Samsung H series strips, Arrow seems to be blowing them out! what a deal!

haze010

haze010

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I built 750watts of lights with samsung H series strips about 3 years ago when diy strip building was quite new and quantum boards had just came out. They have been fantastic for me and very satisfied with them. I am expanding my space and started looking at current led options, quantum boards, chinese knock off builds ect.

It seems arrow is currently selling the exact same strips i paid over $10USD per strip for $1.35 a strip in 3000k and $0.69 a strip in 4000k. The other color temps are still in the $10+USD per strip range, not sure why 3k and 4k are so much cheaper. I had only intended on buying a few for a veg light but with that pricing i couldnt resist and bought enough for 900watts of flowering LMAO. There was only 100 3k left and i bought 54 of them so act fast if you want the deal, 4k they have 1700+

Anyway here are the links,
https://www.arrow.com/en/products/si-b8v11156hus/samsung-electronics for 3k
https://www.arrow.com/en/products/si-b8t11156hus/samsung-electronics for 4k.

Now i just need to decide drivers and get a build going.
 
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metic

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nice i bought "100" of the 50w double row samsung strips for $2.80 each the other day, they were severely under-priced so i couldn't pass up the chance to buy a bunch of em, just had a look at these ones you have here, they are the single row strips that use around 11w ea, still an extremely good price for these though!
 
haze010

haze010

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The H series are fantasic, they are the exact same diodes as the F series but there are less on a strip. The deal you got was great but currently those are $20+ a strip, i was trying to let ppl know who missed the one you snagged. You got 144 diodes a strip for $2.80, these are 48 diodes a strip for $0.69 in 4k and $1.36 in 3k. Unfortunately i missed the deal you got, this one is pretty damn close tho (and actually better in 4k temp).

They are not an 11watt a strip though. The lights ive been running for 3 years are 9 of those strips off a HLG-120H-C700B in series for a total of 150watts or 16.6 a strip if you will. I have 4 of those in a 4x4 tent and its fantastic. That is me actually running them soft so i dont have a heatsink at all, many people run them over 20 watts a strip with aluminum angle backing as a heatsink.

LEDgardener actually has a build guide for
24 x Samsung 2foot h series with
1x Mean Well HLG-480H-24A Driver
wired in parallell for 500watts.
Thats 21w a strip.

Thats 500 watts of samsung 561c strips and driver for under $165 USD. Add a bit more expense for a frame and wiring but i dont think you will find a better DIY deal right now.

Just making sure people dont discount them because they were an older strip model, they are the same as the F but less diodes per strip.

Edit: the embedded link i had on strips was the wrong one.
 
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babybud

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There are about a dozen different strips all under $1. I ordered a few different ones to play around with since I got a 320w driver on ebay for 30 bucks. My order was sitting with a status of waiting for usps to pick up then magically got picked up once I messaged their support, so I would keep an eye on that so your package does not end up sitting for 3-4 days.

All the strips seem to run at least 50c so I am pretty sure some sort of heatsink will be needed. Flat bar, U channel, or even heatsinkusa strips all seem to be at minimum $2.50-3.00 a strip if not more. I was doing browsing last night and found 4ft aluminum track light strips $1 a piece with free shipping. I plan to remove the guts, sand off the paint, then cut them in half to make. Here is a link but you can find other retailers by doing a google search with the part #.

Progress Lighting P9054-31 LED Black 48" Track - - Amazon.com

Progress Lighting P9054-31 LED Black 48" Track - - Amazon.com
www.amazon.com

Everyone seems to push Wago brand around here but you can get 100 push in connectors at lowes for $7-8.

The only thing I haven't ordered yet is heatsink paste/tape. I haven't decided which product to order but either way the cheapest options seem to run about $15 to cover 20 2ft strips. If anyone has any input I'd appreciate it. I understand AS5 is the best but it isn't cheap and does not fit in with this budget build.

In the end I should have a 2'x5' light pushing 320w for under $100 with materials left over for a 2nd build. I'll hopefully have everything by Saturday so I will post an update once everything is assembled. I have a multi meter and flir camera but may order a ppfd meter to test things out since I will be building 3-4 different light set ups. Anyone have experience with some of the cheaper meters? Not sure I can justify spending $150-200 on one.
 
haze010

haze010

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He said he did the build i mentioned, heres the guide list at ledgardener.

ledgardener.com

DIY LED Strip Build Designs for Samsung H-Series, F-Series, Q-Series, and Bridgelux EB Gen.2 - LED Gardener

DIY LED strip builds have become very popular recently. The mid-power section of our forum is full of threads created by DIYers looking to build their own custom lights, and new builds and ideas are surfacing every day. If you don’t live somewhere where you have easy access to premade lights...
ledgardener.com

His is the one thats under 4x4 builds for H series im pretty sure.

Mine i followed a guide elsewhere i cant find right now, mine were in series and done in a more modular way so it was four seperate lights i could move to different spaces. For a 4x4 tent tho id do prawns build for sure.
 
haze010

haze010

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babybud said:
There are about a dozen different strips all under $1. I ordered a few different ones to play around with since I got a 320w driver on ebay for 30 bucks. My order was sitting with a status of waiting for usps to pick up then magically got picked up once I messaged their support, so I would keep an eye on that so your package does not end up sitting for 3-4 days.

All the strips seem to run at least 50c so I am pretty sure some sort of heatsink will be needed. Flat bar, U channel, or even heatsinkusa strips all seem to be at minimum $2.50-3.00 a strip if not more. I was doing browsing last night and found 4ft aluminum track light strips $1 a piece with free shipping. I plan to remove the guts, sand off the paint, then cut them in half to make. Here is a link but you can find other retailers by doing a google search with the part #.

