roots organic product need help

dontebyrd

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I am in veg stage ...and i recently had problems with my buddah grow as. You may see from my previous post . this is my first time using the root organic product. I have the buddah grow,ancient amber,extreme serene, HPK, HP2 , and trinity. ..during veg stage what do i mix togethet with my gal of water and how much of it do i mix ..my girls are just now starting to show signs of new growth after the buddah grow stunted my growth ...my girls are topped and as i said they sre showing new growth ...any and all help will be great
 

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dontebyrd

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Well the problem is i dont wNt to kill my girls nd last tume i used bg it harmed my girls so i was wonder if any one used this product. Nd what was their mix ratio ...i have picture of my girls on my last post thanks for your reply
 
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dontebyrd said:
Well the problem is i dont wNt to kill my girls nd last tume i used bg it harmed my girls so i was wonder if any one used this product. Nd what was their mix ratio ...i have picture of my girls on my last post thanks for your reply
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green_machine_two9er

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Ok. I checked out your pics from last thread. Now. Since we are in organics section I'm going to give you advice related to all natural cannibus growing. Ditch the bottled nutrients. Although they are "organic" based, this by no means makes that particular nutrient line sny better than general hydro or fox farm.s.
that being said. I can help you create a living soil environment an you will NEVEr worry about hurting your baby again. But. I also know he investment it takes and sometme you gotta go with what you have.
So you want to use your nutrients you have on hand. Ok that case here's my suggestions...
First. You need perlite in your soil. Up to 1/3 of total soil volume. Or just go with te roots camo bag. Roots soil can go up to 6-8 weeks veg no nutrients needed. Do not feed until plants says "hey human! I'm hungry".
Second. Your youn seeding is in WAY to big of a pot. Start super small than gradually increase pot size through veg time. This will also help making fresh nutrients which are in soil avail at each transplant. And again no nutrients needed.
Lastly. Once your plant is established and healthy than I would follow manufacturers recommendations for nutrients . Only cut in half or even a 1/4 to see how she reacts. Remember. The plants grows perfectly fine without us humans. Minority of problems come from overbearing growers who want to fix it now! But the most important thing you can do is dig up your lady. Remix some good orgsnic soiil(roots, ffof, ec) with perlite. And put her into a 2 qrt pot until her branches reach past sides of pot and roots are complexity grown in.
Or... Use the nutrients in a soiless medium. ( coco coir and perlite. Or promix )
Good luck friend! Again I can help you build a water only soil if you truly want to be organic.
 
dontebyrd

dontebyrd

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green_machine_two9er said:
Ok. I checked out your pics from last thread. Now. Since we are in organics section I'm going to give you advice related to all natural cannibus growing. Ditch the bottled nutrients. Although they are "organic" based, this by no means makes that particular nutrient line sny better than general hydro or fox farm.s.
that being said. I can help you create a living soil environment an you will NEVEr worry about hurting your baby again. But. I also know he investment it takes and sometme you gotta go with what you have.
So you want to use your nutrients you have on hand. Ok that case here's my suggestions...
First. You need perlite in your soil. Up to 1/3 of total soil volume. Or just go with te roots camo bag. Roots soil can go up to 6-8 weeks veg no nutrients needed. Do not feed until plants says "hey human! I'm hungry".
Second. Your youn seeding is in WAY to big of a pot. Start super small than gradually increase pot size through veg time. This will also help making fresh nutrients which are in soil avail at each transplant. And again no nutrients needed.
Lastly. Once your plant is established and healthy than I would follow manufacturers recommendations for nutrients . Only cut in half or even a 1/4 to see how she reacts. Remember. The plants grows perfectly fine without us humans. Minority of problems come from overbearing growers who want to fix it now! But the most important thing you can do is dig up your lady. Remix some good orgsnic soiil(roots, ffof, ec) with perlite. And put her into a 2 qrt pot until her branches reach past sides of pot and roots are complexity grown in.
Or... Use the nutrients in a soiless medium. ( coco coir and perlite. Or promix )
Good luck friend! Again I can help you build a water only soil if you truly want to be organic.
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Thanks alot for all the good info i plan to go all organic ....i rather just add water then do all these dumb steps. But im learning and i enjoy learning. The camo bag is called elemental ? I have that as well. I had to tranplant them all into bigger pots when i decided to give them fresh soil after i either over fed or did so thing wrong i figure instead of rrying to figure out where i wrnt wrong let me re pot them and start over .... Im kinda broke at this point untill friday wont have enough cash to get any thing else from my hydro store right now. So yea i kinda have to use this crap i have
 
