Salvia

RastaPanda said:

i only did it once and i dont think i did it right or something cuzz it didnt really do anything but make me laugh
and it was supposed to be really good

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I had that happen with non-standardized. What kinda salvia did you have?

for real guys, brand is key with salvia.

%MiSTuRBoMbDiGgItty% said:

Well I know of dude's that have run in front of cars breaking free from the "baby sitter" my friend pulled a gun on his brother cuz he thought he was being robbed at the time... My mom told me I I swung at her yelling "get away bitch I'll kill you" and thats so not me. I'm a acid baby I used to fry all the time with friends and that group of friends feels the same way as me that shit is not safe and not cool. Unless you want to do some spirit searching stay away ESPECIALLY if you are weak minded...

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Tripping with a gun? And near traffic? This may be darwinism at work... you're right though, it is more of a spiritual thing rather than a recreation. I'm an atheist and I still feel like I'm having a spiritual experience when I smoke salvia.

Tsolrathe said:

Tripping with a gun? And near traffic? This may be darwinism at work... you're right though, it is more of a spiritual thing rather than a recreation. I'm an atheist and I still feel like I'm having a spiritual experience when I smoke salvia.

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I don't know about spiritual vs recreational, the fuck should have had a sitter and had his guns away.

For fucks sake I always wanted to experience this but couldn't. I ordered 80x from IAmShaman a while ago, used a butane torch like it told me to, held it in for 40 seconds like it told me to, and all I got was a headache and a feeling of uneasiness. I didn't feel close to shit, especially not god.

Ganjatopolis said:

For fucks sake I always wanted to experience this but couldn't. I ordered 80x from IAmShaman a while ago, used a butane torch like it told me to, held it in for 40 seconds like it told me to, and all I got was a headache and a feeling of uneasiness. I didn't feel close to shit, especially not god.

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Like someone else said in the thread, don't trust anything above around 40x. So you might have gotten ripped off.

To whoever said they had 160x, you're a moron.

I've tried it b4. Nothing special. Had a whole ounce. Smoked a lot of it and got basically nothing. Wasn't worth the money.

I think certain people are more suceptible to it. I wish I was. I kno I didn't get ripped off either because a guy I know used the same stuff I was using and he freaked out and locked up for a good 5 minutes.

From what I've ready and experienced, the circumstances you're in when you smoke it matters a lot.. anything like loud noises, movement, or even lyrics from a song can keep you grounded in reality. You should be in a dark room, with nothing going on, except maybe some non-lyrical music.

Its hard for me to imagine people not tripping off of salvia extract. I understand smoking/chewing/eating a lot of leaves and that not gettin' off the ground. Every time I've done salvia (more than 10, less than 30), I just did one bong rip of some 20x. One bong rip would make me think the room was alive and eating me, or that I was a bottle of dish soap. I've heard voices, I've seen walls look tall n' dark, and doorways shrink. Each time I was in a similar setting...somewhere in my house, with roommate in the basement. Almost always I was by myself and it was the middle of the afternoon and some music playing.

If there are people that get actual 20x, bong it, and don't get fucked up then they should submit their bodies to science for further testing.

Salvia doesn't effect all people period.

Also, salvia is reverse tolerant, the more frequent and higher amounts you smoke (or ingest to be honest), will result in your tolerance getting lower, hence, the effects stronger.

Sometimes, it takes people 3-4 times of smoking salvia to even get a trip! So if it didn't work at first, get a reputable brand's salvia, and try it a few more times.

"If there are people that get actual 20x, bong it, and don't get fucked up then they should submit their bodies to science for further testing."

5 minutes of googling could've saved this remark.

It's funny to think that an Atypical Psychedelic would be the same for one person as it is the other... psychedelics are hard enough to tell someone who has never done them what a trip will be like, so how can you predict the effects of an Atypical Psychedelic?

I'll admit I should have added some caveats. I should have been more specific in saying, "If there are people that get actual, reputable 20x, bong it multiple times, and don't get fucked up within with the first 5 separate occasions then they should sumit their bodies to science."

Seriously, wouldn't you like to know why some trip like crazy on their first bong rip, while other people supposedly try multiple times with reliable extract and nothing happens? Salvia moves very fast into, and out of the brain, but it still binds to receptors used for pain. As far as I know everyone has these unless they are born with some rare genetic diseases.

ps- why google when I can get better answers from you? =)

Everyone does have the necessary receptors for Salvia to bind. Now, I am not sure why salvia doesn't effect everyone, but I have a handful of people that I know (along with having read this from various websites) that salvia doesn't effect every person who uses it, this is beyond my knowledge of chemistry and biology so I won't even venture a guess as to why this happens.

I use salvia maybe 6 times a year now. I used to do it almost every other day. It is definately a mind/soul bender. I've had out-of-body experiences, heard music in my head, and saw inanimate objects writhe with life. Not for the manic, the depressed, or the God fearing.

davalaban said:

I use salvia maybe 6 times a year now. I used to do it almost every other day. It is definately a mind/soul bender. I've had out-of-body experiences, heard music in my head, and saw inanimate objects writhe with life. Not for the manic, the depressed, or the God fearing.

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lol that's a pretty accurate summary, especially the last part.