Round 2: PPP SOG Grow

Whats up guys!

So here we are at that time of year where everybody is turning off the lights and fans, and moving outside.

I will be joining you all there, but i figured i would keep tweaking my room at the same time..... hopefully I can keep the temps right.

My plan for this round is a SOG using:

• Lights: 2x 400 Watt MH
• Strain: PPP
• Nutes: Fox Farm Trio.
• Medium: Hempy (perlite/vermiculite)
• Seed or clone: Clones....lots of them!!

I plan to try a small scale perpetual harvest, starting at my mother plants, Which are:

• Whit Widow
• PPP
• Northern Lights
• Violator Kush

and going with longer clones, around 7-8 inches in Rockwool Cubes, or propagation plugs, and then moving them into flower directly from the dome.

I plan to transplant clones every two or three weeks, i'll see how it works out, and eventually alternate between strains every two weeks......creating a flow of a variety of sweet nuggs!

But for now, i am limited to the PPP only until my mothers finish filling out......which they have been doing nicely!!!


So, while i wait for:

• my outdoor girls to get out of the dome,
• my mothers to finish filling out for cutting,

I'll be waiting on my last crop to come out of the paper bags and go in the jars....or my bong!!LOL!!

Thanks Guys, and hope to see all the same faces here as my last grow journal!
Lilmafia513

Subscribed, can't wait to see this unfold. Pulling up a chair

Hey Tom, light it up, and hang out awhile!

Got the outside work done, now we wait..................

Got two trays holding me up yet, so about a week or two more before any progress on this.

hello i brought a nice comfy chair. good luck on this round. i cant wait to see your violator kush.

smoke and coke said:

hello i brought a nice comfy chair. good luck on this round. i cant wait to see your violator kush.

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Sidenote: Please read all this.....it has some plans and questions i need some advice on!!! Thanks Guys

Smoke,
Well ya might not have to wait too long!!LOL!!
I cleared out my trays today and re-filled them. Cut 8 PPP and 4 VK, put them in 24 hrs dark for their first night in the dome.
Now we wait for roots......and more clones to be ready.

****(Meanwhile back in the room)****
I think i may change this grow a bit after watching the plants the last few days.
I noticed the growth is a little slow on a PPP after a cutting, the WW on the other hand is exploding with new shoots....everywhere!

The VK was a little slow re-cooping from it's topping last week, but got the four clones from it, so i'm not complaining.

The NL, isn't so happy with being topped, and is a little droopy. I'm sure it will pull throough!

So with all this going on, and my mothers at different sizes...........Including bringing home a new addition yesterday
(Himalayan Gold Clone)!!!

My plan is this.... I now have 8 PPP, 4 VK clones in dark and will begin rooting tommorrow. When they show roots, i will transplant and have to vegg a minute, clones were'nt as long as I thought, about 5 inches, but then go into flower.
At which point i will cut all the WW clones I can, and start them rooting, when they are ready i will transplant them into flower, again taking new clones from another strain......I know, I know!!!!

Many people say you cant do a SOG or perpetual harvest with different strains, but i wanna see if I can!
I decided this because i found my clones seem to take about two weeks in the dome, to show good roots, and show new growth. Leaving me plenty of time to allow the next one in line for the cutting session to grow out more for better clones.
So if i have about 10-12 plants....these being in SOG and would be in my Red plastic hempy cups.That means more plants per square foot in my dual light box!
But still alot of room to add more red cups. Maybe allowing me to get more frequent harvest.........
ANY THOUGHTS
I promise soon there will be pics of the moms, but don't want to show the droopy one....

I'm pumped, cant wait to do this.......

Thanks Guys!!!

im liking your ideas. i dont see why you cant do it with different strains, its just going to be more work. you sound like me, always busy. i def. want to see how this turns out now.
i must have about 15 different going right now, and out of 12 reg. seeds only 2 males. so im running out of room fast. on day 19 of 12/12.

smoke and coke said:

im liking your ideas. i dont see why you cant do it with different strains, its just going to be more work. you sound like me, always busy. i def. want to see how this turns out now.
i must have about 15 different going right now, and out of 12 reg. seeds only 2 males. so im running out of room fast. on day 19 of 12/12.

