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Lightgreen2k

Lightgreen2k

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Smokolotapotamus said:
Oh my God, I just found out raw stole french toast from archive. Anyone want them? I can't grow them out, it's unethical.
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You Feel Stupid.

It is not about just finding out. YOU INSISTED RAW created French Toast Man.

They used a male and crossed it to melon mints. People like you are funny, you switch your tune soo fast.

Dude is now trying to play it off as unethically when His Dumb Ass didnt know shit about who created french toast. Fix up man.
 
Lightgreen2k

Lightgreen2k

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Smokolotapotamus said:
Oh look. Honest put out dosidos (archive) bx and MCC bx from (exotix). This is unethical. I'm not going to grow then out! Anger. Anger. Anger.
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Keep honest genetics. Why haven't you purchased from the Original Breeder? For any genetics you have?

Thats Lame all the way? Money problems my man? Do you want a fund raiser to purchase authentic gentics.
 
Lightgreen2k

Lightgreen2k

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Smokolotapotamus said:
So is cannarado, Clearwater, CSi and seed junky considered "respectable" cuz they all did an s1 of other people's work.
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Clearwater shouldn't have released and s1 of lumpy's work. Just to be clear if Lumpy is saying he never released anything, it would have been to be bag seed.
 
Jonny Lan

Jonny Lan

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Smokolotapotamus said:
Seedjunky did gelato33s1. It's weird how these rules keep changing. Did he breed gelato 33? No. Why's he allowed to put that out then? Lol.
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When did the rules change? They have always been the same to me at least. I see that I have to be VERY clear with you as you are missing the point. Gelato was not a general release that was made available to the public and S1 seeds made are not in any way unethical due to the fact it doesn’t take away anything from the breeder. The same thing goes for Girl Scout Cookies, Triangle Kush, The White and the list goes on. Now if someone like Copy Cat goes and makes S1’s of Donny Burger (Skunk House), LA Kush Cake (Seed Junky) or Frozay (Relentless) than that to me is messed up for multiple reasons.

1. It directly takes away from the breeders who actually put in the time and/or work to release said strain.

2. it causes confusion as bad results can come from the s1 and people smoking the flowers in the end market can mistakenly associate those negative traits with the original in turn ruining the potential for that work to get recognized appropriately. It also makes confusion for growers who are new and don’t know who the original breeder for certain strains are. Ex: noob jimmy tries wedding Cake in dispensary, loves it so much he decides to buy some seeds to try and grow it. He types in Wedding Cake seeds in his google browser and ends up finding Wedding Cake S1 by “insert R.I.P. off artist name here” resulting in the fore mentioned problems.

I mean at the end of the day people can do whatever they want. Just like how there is people who make fake Louis Vuitton bags and then people who also buy said fakes. To each his own. I don’t care enough to say anymore beyond this. Just my 2 cents.

Bless.
 
Smokolotapotamus

Smokolotapotamus

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Jonny Lan said:
When did the rules change? They have always been the same to me at least. I see that I have to be VERY clear with you as you are missing the point. Gelato was not a general release that was made available to the public and S1 seeds made are not in any way unethical due to the fact it doesn’t take away anything from the breeder. The same thing goes for Girl Scout Cookies, Triangle Kush, The White and the list goes on. Now if someone like Copy Cat goes and makes S1’s of Donny Burger (Skunk House), LA Kush Cake (Seed Junky) or Frozay (Relentless) than that to me is messed up for multiple reasons.

1. It directly takes away from the breeders who actually put in the time and/or work to release said strain.

2. it causes confusion as bad results can come from the s1 and people smoking the flowers in the end market can mistakenly associate those negative traits with the original in turn ruining the potential for that work to get recognized appropriately. It also makes confusion for growers who are new and don’t know who the original breeder for certain strains are. Ex: noob jimmy tries wedding Cake in dispensary, loves it so much he decides to buy some seeds to try and grow it. He types in Wedding Cake seeds in his google browser and ends up finding Wedding Cake S1 by “insert R.I.P. off artist name here” resulting in the fore mentioned problems.

