Samsung H series strips, Arrow seems to be blowing them out! what a deal!

getogrow

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loco41 said:
Scored some free unused aluminum shelving pieces from work today. Got 5 of these pieces. Each one is just under 5 feet and the middle channel is right around an inch, so 24mm strips fit perfectly inside. Just have to take the reflective piece and tape off.

They do have a light finish on them. Will that effect their ability to pull the heat off the strips?

Can't load any pictures at the moment, but I'll try to get some up.
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it looks to me like those are heat sinks for strips ? normally i would say , yes , sand um down but in your situation , them channels are perfect. (you want the metal to be as flat as possible that way every part of the strip is touching the metal.) GREAT FIND !!!
 
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spitting image of MW for a fraction of the price so looks wise I am happy. Someone in my household who will remain unnamed misplaced my screws so I was not able to get setups built for them. ill run to depot tomorrow and try to post in the evening. Next project will be to replace diodes on V series w some colors for supplemental light and a few far red strip. Wish i ordered more h strips or some F strips but I'll work with whats left
 

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ilovereggae said:
can u post a link to the ones you got? I did a quick search and they seem to be right around the same price as meanwell on digikey and arrow.
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With the press of 1 button all your questions will be answered... That button being the back/page 14 button... OR zoom in on the 2 model numbers in my picture. Sorry not trying to be rude just giving the people who know how to use them and what the numbers mean a head start.

I grow veggies too so I have some V and L04 series ill be testing out. Not as efficient as the H strips but should do fine with leafy greens, Not using them for flower but will throw 1 or 2 plants under them to see how they veg. Have a few more strips and drivers than what the photo shows but you get the point
 

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loco41

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Thanks for the heads up on the drivers, about to grab a few to power these cheap strips up. Reading through the datasheets, I realized I may not be reading the efficiency drop on the drivers correctly. When they refer to "efficiency vs load %" in the graphs, does the "load" refer to the wattage the driver is putting out compared to its max rating or does it refer to voltage/current specifically?

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For example, if I were to wire 8 x F series strips to a 48v 3.9A 185 watt driver, I would only be able to pull roughly 171 watts based upon the +/- 44 volts each strip would be using (used the samsung calculator to find the voltage of the strips when ran @ 488ma each). So with the current turned all the way up, would my "load %" be 92.4% (171 watts drawn/185 rated watts)?
 
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getogrow

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loco41 said:
Thanks for the heads up on the drivers, about to grab a few to power these cheap strips up. Reading through the datasheets, I realized I may not be reading the efficiency drop on the drivers correctly. When they refer to "efficiency vs load %" in the graphs, does the "load" refer to the wattage the driver is putting out compared to its max rating or does it refer to voltage/current specifically?

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For example, if I were to wire 8 x F series strips to a 48v 3.9A 185 watt driver, I would only be able to pull roughly 171 watts based upon the +/- 44 volts each strip would be using (used the samsung calculator to find the voltage of the strips when ran @ 488ma each). So with the current turned all the way up, would my "load %" be 92.4% (171 watts drawn/185 rated watts)?
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i think it refers to the voltage and current specifiaclly. i dont think it refers to its rating.
 
The Loafter

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had 24.37 cad or so duty on 10 of those cheap driver 185w 54v (27-54 dc) under 300 cad for 1850w of 91.5-945 (120 - 240v ac) efficiency. 54 was cheaper than 48, might end up a touch less efficient and less current, still waiting to see. they are lne series by delta, reduced price on arrow. looks like a clearance, i hope they are reliable.
 
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The Loafter said:
had 24.37 cad or so duty on 10 of those cheap driver 185w 54v (27-54 dc) under 300 cad for 1850w of 91.5-945 (120 - 240v ac) efficiency. 54 was cheaper than 48, might end up a touch less efficient and less current, still waiting to see. they are lne series by delta, reduced price on arrow. looks like a clearance, i hope they are reliable.
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I have a few of the 24V 120W in my shopping cart for the last few days. Trying to find out more info about them before I pull the trigger.
 
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was supposed to be here today but that customs hits me and it was 15+ hrs away wont make it by 9pm tonight. i dont have the heatsinks yet - those 4ft strips some kind fellow mentioned earlier. i wont be able to give you an idea of longevity but i can tell you if they work. L
 
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The Loafter said:
was supposed to be here today but that customs hits me and it was 15+ hrs away wont make it by 9pm tonight. i dont have the heatsinks yet - those 4ft strips some kind fellow mentioned earlier. i wont be able to give you an idea of longevity but i can tell you if they work. L
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To be clear I did find the datasheets, and in general Delta seems like a super reliable company. They claim to be "The World's #1 Power Supply Company" and looks like they are the manufacturer for a lot of other brands. I see a lot of ppl using them for custom PC builds, but I can't find anything regarding cannabis grows. I figure we run our drivers harder and longer than most other use cases, so it would be nice to have confidence they wont meltdown in a grow environment.
 