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green_machine_two9er said:
Ok. I checked out your pics from last thread. Now. Since we are in organics section I'm going to give you advice related to all natural cannibus growing. Ditch the bottled nutrients. Although they are "organic" based, this by no means makes that particular nutrient line sny better than general hydro or fox farm.s.
that being said. I can help you create a living soil environment an you will NEVEr worry about hurting your baby again. But. I also know he investment it takes and sometme you gotta go with what you have.
So you want to use your nutrients you have on hand. Ok that case here's my suggestions...
First. You need perlite in your soil. Up to 1/3 of total soil volume. Or just go with te roots camo bag. Roots soil can go up to 6-8 weeks veg no nutrients needed. Do not feed until plants says "hey human! I'm hungry".
Second. Your youn seeding is in WAY to big of a pot. Start super small than gradually increase pot size through veg time. This will also help making fresh nutrients which are in soil avail at each transplant. And again no nutrients needed.
Lastly. Once your plant is established and healthy than I would follow manufacturers recommendations for nutrients . Only cut in half or even a 1/4 to see how she reacts. Remember. The plants grows perfectly fine without us humans. Minority of problems come from overbearing growers who want to fix it now! But the most important thing you can do is dig up your lady. Remix some good orgsnic soiil(roots, ffof, ec) with perlite. And put her into a 2 qrt pot until her branches reach past sides of pot and roots are complexity grown in.
Or... Use the nutrients in a soiless medium. ( coco coir and perlite. Or promix )
Good luck friend! Again I can help you build a water only soil if you truly want to be organic.[/QUOTE how do you mix your soil? And when added perlite how exactly will i mix it with the soil my girls was tranplanted a week ago and theres roots hanging from the bottom of the pot already
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dontebyrd said:
Thanks alot for all the good info i plan to go all organic ....i rather just add water then do all these dumb steps. But im learning and i enjoy learning. The camo bag is called elemental ? I have that as well. I had to tranplant them all into bigger pots when i decided to give them fresh soil after i either over fed or did so thing wrong i figure instead of rrying to figure out where i wrnt wrong let me re pot them and start over .... Im kinda broke at this point untill friday wont have enough cash to get any thing else from my hydro store right now. So yea i kinda have to use this crap i have
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No problem. And welcome btw! Hang out here In organics section you'll do great! And on re potting. If you just transplanted into new pots I would just wait! Give her about 10-14 days. And small amount of water. Directly at rootball. And when I mean small I meal really small. 1/2 cup. Maybe less. Especially in "heaver" soil. Just got to let her breath which of course happens deep underground around the roots. You biggest battle will be overwater. As is for most new soil growers.
 
dontebyrd

dontebyrd

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green_machine_two9er said:
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No problem. And welcome btw! Hang out here In organics section you'll do great! And on re potting. If you just transplanted into new pots I would just wait! Give her about 10-14 days. And small amount of water. Directly at rootball. And when I mean small I meal really small. 1/2 cup. Maybe less. Especially in "heaver" soil. Just got to let her breath which of course happens deep underground around the roots. You biggest battle will be overwater. As is for most new soil growers.
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Gotcha ill wait will adding perlite at this poont ? Or just wait untill i replant them again and how muxh bigger should i go pot wise ? Pretty sure its a 2 gal pot
 
green_machine_two9er

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dontebyrd said:
Gotcha ill wait will adding perlite at this poont ? Or just wait untill i replant them again and how muxh bigger should i go pot wise ? Pretty sure its a 2 gal pot
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Ahh shit. I forgot there was no perlite. So you'll probable want to get some in there. Very carefully. Try to separate the rootball. Keeping it as intact as possible. Shaking any loose soil at th same time. Then mix up perlite at a rate of 30-40% to soil. Or just go into straight roots( no additional perlite needed). 2 gallon pots are a bit small. But you wan to plan your whole cycle early. If you going to sog with no veg time 2 gallon would be sufficient. So look a your flowering space. Decide best way to flower. Large plants 7-10 gallon pots. With 2+ months veg time. Or my personal favorite is 3-5 gallon pots. 9-12 under a 600 watt lamp. With a short veg. (2-4 weeks). So how much flowering space donyou have? Lights? Canopy? That will more determine how big of pots you want to go with.
 
