Royal Queen Auto - Quick One / Dwarf, early flower?

Pete2682

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Evening guys,

Second post here and first time trying Autos out indoors so be nice :)

Started this little grow as a test run to see if my environment etc was ok and just to get a feel for the autos after having a successful outdoor summer grow.

I decided to try Royal Queen seeds and out of the bunch I bought including Gorilla Glue Auto and Northern Lights Auto I decided to try the easier strains to manage.

Those being the Royal Dwarf Auto, and Quick One auto.

I planted them in their final pots, used some nuteless soil I got from the grow shop mixed with the right ratio of perlite and started them on their 18/6 light schedule which i have had them on since day 1.

My grow op is a closet grow, with a 600w full spectrum led, carbon filter, intake /exhaust fans so on, its always kept at a temp of around 29 degrees and humidity up around the 50% region.

Ive kept the pots relatively small, think they are 3ltr pots simply to keep the overall size of the plants down, im very limited to space height wise.

The bushier one of the two is the Dwarf, and even though im seeing some slight signs of early flower its still clearly trying to veg.
The skinnier of the two is the Quick One, and that seems to have gone into flower already, way too early or are these preflowers?
Its already starting to give off its beautiful aroma, but im just not too sure because these Autos are a whole new ball game :/

This is day 45, from the time they popped their little heads above the soil, and both have a timescale of 90 to 100 days from seed to harvest.

I personally think i left it too long to start giving them veg nutes, it was at least 22 days after sprouting before they received any, and when they did it was bare a dose just so they could adjust.

Ive read loads of threads here already and have earned quite a bit about possible errors, but looking for some direct opinions and advice on these two plants specifically.

Greatly appreciated guys and much love.
 

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shushubandora

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Very small for day 45, for 600w you will have very low yield. (I assume this 600w actually pull 300w but still)
Regardless of the space you got don't limit yourself in pot size, go for at least 10 litter. The limit factor should allways be the light, every thing else should be bit extra.
Good luck and hope you will get good smoke.
 

Budzbuddha

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Should have fed them from at least the first week. Not sure why you even wanted to use a NUTELESS soil ... whatever that is.

Which soil are you talking about. ?

Autos will preflower ( sex ) at day 30ish or so and cannot be stopped.
If veg stage ( which is short ) week 1 to week 5 , you have a limited time to get her to root out and setup structure .... it can and will branch out around the 2nd week of flower usually in the stretch phase .

But dwarfs strains are just that .... small shorty plants.

You should start bloom Nutes after 2nd week into flower ... as budsites begin to set up.
Bring light down between 18-15” from top. They need more light.
Your “ 600 watt “ is nowhere near what is stated , so you have to bring in closer.
 

Budzbuddha

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One trick with autos and soil grows .... cut good soil medium with lots of perlite .
The CHUNKY perlite ... if possible. Or 2 to 3 cups of regular plain perlite per 3 gallon container of good soil - mix well then fill pot.

It aerates , increases oxygen , drainage and keeps compacted soil from happening .

Another is add a scoop of beneficials ( myco ) in mix to start a happy soil.

You will find better autos than royal too ..
 

jonsmith2012ad

Well-Known Member
Evening guys,

Second post here and first time trying Autos out indoors so be nice :)

Started this little grow as a test run to see if my environment etc was ok and just to get a feel for the autos after having a successful outdoor summer grow.

I decided to try Royal Queen seeds and out of the bunch I bought including Gorilla Glue Auto and Northern Lights Auto I decided to try the easier strains to manage.

Those being the Royal Dwarf Auto, and Quick One auto.

I planted them in their final pots, used some nuteless soil I got from the grow shop mixed with the right ratio of perlite and started them on their 18/6 light schedule which i have had them on since day 1.

My grow op is a closet grow, with a 600w full spectrum led, carbon filter, intake /exhaust fans so on, its always kept at a temp of around 29 degrees and humidity up around the 50% region.

Ive kept the pots relatively small, think they are 3ltr pots simply to keep the overall size of the plants down, im very limited to space height wise.

The bushier one of the two is the Dwarf, and even though im seeing some slight signs of early flower its still clearly trying to veg.
The skinnier of the two is the Quick One, and that seems to have gone into flower already, way too early or are these preflowers?
Its already starting to give off its beautiful aroma, but im just not too sure because these Autos are a whole new ball game :/

This is day 45, from the time they popped their little heads above the soil, and both have a timescale of 90 to 100 days from seed to harvest.

I personally think i left it too long to start giving them veg nutes, it was at least 22 days after sprouting before they received any, and when they did it was bare a dose just so they could adjust.

Ive read loads of threads here already and have earned quite a bit about possible errors, but looking for some direct opinions and advice on these two plants specifically.

Greatly appreciated guys and much love.
Hey man I’m growing the dwarf too here’s mine it’s about 5 weeks I believe.
 

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Pete2682

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Very small for day 45, for 600w you will have very low yield. (I assume this 600w actually pull 300w but still)
Regardless of the space you got don't limit yourself in pot size, go for at least 10 litter. The limit factor should allways be the light, every thing else should be bit extra.
Good luck and hope you will get good smoke.
I think pot size may have also been part of the issue, probably way too late to transplant now.All noted for the next attempt my friend so thank you

Should have fed them from at least the first week. Not sure why you even wanted to use a NUTELESS soil ... whatever that is.

Which soil are you talking about. ?

Autos will preflower ( sex ) at day 30ish or so and cannot be stopped.
If veg stage ( which is short ) week 1 to week 5 , you have a limited time to get her to root out and setup structure .... it can and will branch out around the 2nd week of flower usually in the stretch phase .

But dwarfs strains are just that .... small shorty plants.

You should start bloom Nutes after 2nd week into flower ... as budsites begin to set up.
Bring light down between 18-15” from top. They need more light.
Your “ 600 watt “ is nowhere near what is stated , so you have to bring in closer.
They have been potted in a soil that has no nutrients, and i didnt add any until around week 3 which in hindsight was way too late.
I cant remember the brand name off the top off my head, but the local grow shop recommended it.

So both of these plants have already gone into flower? I fed them some more veg nutes 2 days ago, do you suggest to immediately switch to bloom on the next feed?
I appreciate the input, even just the above has given me insight into the next grow which i will be germinating for tomorrow.

So week 1 to 5 from sprout begin feeding it veg nutes to help it grow and take shape as quickly as possible before flower.
2nd week of flower after stretch phase, feed them bloom up until flush.
And keep lights low.

I currently have the light around 20" as i am limited for height space

One trick with autos and soil grows .... cut good soil medium with lots of perlite .
The CHUNKY perlite ... if possible. Or 2 to 3 cups of regular plain perlite per 3 gallon container of good soil - mix well then fill pot.

It aerates , increases oxygen , drainage and keeps compacted soil from happening .

Another is add a scoop of beneficials ( myco ) in mix to start a happy soil.

You will find better autos than royal too ..
Yeah i mixed both with 40% perlite to 60% soil ratio, could only get the plain perlite though, i may try the chunkier stuff next time around and some Myco as you said.
Any euro suggestions for better seeds bro?

Hey man I’m growing the dwarf too here’s mine it’s about 5 weeks I believe.
Mine seems to be a little bushier with bud sights only starting to form now with a week or so on yours, will see how these go and keep this thread updated.
Good luck with it ;)


Thanks for the input guys :)
 

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