safer way to take mdma

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skittlesmcpp

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ive recently discovered this website that explains the main reasons taking mdma is so bad for you (neurotoxicity), and also a possible way to almost completely reduce the negative aspects of taking it, short and long term, including the neruotoxicity part.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_article3.shtml
That is the site, im not 100% on its credibility, but i looked into it a little and it says their sources are published literature, experts in their respective scientific fields, and the experiences of the general public, or so says wikipedia. Anyway they have some pretty interesting research in there and a definitely POSSIBLE way to take mdma safely, read and tell me what you think.
 
ginjawarrior

ginjawarrior

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skittlesmcpp said:
ive recently discovered this website that explains the main reasons taking mdma is so bad for you (neurotoxicity), and also a possible way to almost completely reduce the negative aspects of taking it, short and long term, including the neruotoxicity part.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_article3.shtml
That is the site, im not 100% on its credibility, but i looked into it a little and it says their sources are published literature, experts in their respective scientific fields, and the experiences of the general public, or so says wikipedia. Anyway they have some pretty interesting research in there and a definitely POSSIBLE way to take mdma safely, read and tell me what you think.
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erowid is a very good site to start researching nearly all drugs should be used by all of us
 
shepj

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
I didn't read the whole thing but it looks like it would make sense.

For you lazy guys:

Regimen 1

One dose just prior to use, one as effects wear off, and a third at 10-12 hours

5-HTP = 100 mg
Vitamin C = 1000 mg
Alpha Lipoic Acid = 250 mg

Regimen 2

One dose just prior to use and one dose as effects wear off.

5-HTP = 100 mg
Magnesium = 500 mg
Vitamin C = 1000 mg
Vitamin B6 = 100 mg
L-Tyrosine = 1000 mg
DLPA = 400 mg

"Please note that both regimens include 5- HTP. While 5-HTP is an anti-oxidant, it is also a direct precursor of serotonin. It's quite possible that the effectiveness of the regimens are the result of 5-HTP as a serotonin precursor.

Both L-Tyrosine and DLPA are dopamine precursors. Dopamine has been implicated in MDMA neurotoxicity and there are some concerns that they may do more harm than good.

It is also important to note that we have received many reports of ineffective supplement use. Given the current dataset, it's impossible to know what factors are responsible for differing reactions to MDMA and supplements."

Nice post skittlesmcpp, +rep
 
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skittlesmcpp

Member
shepj said:
I didn't read the whole thing but it looks like it would make sense.

For you lazy guys:

Regimen 1

One dose just prior to use, one as effects wear off, and a third at 10-12 hours

5-HTP = 100 mg
Vitamin C = 1000 mg
Alpha Lipoic Acid = 250 mg

Regimen 2

One dose just prior to use and one dose as effects wear off.

5-HTP = 100 mg
Magnesium = 500 mg
Vitamin C = 1000 mg
Vitamin B6 = 100 mg
L-Tyrosine = 1000 mg
DLPA = 400 mg

"Please note that both regimens include 5- HTP. While 5-HTP is an anti-oxidant, it is also a direct precursor of serotonin. It's quite possible that the effectiveness of the regimens are the result of 5-HTP as a serotonin precursor.

Both L-Tyrosine and DLPA are dopamine precursors. Dopamine has been implicated in MDMA neurotoxicity and there are some concerns that they may do more harm than good.

It is also important to note that we have received many reports of ineffective supplement use. Given the current dataset, it's impossible to know what factors are responsible for differing reactions to MDMA and supplements."

Nice post skittlesmcpp, +rep
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Are all those things vitamins/ supplements?
 
ndangerspecimen101

ndangerspecimen101

Well-Known Member
skittlesmcpp said:
Are all those things vitamins/ supplements?
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Again, erowid is probably the most legitimate website you can go rely on to tell you: how much to take, how long does it last, the come-up, peak, plateau, comedown effects of any drug you can possibly think of. Its my bible when it comes to drug safety and awareness.

Yes, those are vitamins, antioxidants, and precursors to very important neurotransmitters!
 
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skittlesmcpp

Member
so no one still told me their opinions, does taking these supplements actualy work, as far as making mdma even slightly less harmful?
 
ndangerspecimen101

ndangerspecimen101

Well-Known Member
skittlesmcpp said:
so no one still told me their opinions, does taking these supplements actualy work, as far as making mdma even slightly less harmful?
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If you do a little bit of research you'll definitely find out that these supplements will potentiate and even protect against neuro-toxicity!

...also make sure your pills are clean and not filled with methamphetamine... neuro-toxicity is higher at these kind of circumstances.
 
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