dontebyrd

dontebyrd

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green_machine_two9er said:
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No problem. And welcome btw! Hang out here In organics section you'll do great! And on re potting. If you just transplanted into new pots I would just wait! Give her about 10-14 days. And small amount of water. Directly at rootball. And when I mean small I meal really small. 1/2 cup. Maybe less. Especially in "heaver" soil. Just got to let her breath which of course happens deep underground around the roots. You biggest battle will be overwater. As is for most new soil growers.
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dontebyrd said:
Gotcha ill wait will adding perlite at this poont ? Or just wait untill i replant them again and how muxh bigger should i go pot wise ? Pretty sure its a 2 gal pot
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green_machine_two9er said:
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No problem. And welcome btw! Hang out here In organics section you'll do great! And on re potting. If you just transplanted into new pots I would just wait! Give her about 10-14 days. And small amount of water. Directly at rootball. And when I mean small I meal really small. 1/2 cup. Maybe less. Especially in "heaver" soil. Just got to let her breath which of course happens deep underground around the roots. You biggest battle will be overwater. As is for most new soil growers.
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green_machine_two9er said:
Ahh shit. I forgot there was no perlite. So you'll probable want to get some in there. Very carefully. Try to separate the rootball. Keeping it as intact as possible. Shaking any loose soil at th same time. Then mix up perlite at a rate of 30-40% to soil. Or just go into straight roots( no additional perlite needed). 2 gallon pots are a bit small. But you wan to plan your whole cycle early. If you going to sog with no veg time 2 gallon would be sufficient. So look a your flowering space. Decide best way to flower. Large plants 7-10 gallon pots. With 2+ months veg time. Or my personal favorite is 3-5 gallon pots. 9-12 under a 600 watt lamp. With a short veg. (2-4 weeks). So how much flowering space donyou have? Lights? Canopy? That will more determine how big of pots you want to go with.
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I have 9 sq foot grow tent. The girls are under mh lighting 400 watt wit 2 led 100 watt lights on each side it is well vent. And cool /warm as well
 
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dontebyrd said:
I have 9 sq foot grow tent. The girls are under mh lighting 400 watt wit 2 led 100 watt lights on each side it is well vent. And cool /warm as well
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With the perlite do i mix it with the soil or what is the better way of goong at this point i want to tryi. And avoid. Replanting at this point i only have the 3 plant plus 4 little seedlings growingthe are all out of the dirt also what does tour soil mix require ... I dont really want to use th bg but its organic and ive had it for a little probably rhe end of my last grow. But at this stage of my plant life what would you mix bg wise
 
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I'm not gunna have the best advice for when or how much nutrients to use. I just don't know except to go 1/4 to 1/2 strength recommended dose. My soil consist of 33% each peat. Perlite. Ewc. Plus locally sourced compost. And for my nutrients in use the following ammendments. Kelp, alfalfa, neam, crab and fish bone meal. Minerals are azomite. Rock phosphate. Gypsum. Humic acid ore. And of course oyster shell. More for ph buffering. I also use bio tone for bennies. And activated biochar. Could be forgetting a few things. Just listing. On the fly here.
 