Progress Lighting P9054-31 LED Black 48" Track - - Amazon.com

Progress Lighting P9054-31 LED Black 48" Track - - Amazon.com
www.amazon.com

Everyone seems to push Wago brand around here but you can get 100 push in connectors at lowes for $7-8.

The only thing I haven't ordered yet is heatsink paste/tape. I haven't decided which product to order but either way the cheapest options seem to run about $15 to cover 20 2ft strips. If anyone has any input I'd appreciate it. I understand AS5 is the best but it isn't cheap and does not fit in with this budget build.

In the end I should have a 2'x5' light pushing 320w for under $100 with materials left over for a 2nd build. I'll hopefully have everything by Saturday so I will post an update once everything is assembled. I have a multi meter and flir camera but may order a ppfd meter to test things out since I will be building 3-4 different light set ups. Anyone have experience with some of the cheaper meters? Not sure I can justify spending $150-200 on one.
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No disrespect, but those are a far cry from samsung 561c diodes. There are hundreds of grow journals showing how fantastic they are, everything quantum board is those 561c diodes and i am a mediocre casual grower and ive gotten almost 2g/watt with little effort or skill.
 
Prawn Connery

Prawn Connery

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Dilago said:
I need that in my life!

So you built that lamp with the strips mentioned in the openingpost?
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Yes, they are the exact same strips.

Technically they are a 30W strip: LM561C is 3V at 200mA x 8 in series (24V) x 6 in parallel (1.2A) = 28.8W.

I had both those frames wired to a HLG-320-48A driver for around 345W, which was running those LM561Cs at 50% of their maximum rating (100mA each) mounted on some 40mm x 25mm x 3mm U-channel.
 
Prawn Connery

Prawn Connery

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haze010 said:
He said he did the build i mentioned, heres the guide list at ledgardener.

ledgardener.com

DIY LED Strip Build Designs for Samsung H-Series, F-Series, Q-Series, and Bridgelux EB Gen.2 - LED Gardener

DIY LED strip builds have become very popular recently. The mid-power section of our forum is full of threads created by DIYers looking to build their own custom lights, and new builds and ideas are surfacing every day. If you don’t live somewhere where you have easy access to premade lights...
ledgardener.com

His is the one thats under 4x4 builds for H series im pretty sure.

Mine i followed a guide elsewhere i cant find right now, mine were in series and done in a more modular way so it was four seperate lights i could move to different spaces. For a 4x4 tent tho id do prawns build for sure.
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Mine is half of that build – 12 strips instead of 24 – and I wired them in series and parallel and mounted them a bit like double-row F-series strips. I've also done a few F-Series strip builds and they are definitely easier to mount and wire.
 
getogrow

getogrow

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haze010 said:
The H series are fantasic, they are the exact same diodes as the F series but there are less on a strip. The deal you got was great but currently those are $20+ a strip, i was trying to let ppl know who missed the one you snagged. You got 144 diodes a strip for $2.80, these are 48 diodes a strip for $0.69 in 4k and $1.36 in 3k. Unfortunately i missed the deal you got, this one is pretty damn close tho (and actually better in 4k temp).

They are not an 11watt a strip though. The lights ive been running for 3 years are 9 of those strips off a HLG-120H-C700B in series for a total of 150watts or 16.6 a strip if you will. I have 4 of those in a 4x4 tent and its fantastic. That is me actually running them soft so i dont have a heatsink at all, many people run them over 20 watts a strip with aluminum angle backing as a heatsink.

LEDgardener actually has a build guide for
24 x Samsung 2foot h series with
1x Mean Well HLG-480H-24A Driver
wired in parallell for 500watts.
Thats 21w a strip.

Thats 500 watts of samsung 561c strips and driver for under $165 USD. Add a bit more expense for a frame and wiring but i dont think you will find a better DIY deal right now.

Just making sure people dont discount them because they were an older strip model, they are the same as the F but less diodes per strip.

Edit: the embedded link i had on strips was the wrong one.
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500 watts for 160 bucks ? thats fuckin crazy cheap. im only lost on one thing ....the difference between 561c and 301b/h ? thanks
 
getogrow

getogrow

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haze010 said:
301's are a newer diode, slightly more efficient. Given the price drop of these, the 301s are 10x the cost for a negligible difference. If they were the same price 301s are better. Most boards have transitioned from 561cs to 301s.
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ok , so just as i suspected.....an older version ....prolly plenty good enough ....just not quite as efficient. im ready to build a light !
Thank you sir!
 
getogrow

getogrow

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haze010 said:
The H series are fantasic, they are the exact same diodes as the F series but there are less on a strip. The deal you got was great but currently those are $20+ a strip, i was trying to let ppl know who missed the one you snagged. You got 144 diodes a strip for $2.80, these are 48 diodes a strip for $0.69 in 4k and $1.36 in 3k.
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This is the kind of basic info i been looking for..... simple diode count. Thanks man! 2000 diodes for about 60 bucks....wow. a couple hundred in drivers an heat sinks and i have a 1000-1500$ light for under 500. wow

i just paid 650$ for a meijui strip setup with about 2000 diodes in it. Gonna take at least a month to get here. i dont feel like i overpaid too much but i damn sure am a diy guy..... well i need two more big lights so ill be building those myself.
 
getogrow

getogrow

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haze010 said:
Yeah i was almost ordering a meiju myself till i saw arrow drop the price on these from $11 a strip to $1.36 a strip, plus its the exact ones i already made a build with. No brainer for me.
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sorry so many questions but you seem to know without looking.
how many drivers for 40 of them strips ? i can figure out all the wiring and such myself....i just wanted a rough guess for pricing reasons. Thanks again.
 
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