running my grow room off car batteries?

dmc1984

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I'm building a new grow room in a shed (outdoor house) in the garden..

Obviously it currently has no electrics.. But I woundered.... Could I power it using a few car batteries then alternate charging or even use a diesel generator..

Anyone got any ideas on this?

Would be a CFL setup about 200 watts
 

NLXSK1

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No. A car battery has nowhere near the charge to run lights.

A diesel generator would work though.
 

dmc1984

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yeah just looking at the generators now.. what sort of noise do they output?

looking for something fairly inconspicous also this would techincally be "free" other than the cost of diesel of course
 

smokendude420

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I'm building a new grow room in a shed (outdoor house) in the garden..

Obviously it currently has no electrics.. But I woundered.... Could I power it using a few car batteries then alternate charging or even use a diesel generator..

Anyone got any ideas on this?

Would be a CFL setup about 200 watts
i have saw folks run a few small lights, radios and fans off a solar panel hooked to a deepcell battery and then to a power converter. if you were to get a few deepcell batteries and a high amp solar pnel you may be able to pull it off. i'm sure with some research you could figure out just how many batteries you would need to hold youi over till the sun comes back out, and how many amps it would take to recharge your batteries during the day.

i want to try something similar to setup an outdoor dwc system, gl to you sir.
 

smokendude420

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yeah just looking at the generators now.. what sort of noise do they output?

looking for something fairly inconspicous also this would techincally be "free" other than the cost of diesel of course
if you wanted to go the geny route you could build a quite room for it to muffle the noise and just add an exhaust port to your box.
 

dmc1984

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thanks mate, was woundering what sort of reception this would get but glad its positive..

Yeah I agree, well I was thinking 4 cell batteries hooked up to a diesel or two stroke generator
 

dmc1984

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I'm sure one of those exhaust silencers they sell for the hydro stuff would work too...

Might just buy one and see, what about voltage and stuff.. will I need to convert it? I'm in the uk not sure what volts our batteries work on against what voltage our houses run on.. Might need an amp of some sort too.
 

golddog

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I'm building a new grow room in a shed (outdoor house) in the garden..

Obviously it currently has no electrics.. But I woundered.... Could I power it using a few car batteries then alternate charging or even use a diesel generator..

Anyone got any ideas on this?

Would be a CFL setup about 200 watts
Yes you could do that for a 200 watt system. The would be almost 2 amps per hour, you would need a good DEEP CYCLE battery, like and Optima 34d Blue Top.

Car batteries can only be drained down to 50%, then recharged or you will ruin the battery pretty quickly. Deep Cycle batteries can be taken down to 30% safely and recharged. The Optima Brands are Gel Cell and are the best you can buy for around $200.

You will need an inverter ($75) to convert DC to AC for you lights and a deep cycle charger ($50).

Good Luck, the batteries are heavy bongsmilie

P.S. You could do it with 1 battery if you charged it every day
 

riddleme

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you would want to go solar or wind with battery banks or it will cost more than simply having electric hooked up to the shed

and it is totally doable
 

TheDude0007

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In my opinion it is going to be a mission running of the batteries. I would not do it I where you. But it certainly is possible running only 200w off it.

A generator is going to be loud. The softest one will sound like a lawnmover that is running all the time. So hardly inconspicious.

My advice. Buy some plastic tubing and feed a good qaulity power cable through it. Berry this pipe in the garden, you put a plug on one end and plug it into you power in the home. Good multiplug on the other end in your shed. If you do it well no one would know.

But if you are forever carrying car batteries around your back would suffer and the neibours would wonder if you have iliegals in the shed. :-) With the geny also people are gonna wonder. :-)
 

aug181983

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Run a extension cord from the nearest outlet . Just dig up in the grass the length and width of the cord then cover with dirt. Thats what Id do instead of going threw all the B-S
 

gobbly

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Personally I would avoid generators if you can. The main issue I have with them is noise, efficiency (gas is not a very efficient source of electricity when you compare it to nuclear or hydro), and ventilation. You can get propane generators, which are large improvements over gas imo, but I still wouldn't consider them ideal long term solutions. I use a gas generator to backup aquariums when the power goes out, and it's great for the few hours it's needed a few times a year, but I gag at the thought of relying on it for consistent power (not to mention, my neighbors would probably start a petition against me if I ran it all the time, even in the muffled box I built for it).

I went over some plans once with an electrician friend to build a battery system for growing. It's 100% doable, but it's certainly more than just a car battery (I can't recall the exact number, but the plans he made called for a series of car batteries, maybe 9 or 12 of them or something. It also involved a converter to handle the AC/DC, as well as something which would have regulated the charge going to the battery, as well as the draw (this is specifically why I would have a real electrician do the plans and assembly for such a system). This is basically just a large scale DIY UPS (uninterrupted power supply). At that point, running underground conduit and powering the shed might be similar in expense and complication, and is certainly the ideal way to go, unless the idea of solar tickles the conservationist in you in which case I say go for it, the earth needs as much of our help as it can get.

There are large scale commercial battery backups, that are silent. I looked into them when I got my generator, and they look awesome, but are kinda pricey.
 
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