I mean at the end of the day people can do whatever they want. Just like how there is people who make fake Louis Vuitton bags and then people who also buy said fakes. To each his own. I don’t care enough to say anymore beyond this. Just my 2 cents.

Bless.
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Clone onlys are usually limited in existence and fetch for high value.
Lightgreen2k said:
Clearwater shouldn't have released and s1 of lumpy's work. Just to be clear if Lumpy is saying he never released anything, it would have been to be bag seed.
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Lumpy is in some huge warehouse. Maybe a worker stole it. How do you know what's bagseed and what's authentic???
 
Smokolotapotamus

Smokolotapotamus

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Jonny Lan said:
When did the rules change? They have always been the same to me at least. I see that I have to be VERY clear with you as you are missing the point. Gelato was not a general release that was made available to the public and S1 seeds made are not in any way unethical due to the fact it doesn’t take away anything from the breeder. The same thing goes for Girl Scout Cookies, Triangle Kush, The White and the list goes on. Now if someone like Copy Cat goes and makes S1’s of Donny Burger (Skunk House), LA Kush Cake (Seed Junky) or Frozay (Relentless) than that to me is messed up for multiple reasons.

1. It directly takes away from the breeders who actually put in the time and/or work to release said strain.

2. it causes confusion as bad results can come from the s1 and people smoking the flowers in the end market can mistakenly associate those negative traits with the original in turn ruining the potential for that work to get recognized appropriately. It also makes confusion for growers who are new and don’t know who the original breeder for certain strains are. Ex: noob jimmy tries wedding Cake in dispensary, loves it so much he decides to buy some seeds to try and grow it. He types in Wedding Cake seeds in his google browser and ends up finding Wedding Cake S1 by “insert R.I.P. off artist name here” resulting in the fore mentioned problems.

I mean at the end of the day people can do whatever they want. Just like how there is people who make fake Louis Vuitton bags and then people who also buy said fakes. To each his own. I don’t care enough to say anymore beyond this. Just my 2 cents.

Bless.
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Breeders are allowed to steal credit and work if the strain is clone only. Ok man, makes a lot of sense. Even though that dilutes the
Jonny Lan said:
When did the rules change? They have always been the same to me at least. I see that I have to be VERY clear with you as you are missing the point. Gelato was not a general release that was made available to the public and S1 seeds made are not in any way unethical due to the fact it doesn’t take away anything from the breeder. The same thing goes for Girl Scout Cookies, Triangle Kush, The White and the list goes on. Now if someone like Copy Cat goes and makes S1’s of Donny Burger (Skunk House), LA Kush Cake (Seed Junky) or Frozay (Relentless) than that to me is messed up for multiple reasons.

1. It directly takes away from the breeders who actually put in the time and/or work to release said strain.

2. it causes confusion as bad results can come from the s1 and people smoking the flowers in the end market can mistakenly associate those negative traits with the original in turn ruining the potential for that work to get recognized appropriately. It also makes confusion for growers who are new and don’t know who the original breeder for certain strains are. Ex: noob jimmy tries wedding Cake in dispensary, loves it so much he decides to buy some seeds to try and grow it. He types in Wedding Cake seeds in his google browser and ends up finding Wedding Cake S1 by “insert R.I.P. off artist name here” resulting in the fore mentioned problems.

I mean at the end of the day people can do whatever they want. Just like how there is people who make fake Louis Vuitton bags and then people who also buy said fakes. To each his own. I don’t care enough to say anymore beyond this. Just my 2 cents.

Bless.
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Bro. If sherbinski and cookie crew hold some elite cut. Limited cuts are out to the public. If some breeder makes an s1 of the cut, it dilutes the value of the cut and the packs. Your logic is so flawed and narrow. It's ok to s1 clone onlys, according to you. Because it's harmless. Lol it's not harmless, it dilutes the clone. Isn't that why cap is mad about mac1???

