Sannies Seeds AVOID He'll keep your money and ship you nothing

bassman999 said:

I remember reading of his forum that some genetics were lost and he was making them again. Not sure what strain(s), but this might be the reason.

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A year ot two ago I opened 2 threads on Sannie's "Open Grow" site after he announced he made another seed run after running out of Sugar Punch seeds. As often is the case, when breeders try to duplicate their prior strain quality, it falls short. I was pounded as a troll from others, but Sannie did pipe in assuring everyone the quality is exactly the same.

Actually, I think his 1st new run was a disaster and he was forced to make an additional seed run because the prior seeds were not usuable, or they hermied, or didn't sprout or whatever after the test grow. If you remember, S.P. was not available for quite a while, maybe 8 months or so.

It's pretty obvious he was unable to replicate the past quality.......

SSHZ said:

A year ot two ago I opened 2 threads on Sannie's "Open Grow" site after he announced he made a another seed run after running out of Sugar Punch seeds. As often is the case, when breeders try to duplicate their prior strain quality, it falls short. I was pounded as a troll from others, but Sannie did pipe in assuring everyone the quality is exactly the same.

Actually, I think his 1st new run was a disaster and he was forced to make an additional seed run because the prior seeds were not usuable, or they hermied, or whatever after a test grow. If you remember, S.P. was not available for quite a while.

It's pretty obvious he was unable to replicate the past quality.......

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I wish I had bought them! I read some great reviews from a few years ago.

SSHZ said:

A year ot two ago I opened 2 threads on Sannie's "Open Grow" site after he announced he made a another seed run after running out of Sugar Punch seeds. As often is the case, when breeders try to duplicate their prior strain quality, it falls short. I was pounded as a troll from others, but Sannie did pipe in assuring everyone the quality is exactly the same.

Actually, I think his 1st new run was a disaster and he was forced to make an additional seed run because the prior seeds were not usuable, or they hermied, or whatever after a test grow. If you remember, S.P. was not available for quite a while.

It's pretty obvious he was unable to replicate the past quality.......

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That makes perfect sense. That means what i got was trash(all males) hopefully something good will come of it.

I also found last night 2 Sannie freebies of Jack X Mad Scientist......anybody ever grow this out?

got my reship a couple of weeks ago btw.

Hey , heres a question of ethics. Sannies sent me seeds with in 2 months i tried half and got all males , one good looking male i am breading. I don't know if it will be good but i also don't know if it's the strain it says it is as it doesn't resemble it n stuff. So i'm not wealthy and like to play with strains that aren't the best if they are free. So should i ask them to ship me more? I think I should. Was going to suggest saying i didn't get any but on consideration i will tell my story and see what they do.

esh dov ets said:

Hey , heres a question of ethics. Sannies sent me seeds with in 2 months i tried half and got all males , one good looking male i am breading. I don't know if it will be good but i also don't know if it's the strain it says it is as it doesn't resemble it n stuff. So i'm not wealthy and like to play with strains that aren't the best if they are free. So should i ask them to ship me more? I think I should. Was going to suggest saying i didn't get any but on consideration i will tell my story and see what they do.

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Are you asking if we think you should email him requesting free seeds because you started half and got all males? Why the hell would he give you free seeds when you got 6 healthy plants. No breeder can nor will they guarantee you'll get any females out of regular seeds. The typically ratio is 50% male 50% female, if you got all males in the first few beans you'll most likely get a couple females the next time but not always. Environmental factors during the first couple of weeks of seedling growth can affect the sex of a plant as well. So no I don't think you should ask for more seeds free and the fact you were willing to scam Sanny's and lie saying you received none is pretty low, imo.

thenotsoesoteric said:

Are you asking if we think you should email him requesting free seeds because you started half and got all males? Why the hell would he give you free seeds when you got 6 healthy plants. No breeder can nor will they guarantee you'll get any females out of regular seeds. The typically ratio is 50% male 50% female, if you got all males in the first few beans you'll most likely get a couple females the next time but not always. Environmental factors during the first couple of weeks of seedling growth can affect the sex of a plant as well. So no I don't think you should ask for more seeds free and the fact you were willing to scam Sanny's and lie saying you received none is pretty low, imo.

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ok.
i would not lie to an honest someone. and i decided in the first place not to treat shady with shady. i got 8 out of ten to sprout in a controlled optimal environment. of those 8 all where male and only one was a keeper. i won't complain to the company till i try the other beans. i was asking an ethics question and i appreciate your honest and passionate response. if i get same or worse results from the rest of my seeds i will call it bunk. i have poped 100s of beans a few at a time and never have i seen results like this. if the males offspring with some dank i crossed it with is crappy i will be mad and feel ripped off because i know the strain and it should be dank. so i am giving sannies a chance but no more money in the mean time. if they respond like you did after everything then i will hope they get riped off cause false advertising is pretty low.

