Safety first

chewberto said:

Seriously? Guess that bic lighter with nasty less refined butane is better? Or hemp wick all the time?

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I always say this same thing, how much can you complain about BHO when you are using a butane lighter to light the flowers, and sucking the carcinogens directly through the pipe? I suck down a pack of bics a month or so, if i was dabbing instead i probably would have inhaled less butane.

TruenoAE86coupe said:

I always say this same thing, how much can you complain about BHO when you are using a butane lighter to light the flowers, and sucking the carcinogens directly through the pipe? I suck down a pack of bics a month or so, if i was dabbing instead i probably would have inhaled less butane.

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That is a lot of bics.

I guess the hemp wick really does cut down on lighter usage.

I rock about 1 bic every month, and it is usually because I lost one. Hemp wick on bongs and a torch on nails, always a good deal.
But I am an ex-cigarette smoker of 13 years, so I tend to not smoke anything that is harmful anymore...No BHO (Iso-hash oil instead) or Tobacco, and everything is smoked through water. You'd be amazed at how much it saves your throat if you smoke a good amount daily.

Funny to read your post about inhaling clean while looking at TheDude avatar, inhaling a live roach.
I just watched that movie again last week, The Dude abides. So if I use a hemp wick, do I light it from a lighter each time I want to hit the bong? I suppose a candle, but I fucking hate candles because of the whole idea of an open flame inside a house, just bad juju.

Ahhh, the good ole butane controversy.

If it were at all possible to get the same relief from my pain from ice water extractions, I would choose good ole bubble hash.

But, the fact remains that the essential oil within the cannabis plant is where the true” medicine” is located.

I've got a few family members that actually HAD the same exact opinion..

” It tastes bad, hurts my lungs and pinches my throat”

But, once they dabbed my shatter...they quickly changed their perspective..

They are able to hold in rather large dabs, and say...

” Whoa, wow!.. So smooth..uh..I'm the highest I've ever been”

I promise you, I would not put my health at further risk utilizing bho, unless I've done my homework.

I've seen quite a few GC/MS reports proving the residual solvent is diminished beyond detection.(not mine, can't afford that shit, haha)

And, please do not judge bho if you've only tried product from dispensaries, or vendors...I'd go out and say at least 80% of bho sold in shops is a crime, very very under-purged.

N-Butane is a natural occurring gas, and you are actually taking some in your lungs each time you take a breath.

Ethyl mercaptans are nasty, nasty compounds, but do not populate the better brands of butane..

Propellants can be removed with simple heat-purge, but change up the atmospheric pressure to about -29 hg..by degassing in a chamber, and the propellants, mercaptans, and N-butane, iso-butane, and propane all leave the oleoresin matrix.

We could further refine, through winterization and cold filtration to remove the abundant levels of plant-fats, lipids and wax.

But, we smoke carcinogenic flowers, with a straight butane supply through our bic lighter with zero issues?

Smoking improperly made ice water hash could possibly be worse for you than slightly under-purged bho, Mold spores will be silent until you get sick.

All this being said, if I could achieve the same effectiveness with bubble as I can with bho...I would choose bubble without a doubt.

Edit: My absolute favorite comment was from my bro-in-law, who works at a dispensary that sells quite a bit of bho, made by Colorado Concentrates, one of the larger vendors in Colorado.

” dude, I hate that shit, my boss tries to give me that all the time, it hurts too much”

Dabbed my shatter.

” wow bro, how the hell?..would you teach me?...

Sirdabsalot462 said:

I've seen quite a few GC/MS reports proving the residual solvent is diminished beyond detection.(not mine, can't afford that shit, haha)

And, please do not judge bho if you've only tried product from dispensaries, or vendors...I'd go out and say at least 80% of bho sold in shops is a crime, very very under-purged.

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This is my point, brother. Unless you have the $$$, you are smoking BHO, whether it be because you got it from a shop, or because you can't afford a good pump.

I bet you make the BEST, most SMOOTH shatter ever, that has ZERO bho in it. But in no way could I afford buying that off of you. Or producing it for that matter. It all comes down to healthy smoking is expensive unless you keep bho completely out of the equation.

Iso is faster for me to make, and I have no worry in my mind about contaminants. ALL IMO

Sirdabsalot462 said:

carcinogenic flowers

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Organic flowers are in no way carcinogenic. Not sure were this came from. They are practically the opposite. Using Cannabis causes cell death in cancer cells.

I must have worded that incorrectly Mid...

I wasn't actually calling flowers in of themselves being carcinogenic.

But when combusted with a bic lighter, and sucked through a pipe, filled with cannabis resin from combustion.

Sorry about that cannabis, didn't mean it...lol

Sirdabsalot462 said:

I must have worded that incorrectly Mid...

I wasn't actually calling flowers in of themselves being carcinogenic.

