Safer with bush as president?

Operation 420

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The 9/11 terrorists were in flight training before they even knew Bush would be elected. If Gore was elected instead you think they would've said, " Oh, Gore got elected guys, lets call off the attack". Or what about the first World Trade Center bombing, the U.S.S. Cole attack and the embassy bombings that happened under Clintons watch? Clinton did nothing about it and we, what, wait, oh yeah, got attacked again!!!

If we get attacked under Obama's watch, I bet the liberals will still blame it on Bush.

We need to have an I.Q. test for people before they're eligible to vote, because we have some seriously mentally challenged people in the U.S.
 

budsmoker87

New Member
"terrorism" doesn't exist....just a small group of elitist assholes who pull all the strings in government. Isn't this obvious now?

the only "terrorists" there are, are in the white house...and no it doesn't matter WHO the puppet in charge is...obama, bush, whatever. they're bought and paid for
 

budsmoker87

New Member
instill FEAR in people and they'll look toward their leaders for answers...if their leaders grant them safety, even at the cost of liberty, they will oblige if they're truely scared for their own safety/security.

get it through every last thick skull of people who can't seem to wrap their minds around this
 

smilingbigfoot

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If by 'lifestyle' you mean our standard of living, then why is it that those with similar standards of living still hate us? And trust me, Bush, specifically is HATED abroad. At least in my experience (and I travel a LOT).
some one always has to take the blame most of those countries sent forces into Iraq or Afganistan with the us . they blame bush not there own countries government.
 

smilingbigfoot

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instill FEAR in people and they'll look toward their leaders for answers...if their leaders grant them safety, even at the cost of liberty, they will oblige if they're truely scared for their own safety/security.

get it through every last thick skull of people who can't seem to wrap their minds around this
your right after 9/11 people thought the patriot act was the greatest think in the world. but all it does is strip freedom from the people
 

Operation 420

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instill FEAR in people and they'll look toward their leaders for answers...if their leaders grant them safety, even at the cost of liberty, they will oblige if they're truely scared for their own safety/security.

get it through every last thick skull of people who can't seem to wrap their minds around this
This administration is using fear to push their agenda also. They use our economic problems as an excuse to push through bills that aren't even read over.

Not sure who said it, but there was a quote something to the effect of " We shouldn't waste an opportunity to take advantage of a catastrophe"

And that's exactly what they're doing. Taking advantage of the financial state this country is in to make the ultimate power grab.
 

Mcgician

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This administration is using fear to push their agenda also. They use our economic problems as an excuse to push through bills that aren't even read over.

Not sure who said it, but there was a quote something to the effect of " We shouldn't waste an opportunity to take advantage of a catastrophe"

And that's exactly what they're doing. Taking advantage of the financial state this country is in to make the ultimate power grab.
+1 :clap:......
 

Parker

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to be honest I hate the government as much as the next dude. but were not hated because of our government were hated because of our life style.
That statement is incorrect. Michael Scheuer the former head of the Bin Laden unit at the CIA gave these reasons in the CIA report.

The ability to control the price of oil
Unqualified support for Israel
Presence on the Arabian Peninsula
Military presence in Muslim countries
Support for governments that are viewed across the world as oppressing Muslims - Russia in Chechnya, India in Kashmir
Fifty year plus support of Arab police states and Tyrannies
 

mexiblunt

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some one always has to take the blame most of those countries sent forces into Iraq or Afganistan with the us . they blame bush not there own countries government.
Exactly! Remeber when bush said your either with "us" or against"us". He was speaking for america. I'm a canadian and this post just shows exactly what some of us are saying. Why do the"terrorists" hate america anyway? Hmmm. I didn't want to go to afganistan. I blame my own county for being there but also understand their hands are tied.
 

mexiblunt

Well-Known Member
That statement is incorrect. Michael Scheuer the former head of the Bin Laden unit at the CIA gave these reasons in the CIA report.

The ability to control the price of oil
Unqualified support for Israel
Presence on the Arabian Peninsula
Military presence in Muslim countries
Support for governments that are viewed across the world as oppressing Muslims - Russia in Chechnya, India in Kashmir
Fifty year plus support of Arab police states and Tyrannies
Seems about right to me. You know I was looking at the F.B.I most wanted list the other day and bin-laden isn't even wanted for the 911 attacks!!! Seems they don't even have enough evidence to say for sure that he was behind it.
 

polar

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I think what pisses people off is that they want the government to either stick to their word and help the people in need in the Middle East because of altruistic reasons, or quit the bullshit, and just attack them and reap the benefits or war, which we don't seem to be reaping yet.
I'm by no means politically inclined, and personally think the world would be better off if people woke up to a doobie every morning and not worry about invading other countries or having to defend from invasions, etc... If only we'd just get along... White, Black, Brown, Yellow, it's not gonna matter when the Green guys come down in their UFOs Independence Day style! hehe... j/k... but seriously, hopefully one day we will learn that the Earth is like a spaceship with limited resources floating in space, and unless we find a way to balance resources with population size, we're gonna be fighting each other and making matters worse. Detonating a Nuke in the middle east isn't good for America. Why? even though we might get oil and money which leads to more food and resources for Americans, WE ALL BREATHE THE SAME AIR, DRINK THE SAME WATER, AND SHIT THE SAME FOOD! The key is SUSTAINABILITY!!! Just like with perpetual grows, right :) )


peace :weed:
 

Rob Roy

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Define "safe". The United States aggresses against more countries than any other country in the history of the world.
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What about the Roman Empire?
The Romans barely made it out of Europe...the U.S. has over 700 bases in 130 odd countries. Proportionately I'd agree the Romans fucked with alot of people in the known world though.

One thing both empires share, bread and circuses, figureatively anyway.
 

jfgordon1

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The only government/people i'm scared of is,ironically, the very country i live in. False flags seem to be The American Way these days. Bush.. Obama... it's all the same.

Investigative journalist Wayne Madsen in the US claims American intelligence sent Afghan mercenaries into Iraq, in order to attack the country's civilians and military personnel.
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(put this in another thread, however, felt i needed to share this again)
 

jrh72582

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The Romans barely made it out of Europe...the U.S. has over 700 bases in 130 odd countries. Proportionately I'd agree the Romans fucked with alot of people in the known world though.

One thing both empires share, bread and circuses, figureatively anyway.
False. The Romans made it well into Africa and Asia. Compared to the total land that was known to exist, the Romans conquered a great portion of it. I'd say we're proportionately similar to the Romans in our global reach, considering the times. I think the parallels between the two empires are uncanny. And consider how young we are as a country. It's kinda scary.
 

TheBrutalTruth

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False. The Romans made it well into Africa and Asia. Compared to the total land that was known to exist, the Romans conquered a great portion of it. I'd say we're proportionately similar to the Romans in our global reach, considering the times. I think the parallels between the two empires are uncanny. And consider how young we are as a country. It's kinda scary.
Maybe we'll get lucky and have a Sulla and no Caesar.
 
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