots, drains, etc for fresh air lol... Die scum!
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1337hacker
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those things look gross lol
AvonBarksdale - you're already growing in hydro, so there's no need to use Imid... which is toxic and not made for food crops, lingering for over a year in the plant...
https://www.rollitup.org/dwc-bubbleponics/523076-how-forever-eradicate-root-aphids.html
All you need to do is dunk the root masses in non-aerated water with some rosemary oil and soap. It has a 100% kill rate. If you can seal the root mass off from the outside so flying root aphids that weren't in the roots (and therefore weren't killed) can't get back in then they will be gone for good with one 10 minute treatment. If not, you may have to repeat it once every 5-7 days 2-3x.
https://www.rollitup.org/dwc-bubbleponics/523076-how-forever-eradicate-root-aphids.html
All you need to do is dunk the root masses in non-aerated water with some rosemary oil and soap. It has a 100% kill rate. If you can seal the root mass off from the outside so flying root aphids that weren't in the roots (and therefore weren't killed) can't get back in then they will be gone for good with one 10 minute treatment. If not, you may have to repeat it once every 5-7 days 2-3x.
AvonBarksdale
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truly disgusting lol...
AvonBarksdale
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Thanks, I'm going to war tonight when the lights come on at 9. Going to do a complete root drench at 30ml/gallon... some say that's overkill, but others said it worked wonders. I did it at 8-10ml/gallon last time, and while it kept at bay for about 3 weeks, they are clearly back with a vegenence.
My biggest fear is them building a resistance and me producing some kind of super root aphid.
I think I will definitely be starting a new variety and cleaning my room with a good scrubbing top to bottom because these things are no joke!
I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy!
