safe to use 4x 600 watt hps in 2 bed room house (UK)
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TruenoAE86coupe
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I am in the states so i really can't say, but i have to ask, how much are you paying per kw/h?
purplehays1
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i can tell you that with 4 600w's you will need them to be air cooled and will need them to be ported together with ducting and will need to use an exhaust fan to cool them.
phillipchristian
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If you can cool them without having to put an a/c in their then you should be fine. 2400w is about the same as a 2 ton a/c would use if you ran it all day. I always say anything under 3,000w of lighting and you are fine but I also don't live in the UK so I'm not sure how much they are watching and inspecting electrical usage.
2 tariffs here which are available please can anyone help, also i think i have a pre paid meter at new house i'm moving too, which the rates could slightly be more. There are two suppliers EON and BRITISH GAS
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TruenoAE86coupe
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That is a way confusing post, lets hope you end up with British Gas, it seems to be half of the cost of E-On.
How are you going to run your lights? 1 600 watt for veg, 3 for flower? Just as a reference for price.
From my initial review and a little math (i will show you how i got here if you would like) That with 1 veg 3 flower lights (18/6 for veg and 12/12 flower), you will be running about 85 pounds a month for the lighting part. You still have to account for: cooling, fans, actual ballast power loss, your normal household usage, and the service charges of having the service.
Based on their "average" monthly bill you will be a fair amount higher, at least 50% probably closer to 100%. So that very well may be enough to raise a red flag.
Here in the states we spend stupid amounts of money on things that use a stupids amount of electricity, ie hot tubs, tanning beds, salt water fish tanks, i could keep going, i don't know how common this type of stuff is in the UK, but could easily cost that much extra a month.
How are you going to run your lights? 1 600 watt for veg, 3 for flower? Just as a reference for price.
From my initial review and a little math (i will show you how i got here if you would like) That with 1 veg 3 flower lights (18/6 for veg and 12/12 flower), you will be running about 85 pounds a month for the lighting part. You still have to account for: cooling, fans, actual ballast power loss, your normal household usage, and the service charges of having the service.
Based on their "average" monthly bill you will be a fair amount higher, at least 50% probably closer to 100%. So that very well may be enough to raise a red flag.
Here in the states we spend stupid amounts of money on things that use a stupids amount of electricity, ie hot tubs, tanning beds, salt water fish tanks, i could keep going, i don't know how common this type of stuff is in the UK, but could easily cost that much extra a month.
SpunkyMonkey
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4x600wtt for 12 hours is the same as running your cooker for under 3 hours .... switch to takeaway food and you will be fineeeee 
Ive seen many 2bed houses in the uk running 6x 600wtt that have been running for 5+years, but never tryed myself
best way to cool would be to grow 2 systems 2x600wtt one off 1 on jobby an have a monthly rolling crop ( small cloning room )
Ive seen many 2bed houses in the uk running 6x 600wtt that have been running for 5+years, but never tryed myself
best way to cool would be to grow 2 systems 2x600wtt one off 1 on jobby an have a monthly rolling crop ( small cloning room )
djlifeline
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From some one who is in the UK and have plenty of the helicopter fly overs I would be panicking like fuck permanently. I would suggest tents. Venting tents to another room in house and AC that room. But that's a fuck load of heat. You be surprised. I wouldn't fancy moving that.
That's what i am planning to do 600 for veg 3x600 for flower 18/6 and 12/12 also these money eating stuff like sun beds are in uk too but not very common, british gas seems ok but like you said it's 50 % to 100 % morel leccy
SpunkyMonkey
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nasar, the size of the op you are wanting is not conciderd to large scale and you can cut the cost of electric by using new/digital ballests, Im currantly in a 1 bed house (NOT GROWING) and my electric bill is £40 per week due to heating/cooking and baths ..... if i choise to grow i exhust all the heat from the growroom into the house meaning i no longer have to run 3.8kw of heating, i eat out 5 nights a week ( treat yourself you should be able to afford it ) saying this if i run 2 x 600wtt my bill drops to around £25, and back up to £40 with a extra 1kw tent but that pays alot more then the restrant fee
so i guess what im trying to say is if you increase your electic just do something to reduce it,
yes ive seen many of 6x600wtt setups in 1 and 2 bedroom houses just dont steal the electic as that will get you busted quicker then the crop comes in
so i guess what im trying to say is if you increase your electic just do something to reduce it,
yes ive seen many of 6x600wtt setups in 1 and 2 bedroom houses
just dont steal the electic as that will get you busted quicker then the crop comes in