You literally make no sense. My argument is that all these rules are retarded. No rules. If you don't want someone using your work, don't release it, period.
 
Smokolotapotamus

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Vato_504 said:
Man you’re a clown a big joke. That’s why your coward ass never shows your face on them lives. You know you’re scamming dudes that don’t know no better. Try that shit with some real live wires and watch your clown bum ass get flushed down that toilet. You want people to believe you have the same cuts as the cookie fam and jungle boys yea fucking right. I hope you’re using a VPN because you’ll play with the wrong person money bum ass.
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kindnug

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I found a few seeds in some Tropicana cookies I bought awhile back, probably S1 considering cookies can herm with some stress.
Do you think bagseed that is most likely s1 is any different than copycat's S1's?

If his 8 tents have air movement + extraction/intake, and all in the same room. How would he know for sure pollen from one tent hasn't been sucked into another? Maybe he only used the same reversed variety in all tents?

The more I hear about this the more it seems very unprofessional...
 
Smokolotapotamus

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kindnug said:
I found a few seeds in some Tropicana cookies I bought awhile back, probably S1 considering cookies can herm with some stress.
Do you think bagseed that is most likely s1 is any different than copycat's S1's?

If his 8 tents have air movement + extraction/intake, and all in the same room. How would he know for sure pollen from one tent hasn't been sucked into another? Maybe he only used the same reversed variety in all tents?

The more I hear about this the more it seems very unprofessional...
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It could be s1 or it could be pollinated with another hermed strain inside the same room. You never know
 
Jonny Lan

Jonny Lan

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Smokolotapotamus said:
Breeders are allowed to steal credit and work if the strain is clone only. Ok man, makes a lot of sense. Even though that dilutes the



Bro. If sherbinski and cookie crew hold some elite cut. Limited cuts are out to the public. If some breeder makes an s1 of the cut, it dilutes the value of the cut and the packs. Your logic is so flawed and narrow. It's ok to s1 clone onlys, according to you. Because it's harmless. Lol it's not harmless, it dilutes the clone. Isn't that why cap is mad about mac1???

You literally make no sense. My argument is that all these rules are retarded. No rules. If you don't want someone using your work, don't release it, period.
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It’s apparent to me your knowledge on genetics is quite limited for if it were not you wouldn’t say that there were “limited cuts” made available to the public. Dude, firstly Gelato 33 was being whored out like nobodies business before Seed Junky Made s1’s and even if it wasn’t, they weren’t selling Gelato seeds like I’ve already said which is a crucial part in what makes a clone only. Secondly MAC is not a clone only so I don’t see where you are going with that.
 
Jonny Lan

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Vato_504 said:
Bro you know what’s crazy that he don’t know? The original copycat made gelato 33 S1’s before seedjunky.... He wouldn’t know that because he’s a real deal copycat and fraud
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Dude I didn’t even know that lmao! In my head if I was a noob I and didn’t know how much of a fraud copy cat was, I would be extremely cautious buying anything in any market from a guy named Copy Cat lmaooo
 
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I don’t have a dog in this fight just on different path but I am enjoying the conversations, knowledge and heated exchanges .

Appears vato called it out correct and this ole boy is the new copycat .I don’t know the politics or views of upper management on this site ,smokealotapotamus could get banned because of . If that’s not the case seems the logical big dick thing to do is pay the advertising fee (in support, millionaire money )start your own thread and let the games begin under your own banner and not hidden in an obscure thread w/a fugazi handle .
 
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kindnug

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Smokolotapotamus said:
It could be s1 or it could be pollinated with another hermed strain inside the same room. You never know
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It would be hard considering the entire grow was the same strain... You could say the same thing about this guys seeds considering he has 8 breeding tents in one area.
 
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