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Hey smoke,
As i think to my last round with PPP and WW side by side, in a SOG setup, were the same height by the time i got done.

WW is said to double maybe triple in stretch during flower, but stayed level with the PPP all the way.

The only concern is the final results with the VK, or NL.....or even the Himalayan gold i just got. Thats why i may stick to the PPP and WW in alteration until i see how the VK clones come out.

I may take a clipping of the HG to become the new mother for that, buying me time on space issues, and put the current clone outside.....watched a video that said it could possibly give 1 1/2 LB per outdoor.

Too many strains all at once!!

my hym. gold is about 32" tall i think. has been topped once and has a lot of branches. i think im going to be pleased with the outcome. is it your first hym. gold?
i dont have anyplace to keep mothers over the winter so i use seed, take some clones and grow everything. then shut down for winter. i took a bunch of clones and should be rooted in a week or so. i have no idea what to do with them. either they will go outside or i will give them away.

i like variety in my stash, so i can pick and choose my meds for whatever is needed at the time. why do you say too many strains all at once? i just had so many diff. i wanted to try, and really didnt plan on this many fems.

smoke and coke said:

my hym. gold is about 32" tall i think. has been topped once and has a lot of branches. i think im going to be pleased with the outcome. is it your first hym. gold?
i dont have anyplace to keep mothers over the winter so i use seed, take some clones and grow everything. then shut down for winter. i took a bunch of clones and should be rooted in a week or so. i have no idea what to do with them. either they will go outside or i will give them away.

i like variety in my stash, so i can pick and choose my meds for whatever is needed at the time. why do you say too many strains all at once? i just had so many diff. i wanted to try, and really didnt plan on this many fems.

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yes this is my first HG, I said too many cuz i am over filling my mother chamber with too many strains, i am going to have to expand soon!!LOL!!!

pics were taken last night of the mothers and the rest of the outdoor collection.

Waiting on camera to recharge, then they'll be up.

for more "room" i made a dark room in a closet, and instead of shutting the lights off after 12 hours, I switch the girls with the ones who were in the dark for the past 12 hours. hempy makes it easy too, I am usually rough moving them in hopes of ripping a few roots, kinda like training them i guess. gonna try to watch this one. SoG and hempy is where its at bro

Hey Mango thanks for stopping by!

I had to take another round of cutting, remember i have 4 mothers of PPP..... well "had" 4 mothers of PPP...!
You can see below, I have three bigger plants in the back, these are PPP in soil, and one in hempy. (pic is from last week)


I also have one in Hempy four gallon bucket... recently transplanted into this bucket so she has been a little slow reaching the res.
Just noticed today she is showing signs of finding that big drink at the bottom. She was not cut from today, i am saving her for the long haul.
Got some training to do soon! (PIC BELOW)


Anyway, the three in with the outdoor clones, pictured first, were just trimmed clean of what they had, down to a single stalk,
and were put outside with the other clones around them.
Now i Have the One PPP Mom, pictured second in the hempy.


Beside that I have this White Widow Mom,
She actually got cut trimmed down a little today, used the cuttings for 10 clones, and only to try to form a shape to her.
But still got 10 clones from her.


Here is my Violator kush Mother, she is small I know, but she is on her way to cloning days.
I have four of her already in the dome a few days from root. She was topped once and started in soil,
where she will remain until her flowering day.



Ok, here is the droopy Northern Lights Mom. She didn't react very nicely to the topping the same day as the VK was.
She is in soil now, and it was a bit of over watering on my part that caused this as well. she started drooping,
from being topped, so i took it as too dry. she seems to be doing a little better today, than when these were taken last week.



Any thoughts guys

AND....., let's not forget the Himalayan Gold Mom:
Just got her last week, gave her one dose of nutes., and she is picking up more color already.
I hear good things about this strain for outdoor especially!



