Root rot HELP ME!!!!!(RDWC)

This is absolutely incredible, 3 days since my last post and I would say this is quite the improvement. This growth is awesome! Roots have officially taken off and plants are growing fast! 20210729_200711.jpg20210729_200703.jpg
 

Hollatchaboy

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4-5 ppm sodium hypochlorite/bleach or calcium hypochlorite/pool shock.

I used sodium hypochlorite for years and it didn't harm the plants at all. Just healthy white roots.

I know some will freak out but that's because they don't understand or are misinformed. It will not harm your plants at all if used properly in small amounts.

This is what I used when doing flood and drain and DWC. I can hear the gasps now. But it's an inexpensive solution and works. People dumping all these expensive products and still getting root issues. If I ever do DWC or any form of hydro in the future I'll use bleach again and I won't get root rot.

In your experience, how long does it stay active in your res? On average.
 

tee127

New Member
Hi Guys, Im struggling with Root rot :(

period: week 6
Humidity: 60–65%
Temperature: 80f / 74f
Water Temperature: 62–68f
pH:5.5 ~ 6.0
PPM:500 (raising PPM very slowly)
nute:Canna Classic A,B ,Canna Rhizotonic, great white (i dont like this)


start roots rot since the water change in last weekend,i think look like mild rot, but leaf drooping , slime(dark Part of root) is attached as shown in the photo..I guess there was a problem with the water level and the air pump.
because Slime is just above the surface of the water, and bubbles are not enough(i using 4Liter/M air pump)
I orderd 65w 4500L/H powerful airpump and cycozyme, hydroguard to solve this problem.
I'm ready to use hydrogen peroxide (I also order 3% hydrogen peroxide, just in case), but I want to solve it with what I have .Before using hydrogen peroxide

(I couldn't transter to net pot because I grew it in a small container for too long.So I cut the net pot half and put it to the side. that's why roots don't come out between the net
 
4-5 ppm sodium hypochlorite/bleach or calcium hypochlorite/pool shock.

I used sodium hypochlorite for years and it didn't harm the plants at all. Just healthy white roots.

I know some will freak out but that's because they don't understand or are misinformed. It will not harm your plants at all if used properly in small amounts.

This is what I used when doing flood and drain and DWC. I can hear the gasps now. But it's an inexpensive solution and works. People dumping all these expensive products and still getting root issues. If I ever do DWC or any form of hydro in the future I'll use bleach again and I won't get root rot.

a lot of blech / sodium hypochlorite where im from has a bunch of other shit added to it, that possibly could be more harmful to plants than hypochlorite on its own. pls check before using OP
 

Lorha1159

Member
Thanks xtsho as well for the info. I knew I was going to be battling root rot more than likely being my res temps tend to stay at the highest end of acceptable. Roots finally got in the water couple days ago and not soon after lower leaves started wilting. Checked roots, fairly white but noticed brown spots, a slime, and roots bunching together. It was time for a res change so decided to go sterile. Using gh trio, gh calimagic, and was adding hydroguard. From the rest of my searching sterile seems to be the way to go if your temps are on the higher end.

Decided on bleach as easiest to aquire for immediate need. Plenty on hand. Most consensus seems to be 3 to 5 ppm so I split it at 4. Calculator link was awesome, thanks again. Added the .8ml to my 3gal of distilled water before any nutes. If i did it alright seems i ended up with 3ppm after the .8ml which im happy with. My camera wouldn't get good root pics but hopefully it cleans up. Plant looks good other wise and growth has been steady.
 

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DrHill

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Happy I'm able to help! That should work just fine with the calculator. I would add 3ppm to everything going in to the reservoir. The order added doesn't really matter that much, 3ppm is a very small amount.

I add it first because there's less things in the water for chlorine to oxidize to which gives you better sterilizing effect, this is just my theory and in practicality it may not matter at all. Cheers!
Hey, I have been having root rot issues with some clones as well. Just wondering if 3ppm Sodium Hypochlorite is the maintenance dose to keep everything sterile. And 9ppm is for treatment of active root rot?

After looking at the calculator I got about 1.67mL/gal for 9ppm
and 0.55mL/gal for 3ppm
Is this correct?

Based my measurements on 12gallons
Been doing the 3% peroxide thing for 1-2 days, just looking for alternative methods
 

Stomate

Active Member
4-5 ppm sodium hypochlorite/bleach or calcium hypochlorite/pool shock.

I used sodium hypochlorite for years and it didn't harm the plants at all. Just healthy white roots.

I know some will freak out but that's because they don't understand or are misinformed. It will not harm your plants at all if used properly in small amounts.

This is what I used when doing flood and drain and DWC. I can hear the gasps now. But it's an inexpensive solution and works. People dumping all these expensive products and still getting root issues. If I ever do DWC or any form of hydro in the future I'll use bleach again and I won't get root rot.

so does this seem about right? I’m having rot problems in rdwc week three of my first run… bennies apparently suck balls
 

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xtsho

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so does this seem about right? I’m having rot problems in rdwc week three of my first run… bennies apparently suck balls
If you put in the right parameters and the calculator you used is accurate then it should be.

You might not need 5 ppm. Here's a post with information on dosage.

 

Jjgrow420

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so does this seem about right? I’m having rot problems in rdwc week three of my first run… bennies apparently suck balls
Beneficial bacteria aren't superman. If theres already bad bacteria colonized good bacteria won't be able to do anything other than be taken over by the larger colony. An ESTABLISHED colony of beneficial bacteria can do the same and keep the baddies from being able to gain a stronghold.
 

Stomate

Active Member
Beneficial bacteria aren't superman. If theres already bad bacteria colonized good bacteria won't be able to do anything other than be taken over by the larger colony. An ESTABLISHED colony of beneficial bacteria can do the same and keep the baddies from being able to gain a stronghold.
Yeah I get that… definitely makes sense. Fairly positive I screwed myself over on this front. Have been looking at beautiful white roots while running orca and prior to the last res change there was a bit of a smell to the nutrient solution so I added in some UC Roots ( I just had it from a while back) for 24 hours ( 1ml per gallon) prior to my change out. New water going in was just nutrients, cal mag, silica blast and bennies and with in two days I have brown popping up on the root systems. Not exactly sure how these good bacteria set up and how long it takes them to establish themselves but I’m thinking that maybe my introduction of UC roots may have hurt colonies of good bacteria on the roots systems and then I killed them off with the UC roots making way for the rot (or whatever it may be) and the new bennies then didn’t have time to establish themselves before this took over. If that makes sense
 

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Jjgrow420

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Yeah I get that… definitely makes sense. Fairly positive I screwed myself over on this front. Have been looking at beautiful white roots while running orca and prior to the last res change there was a bit of a smell to the nutrient solution so I added in some UC Roots ( I just had it from a while back) for 24 hours ( 1ml per gallon) prior to my change out. New water going in was just nutrients, cal mag, silica blast and bennies and with in two days I have brown popping up on the root systems. Not exactly sure how these good bacteria set up and how long it takes them to establish themselves but I’m thinking that maybe my introduction of UC roots may have hurt colonies of good bacteria on the roots systems and then I killed them off with the UC roots making way for the rot (or whatever it may be) and the new bennies then didn’t have time to establish themselves before this took over. If that makes sense
Ya I dont run that way but as far as I know you wanna run a sterile res or problems such as yours arise.
Your bacteria can die off too, and that makes for a bad scene
 

Stomate

Active Member
If you put in the right parameters and the calculator you used is accurate then it should be.

You might not need 5 ppm. Here's a post with information on dosage.

Appreciate it man!
 
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