But when combusted with a bic lighter, and sucked through a pipe, filled with cannabis resin from combustion.

Sorry about that cannabis, didn't mean it...lol

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Yeah, I think a lot of people forget that they consistently suck down on lighters, until someone brings it up.
But from what I have seen as of recent, most are dabbing or vaping anyways, lol.

Have a stoney night my friend...

420circuit said:

Funny to read your post about inhaling clean while looking at TheDude avatar, inhaling a live roach.

I just watched that movie again last week, The Dude abides. So if I use a hemp wick, do I light it from a lighter each time I want to hit the bong? I suppose a candle, but I fucking hate candles because of the whole idea of an open flame inside a house, just bad juju.

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LOL, indeed. I mean, I stay as clean as possible, but I do smoke shatter here and there as well as joints, blunts and pipes.
I just try to limit non-water related smoking. But yeah, for whatever reason I do always seem to have a candle lit near-by. But, I do have cats, and "apple-cinnamon" smells a hell of a lot better than cat terd. LOL!

If not, I usually have some wick wrapped around my lighter, so that works too.

Hmmmm, bad juju. I could see that.

All I have to say is...

chewberto said:

All I have to say is...

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LOL! Gave me a chuckle.

I dab my good sir.

I dab home grown/made iso-hash oil.

(Pictured is reclaim oil, lol but you get the idea...that is my rig, titanium nail, dabber.)

LOL!

Mid!...dayuum bro... I must admit, my rig usually looks like yours, but...

Clean that rig bro!!.....

haha, awesome

Sirdabsalot462 said:

LOL!

Mid!...dayuum bro... I must admit, my rig usually looks like yours, but...

Clean that rig bro!!.....

haha, awesome

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LOL! Good call on that one, brother.

What do you do with your reclaim, SDA? Edibles, dabs? (I have heard good things about reclaim edibles) Or do you even bother?
Just curious, seeing as you are a daily dabber.

Yes, I use iso to collect my claim Mid...99% only, as reclaim is obviously soaked with water already..lol

Then I collect enough to make cookies with.

Talk about a good nights sleep...whoa..reclaim cookies..

I'd be wasting a lot of useable material...

I spray...but it is on a budget...haha.

Seriously , I wasted a LOT of money learning to do this shit, but now I've found a very economical way to keep producing my own product.

I simply use small amounts of bubble hash mixed with a bit of flower..and I'm having the best scrapes I've every had with this new method, and sooooo cheap.

I actually only use a Mity-Vac hand pump, and a mason jar now...

Having the best results ever...better than when my 120$ pump was working and I was spraying 60$ worth of top shelf flowers.

Can't believe how much money I've wasted...oh well..

Sirdabsalot462 said:

Yes, I use iso to collect my claim Mid...99% only, as reclaim is obviously soaked with water already..lol

Then I collect enough to make cookies with.

Talk about a good nights sleep...whoa..reclaim cookies..

I'd be wasting a lot of useable material...

I spray...but it is on a budget...haha.

Seriously , I wasted a LOT of money learning to do this shit, but now I've found a very economical way to keep producing my own product.

I simply use small amounts of bubble hash mixed with a bit of flower..and I'm having the best scrapes I've every had with this new method, and sooooo cheap.

I actually only use a Mity-Vac hand pump, and a mason jar now...

Having the best results ever...better than when my 120$ pump was working and I was spraying 60$ worth of top shelf flowers.

Can't believe how much money I've wasted...oh well..

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I usually just dab it during the day because, well, I enjoy smoking product more than ingesting it, (Because of the high produced) How much reclaim oil do you think you would need to make a stellar batch of edibles? Because using edibles as a sleep-aid is WHERE IT'S AT! LOL.

That IS pretty awesome that you can still blast on a budget...and produce quality oils. A mity-vac and a mason jar? Very nice, my man.

For me it is a matter of having no job at all. LMAO, so the budget is slimer than slim. But one day I will get the ball rolling on a good setup to make shatter, it will just take time and money.

Pretty awesome that you found a super cheap method that works for you, and produces good yields.

Basically one giant dab per cookie..I would say about .2 maybe.3

.5 and you'll sleep solid 9 hours and wake up stoned...haha

Edit: I forget what specific cannabinoid...but I'm fairly sure it's CBN

Reclaim is super rich in it though.

Sirdabsalot462 said:

Basically one giant dab per cookie..I would say about .2 maybe.3

.5 and you'll sleep solid 9 hours and wake up stoned...haha

Edit: I forget what specific cannabinoid...but I'm fairly sure it's CBN

Reclaim is super rich in it though.

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Is it converted from the heat and wash cycle?

^ I believe that is correct...once the oil hits the nail...THCA THCV---> cbn.

Delta 9 drops significantly, so minimal psychoactive effect, but a sleepy, sleepy effect.

Wow drunk bible study finspermy is lameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Wtf hes a trip