Ok, so right now I have these 8 PPP, 4 VK clones in this dome:


I just cut 10 WW, and 20 PPP clones tonight. They are in the other dome in the dark for 24 hrs.
That makes 40 clones going at the moment.
The rest is another day

Well, I hope that was enough porn for one day!
So whatchya' think guys? Please leave me all the feedback you can. I'm still learning as much as the next guy!

I need a smoke and some sleep!
-lilmaf

wheres the pics??? how do i subscribe to this thread?

sogbunn said:

wheres the pics??? how do i subscribe to this thread?

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you posted,you are subscribed,
Pics are in the text

i dont see any pics.

ok, i guess there was a problem with the pics.
I dont know what happened, but i have changed my plans for this grow. I do not have the time required to operate a perpetual harvest grow. I have about 40 clones that have been placed in hempy cups and are taking root as we speak.

There will be mostly PPP, WW, and a few violator Kush.

Not much happening besides that.

I need a big harvest........one that will hold me over for a bit of time. Between myself and friends, my previous harvest are gone!!!

I want a big harvest and about 40-50 SOG PPP should do it. I figured if I got almost an Ounce dried from 4 PPP in SOG style last round, you do the math on 40 of themm...LOL!!!

Well, i guess i need new opics of the mothers adn what just went in the cups. Give me a few days and ill get them up. Had a crazy busy week and holiday weekend......i need a vacation. Jamaica...anyone?

lilmafia513

lilmafia513 said:

ok, i guess there was a problem with the pics.
I dont know what happened, but i have changed my plans for this grow. I do not have the time required to operate a perpetual harvest grow. I have about 40 clones that have been placed in hempy cups and are taking root as we speak.

There will be mostly PPP, WW, and a few violator Kush.

Not much happening besides that.

I need a big harvest........one that will hold me over for a bit of time. Between myself and friends, my previous harvest are gone!!!

I want a big harvest and about 40-50 SOG PPP should do it. I figured if I got almost an Ounce dried from 4 PPP in SOG style last round, you do the math on 40 of themm...LOL!!!

Well, i guess i need new opics of the mothers adn what just went in the cups. Give me a few days and ill get them up. Had a crazy busy week and holiday weekend......i need a vacation. Jamaica...anyone?

lilmafia513

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r u rootin in the purelite/hempy??? i normally use peat plugs and now tryin to root in purlite... i put my cuttings in the "hempy" a few hrs ago and they look horible... all fallin over and such.. is this normal when rooting in hempy??? i have nvr seen such a fast and bad droop as this but have also nvr done it like this so idk...

Looking forward to this SoG! I am between this or SCRoG at the moment..

sogbunn said:

r u rootin in the purelite/hempy??? i normally use peat plugs and now tryin to root in purlite... i put my cuttings in the "hempy" a few hrs ago and they look horible... all fallin over and such.. is this normal when rooting in hempy??? i have nvr seen such a fast and bad droop as this but have also nvr done it like this so idk...

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no i use the RW cubes to root in in the dome. trying a hempy rooting now also. i would say you still need to keep it in the dome, to keep humidity right, but again i dont know for sure.
maybe post a question in the "Hempy collective", he might be able to help more than me on this question.

SOMEBEECH said:

LMF,very proud of ya my friend,you have come along way!!!IL be starting a new thread soon just havent decided on what maybe you can teach me some Hempy grows styles?Too hot to fire up all my lights and A/C.So il just run a 600 are 2x400,maybe SOG hempy?Man that shoulder sergery sucked,not to metion rehabin IT that damn near killed my old ass.BEECH

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Thanks beech, glad to see ya stop by and get in on this. Remember we got a grow challenge to get to......we will call it the "Hempy challenge"..LOL!
Pm'd ya, get back at me beech!

btt said:

Looking forward to this SoG! I am between this or SCRoG at the moment..

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I hear scrog is good and have seen great results here from it. i hear the SOG is better for people with smaller areas, or that wanna focus on just the cola. that's what people really wanna see in the bag, one big cola, a few of them!!