nvhak49

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green_machine_two9er said:
Ok. I checked out your pics from last thread. Now. Since we are in organics section I'm going to give you advice related to all natural cannibus growing. Ditch the bottled nutrients. Although they are "organic" based, this by no means makes that particular nutrient line sny better than general hydro or fox farm.s.
that being said. I can help you create a living soil environment an you will NEVEr worry about hurting your baby again. But. I also know he investment it takes and sometme you gotta go with what you have.
So you want to use your nutrients you have on hand. Ok that case here's my suggestions...
First. You need perlite in your soil. Up to 1/3 of total soil volume. Or just go with te roots camo bag. Roots soil can go up to 6-8 weeks veg no nutrients needed. Do not feed until plants says "hey human! I'm hungry".
Second. Your youn seeding is in WAY to big of a pot. Start super small than gradually increase pot size through veg time. This will also help making fresh nutrients which are in soil avail at each transplant. And again no nutrients needed.
Lastly. Once your plant is established and healthy than I would follow manufacturers recommendations for nutrients . Only cut in half or even a 1/4 to see how she reacts. Remember. The plants grows perfectly fine without us humans. Minority of problems come from overbearing growers who want to fix it now! But the most important thing you can do is dig up your lady. Remix some good orgsnic soiil(roots, ffof, ec) with perlite. And put her into a 2 qrt pot until her branches reach past sides of pot and roots are complexity grown in.
Or... Use the nutrients in a soiless medium. ( coco coir and perlite. Or promix )
Good luck friend! Again I can help you build a water only soil if you truly want to be organic.
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What kinda soil and admendment mix are you making to just add water too. I'm trying to make my own mixes too so I'm pretty new to organics. I've been using down to earth nutes and black gold soil and getting pretty good results. But till have to top dress or brew a tea when the girls are hungry.
 
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nvhak49 said:
What kinda soil and admendment mix are you making to just add water too. I'm trying to make my own mixes too so I'm pretty new to organics. I've been using down to earth nutes and black gold soil and getting pretty good results. But till have to top dress or brew a tea when the girls are hungry.
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My most recent reply has most of my ingredients. This soil is "cooked" 30 days minimum before use
 
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green_machine_two9er said:
Ok. I checked out your pics from last thread. Now. Since we are in organics section I'm going to give you advice related to all natural cannibus growing. Ditch the bottled nutrients. Although they are "organic" based, this by no means makes that particular nutrient line sny better than general hydro or fox farm.s.
that being said. I can help you create a living soil environment an you will NEVEr worry about hurting your baby again. But. I also know he investment it takes and sometme you gotta go with what you have.
So you want to use your nutrients you have on hand. Ok that case here's my suggestions...
First. You need perlite in your soil. Up to 1/3 of total soil volume. Or just go with te roots camo bag. Roots soil can go up to 6-8 weeks veg no nutrients needed. Do not feed until plants says "hey human! I'm hungry".
Second. Your youn seeding is in WAY to big of a pot. Start super small than gradually increase pot size through veg time. This will also help making fresh nutrients which are in soil avail at each transplant. And again no nutrients needed.
Lastly. Once your plant is established and healthy than I would follow manufacturers recommendations for nutrients . Only cut in half or even a 1/4 to see how she reacts. Remember. The plants grows perfectly fine without us humans. Minority of problems come from overbearing growers who want to fix it now! But the most important thing you can do is dig up your lady. Remix some good orgsnic soiil(roots, ffof, ec) with perlite. And put her into a 2 qrt pot until her branches reach past sides of pot and roots are complexity grown in.
Or... Use the nutrients in a soiless medium. ( coco coir and perlite. Or promix )
Good luck friend! Again I can help you build a water only soil if you truly want to be organic.
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Nice post
 
Richard Drysift

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dontebyrd said:
@Richard Drysift any help bro
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My advice is don't buy a bunch of stuff & then expect strangers online to give you advice on usage. Sounds like you've listened to your hydro guy who kindly helped loosen up your wallet - I am guilty of this as well. Do yourself a favor & use up this stuff because that roots organics shit has a short shelf life but I would also suggest getting rid of all that crap as soon as you can & start up a worm farm if ya wanna grow organic. Then aquire soil amendments a little at a time until you have all you need to recycle your mix. Get books like true living organics and/or teaming with microbes & start reading & researching here in the meantime.
I myself had bad luck using roots organics bottled nutrient products but maybe it was because at the time I was starting out trying to use TLO growing methods..that high PK shit recommended by my hydro guy threw off the ph & severely diminished my yield as an end result. Plus the plants I had in veg were always showing N def so I gave up using bottled nutes altogether which was the best decision I've made yet....I haven't even been back to the hydro store or spend much money on supplies for growing weed since then- unless you count my power bill that is. Not saying you'll have the same issues because I wasn't using the full line of product but soil amendments and organic teas are all you need- ditch all the bottled crap they wanna try to sell you.
 
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