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Got a little blurry. I don't think the camera liked all the light. top is the 185watt 36aaa and bottow is the 150watt 24daa. Cant complain about anything at the moment. look and feel like meanwell hlg's with same packaging and a fraction of the price. Received my first order to verify before I wanted to post about it. Had to make sure I could order more if they were quality before you animals got them all:bigjoint: Still kicking myself for not ordering more H strips
 

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I see they make a 48 volt, 46 amp, 2200 watt power supply lol, sounds juicy, telecoms battery charger/ led driver?? :hump:
 
The Loafter

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idk have yet to test the meanwell hep600 on led(or anything). sounds like it should work. grab one for the team and let us know. is the efficiency and price right?

edit: what 2200 watt driver did you find, not too easy to find it on this end.
 
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loco41

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Nice to see the drivers in action. I grabbed two 185 48v's and one 120 24v for $72 to my door.

Thanks again for pointing these out though. I was going to order one xlg-200 and one xlg-150 from digikey which would've cost me $88 to my door. So with these, I added an extra driver and saved a little bit of money. I jumped the gun on the f series before they really dropped in price on my first order (got 8 of them at $7 per, so a lot more than a few weeks later), but still feel like I'll have some productive lights for a decent price.

$115 total for 16x F-series strips
$36 for 20x 90cri 2700k strips
$72 for drivers
$40 for four 18"x26" baking sheets

So right around $300 after some odds and ends to attach/wire everything together for roughly 500 watts total. I really plan on only using one of the 185's and running these for some type of veg shelving, but that extra driver opens up some possibilities too.
 
ilovereggae

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loco41 said:
Nice to see the drivers in action. I grabbed two 185 48v's and one 120 24v for $72 to my door.

Thanks again for pointing these out though. I was going to order one xlg-200 and one xlg-150 from digikey which would've cost me $88 to my door. So with these, I added an extra driver and saved a little bit of money. I jumped the gun on the f series before they really dropped in price on my first order (got 8 of them at $7 per, so a lot more than a few weeks later), but still feel like I'll have some productive lights for a decent price.

$115 total for 16x F-series strips
$36 for 20x 90cri 2700k strips
$72 for drivers
$40 for four 18"x26" baking sheets

So right around $300 after some odds and ends to attach/wire everything together for roughly 500 watts total. I really plan on only using one of the 185's and running these for some type of veg shelving, but that extra driver opens up some possibilities too.
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what do you all use for AC power cord and what do you use to connect that to the driver itself? Junction box or wagos? Junction + power cord always winds up being about another $15-20 onto my builds I would love to find a cheaper solution or somewhere if I buy a few I get a discount. Any suggestions?
 
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ilovereggae said:
what do you all use for AC power cord and what do you use to connect that to the driver itself? Junction box or wagos? Junction + power cord always winds up being about another $15-20 onto my builds I would love to find a cheaper solution or somewhere if I buy a few I get a discount. Any suggestions?
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I had an old dvd player w long cord I used for one and a 30ft cord from an old pool pump I cut in half for the other 2. Running out of broken things to steal cords from so I figure $20 for 100ft extension cord, $3 grounding plug x 9=27, and $8 for 100 wire nuts or push connectors.. That's $55 and can make 10 10ft cords, so $5.50 a driver. If you have a lot of drivers in one area then bring the power to the ceiling so you don't need as many long cords.
 
ilovereggae

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actually just found a bunch on Digikey for under $5, up to 8'. this is the cheapest one, $3.28 for a 3.3 ft cord. a few thousand in stock so hopefully they have these regularly. I have my drivers right next to my power strips so this works fine for me.

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ilovereggae

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To continue making this thread the gift that keeps on giving, those Delta Drivers are on sale at Arrow for insanely cheap prices. Finally pulled the trigger and bought a bunch. There was only 20 or so left of each so out of respect to @The Loafter and @babybud sharing with everyone else, I only grabbed 10 of each of these. Couldn't resist at these prices, sorry to be a hoarder but I did leave some for the rest of you so hurry up and get them!

$12.11 for 120W 24V (external dimmer)

$12.21 for 150W 48V (internal dimmer)

$12.86 for 185W 24V (internal dimmer)

i got the 120W for $11.24 so hurry up bc the algorithm is already adjusting prices upwards. I waited too long on the 150W 24V w external dimmer and it jumped from $18.xx to $47 before I could check out. There is also a bunch of 100W drivers for $10 each and a 36V 150W for $12 up at the moment.
 
J232

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ilovereggae said:
To continue making this thread the gift that keeps on giving, those Delta Drivers are on sale at Arrow for insanely cheap prices. Finally pulled the trigger and bought a bunch. There was only 20 or so left of each so out of respect to @The Loafter and @babybud sharing with everyone else, I only grabbed 10 of each of these. Couldn't resist at these prices, sorry to be a hoarder but I did leave some for the rest of you so hurry up and get them!

$12.11 for 120W 24V (external dimmer)

$12.21 for 150W 48V (internal dimmer)

$12.86 for 185W 24V (internal dimmer)

i got the 120W for $11.24 so hurry up bc the algorithm is already adjusting prices upwards. I waited too long on the 150W 24V w external dimmer and it jumped from $18.xx to $47 before I could check out. There is also a bunch of 100W drivers for $10 each and a 36V 150W for $12 up at the moment.
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Thank you, grabbed 4 150 48s to add to my project pile. I’m working on the cheapest led build ever :lol:
 
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