Same problem every time need input please.

LOLLIFUKU

LOLLIFUKU

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Hi everyone, so this problem I'm having seems to be a common occurance. Everything is fine then all of a sudden the leaves hate life.
I don't feed any bottled nutes, it's either amendments via top dressing or compost tea.
any help would be appreciated if you could tell me what the problem here is.
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LOLLIFUKU

LOLLIFUKU

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30% perlite, half FFOC, half Strawberry Fields, 3gallon pots, 6.1ph water, and I water about every four days. I try to wait until the plants are pretty dry but now they're sucking up more water so I'm watering them more. I have only fed them a few times with compost tea and top dressed the soil once so far.
I would think they're only a few weeks from harvest
 
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Wayne55

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LOLLIFUKU said:
compost tea and amendments are worm castings seabird guano, kelp and molasses
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Good extra info

Wait for more replies is what I'll start with because they're a lot more experienced growers on here than myself.

It looks like a calcium deficiency to me however a picture of the whole plant would give a better idea of how much time your plants have left.

Fixes in soil can take a week or two so it may not make sense to try and fix this.
 
Dank Bongula

Dank Bongula

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Calcium can get locked out at too low of a pH...in soil, mix up your range from 6.3-7 when you water. You may wanna do a few on the higher side just to help swing your soil pH back up a little. One change at a time.
 
LOLLIFUKU

LOLLIFUKU

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Thanks for the reply's everyone. One change at a time.
I'm just trying to figure out what I need to do to be more successful in future grows.
I'll try raising PH first I think
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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LOLLIFUKU said:
Thanks for the reply's everyone. One change at a time.
I'm just trying to figure out what I need to do to be more successful in future grows.
I'll try raising PH first I think
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I think it may have more to do with you effort to make super soil
I would start there and use a medium that has no additives
 
raggyb

raggyb

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correct me if I'm wrong but I don't see any K in your top dress. also agree look into camg sources and mychos for next time. just an opin, I'm just a city boy.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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How much of that guano did you topdress with? It's nothing but phosphorus and calcium. You have plenty of calcium from the guano. You have to feed a balanced meal that includes nitrogen, potassium, and all the other secondary and trace elements. You can't just dump a bunch of P and Ca into 3 gallon pots and not expect to have nutrient issues. Your soil is all out of whack. It's too late to do really do anything. Those leaves are more than likely going to get worse no matter what you do. The last thing you need to do is add anything else. Just limp to the finish line and don't make the same mistakes next time.
 
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Wayne55

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Herb & Suds said:
Over feeding , irregular watering schedule , changing PH , Relative humidity , kinda hard to decide where to start but my best guess
DOING TO MUCH TO YOUR PLANT every time
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xtsho said:
How much of that guano did you topdress with? It's nothing but phosphorus and calcium. You have plenty of calcium from the guano. You have to feed a balanced meal that includes nitrogen, potassium, and all the other secondary and trace elements. You can't just dump a bunch of P and Ca into 3 gallon pots and not expect to have nutrient issues. Your soil is all out of whack. It's too late to do really do anything. Those leaves are more than likely going to get worse no matter what you do. The last thing you need to do is add anything else. Just limp to the finish line and don't make the same mistakes next time.
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Some day I won't have to give the warning "wait for more responses", today is not that day.

Today I learned guano is primarily phosphorus and calcium. Learning is good too
 
xtsho

xtsho

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Wayne55 said:
Some day I won't have to give the warning "wait for more responses", today is not that day.

Today I learned guano is primarily phosphorus and calcium. Learning is good too
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It's not just that simple. There are different guano's. The OP is using Seabird Guano. There is also Bat Guano which has nitrogen, phosphorus, and potassium. Different diets, different poop and stuff in it.
 
mudballs

mudballs

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LOLLIFUKU said:
30% perlite, half FFOC, half Strawberry Fields, 3gallon pots, 6.1ph water, and I water about every four days. I try to wait until the plants are pretty dry but now they're sucking up more water so I'm watering them more. I have only fed them a few times with compost tea and top dressed the soil once so far.
I would think they're only a few weeks from harvest
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sounds like you've exhausted all the nutrients from the soil. those aren't nutrient dense soils, you're mid flower, and have you ever seen the rootball out of a late stage 3gal? idk which nutrient it is deficient in, but at some point it needed more of something and that 3gal of nutrient depleted soil didn't have anymore. a full third of your soil is useless perlite, so take whatever nutrients you did have and cut that by a third. Just gotta find out which nutrient it is that needs to be supplemented. don't need this whole song and dance changing stuff.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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mudballs said:
sounds like you've exhausted all the nutrients from the soil. those aren't nutrient dense soils, you're mid flower, and have you ever seen the rootball out of a late stage 3gal? idk which nutrient it is deficient in, but at some point it needed more of something and that 3gal of nutrient depleted soil didn't have anymore. a full third of your soil is useless perlite, so take whatever nutrients you did have and cut that by a third. Just gotta find out which nutrient it is that needs to be supplemented. don't need this whole song and dance changing stuff.
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Not enough of something and too much of something else. The soil is all out of balance.

There isn't really any comeback with this particular grow but they can improve in the future and feed the plant properly instead of just amending with a high P and Ca amendment. A small amount of 4-4-4 with micronutrients as a topdressing instead of the seabird guano and those plants would look entirely different and the OP probably wouldn't have needed to make a post asking what's wrong with their plants.
 
DCcan

DCcan

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LOLLIFUKU said:
I'm just trying to figure out what I need to do to be more successful in future grows.
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All that amending, topping, composting, that's more fun outdoors than inside.

That's the advantage of learning in coco or peat based medium> correct npk, right EC levels, right PH, high drainage, easy to correct and diagnose.
Watch your plants needs, keep the numbers in the right place, all the thinking and problems go away.

Just get a water report, a calendar for notes, some decent meters and seeds, and simple nutes, regular basics (Up n Down, calmag, Silica, etc..)
Then environmental controls need to be in place> lights, fans, temp, humidity, IPM.
 
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