The green manalishi is a g13 cross from NAW seeds( originally from mota.), I have a couple of 'strappleberry' and 1 purple chemdog x headcandy freebie (all NAW) vegging just now,plus one mad kush (fem'd). Had all 4 orders ( £ ) arrive within ten days to Glasgow uk from sannies and I'll use them again.. though I use a few others too.
Hopefully you'll get your order
Good luck and happy growing
Gaz

I sent an order in to sannies in November and mid December I received a very nice christmas card wish me a "vrolijk kerstfeest en een gelukkig nieuwjaar" lol

esh dov ets said:

ok.
i would not lie to an honest someone. and i decided in the first place not to treat shady with shady. i got 8 out of ten to sprout in a controlled optimal environment. of those 8 all where male and only one was a keeper. i won't complain to the company till i try the other beans. i was asking an ethics question and i appreciate your honest and passionate response. if i get same or worse results from the rest of my seeds i will call it bunk. i have poped 100s of beans a few at a time and never have i seen results like this. if the males offspring with some dank i crossed it with is crappy i will be mad and feel ripped off because i know the strain and it should be dank. so i am giving sannies a chance but no more money in the mean time. if they respond like you did after everything then i will hope they get riped off cause false advertising is pretty low.

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I understand your frustration but there is no way a breeder can produce all males seeds so you can't really blame your male female ratio on Sannies. Again it is just luck of the draw. Actually I guess if a breeder takes a male and reverses it with CS to produce female flowers, the breeder could supply all male seeds but that would take a lot of time and effort seeing as how each male plant reversed would only make a handful of seeds.

Again I know the pain you're feeling as I've been there many times myself. I buy a ten pack and germinate them all only to end up with one or two females. It sucks but that's the game.

If you want to improve your male to female ratio, use:

blue spectrum lightning
keep temperatures cooler
run lights at 14 hours on 10 hours off
have you nutrient solution higher in nitrogen than P or K
keep growing medium moist

Do all those thing for the first two weeks of the seedlings life and after two weeks return to your normal veg time and routine. Of course these things will not always improve male to female ratios but both Ed Rosenthal and Jorge Cervantes suggest doing as such and when I actually follow the routine I see improve ratio over 50% but not always.

SSHZ said:

A year ot two ago I opened 2 threads on Sannie's "Open Grow" site after he announced he made another seed run after running out of Sugar Punch seeds. As often is the case, when breeders try to duplicate their prior strain quality, it falls short. I was pounded as a troll from others, but Sannie did pipe in assuring everyone the quality is exactly the same.

Actually, I think his 1st new run was a disaster and he was forced to make an additional seed run because the prior seeds were not usuable, or they hermied, or didn't sprout or whatever after the test grow. If you remember, S.P. was not available for quite a while, maybe 8 months or so.

It's pretty obvious he was unable to replicate the past quality.......

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Yup, I got the first run of the remakes, very unstable.

esh dov ets said:

ok.
i would not lie to an honest someone. and i decided in the first place not to treat shady with shady. i got 8 out of ten to sprout in a controlled optimal environment. of those 8 all where male and only one was a keeper. i won't complain to the company till i try the other beans. i was asking an ethics question and i appreciate your honest and passionate response. if i get same or worse results from the rest of my seeds i will call it bunk. i have poped 100s of beans a few at a time and never have i seen results like this. if the males offspring with some dank i crossed it with is crappy i will be mad and feel ripped off because i know the strain and it should be dank. so i am giving sannies a chance but no more money in the mean time. if they respond like you did after everything then i will hope they get riped off cause false advertising is pretty low.

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Are you sure you are identifying males versus females correctly? Something tells me you're not sexing your plants correctly.

SSHZ said:

A year ot two ago I opened 2 threads on Sannie's "Open Grow" site after he announced he made another seed run after running out of Sugar Punch seeds. As often is the case, when breeders try to duplicate their prior strain quality, it falls short. I was pounded as a troll from others, but Sannie did pipe in assuring everyone the quality is exactly the same.

Actually, I think his 1st new run was a disaster and he was forced to make an additional seed run because the prior seeds were not usuable, or they hermied, or didn't sprout or whatever after the test grow. If you remember, S.P. was not available for quite a while, maybe 8 months or so.

It's pretty obvious he was unable to replicate the past quality.......

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My latest run of g39, chocolate rain and killaqueen has really been an eye opener. After years of sampling sannies universe of strains these three were a jackpot in every way. The best I've tried so far. I'll concur that the latest sugar punch isn't as good as the old sugarpunch, and I even feel like the old sugarpunch can't out surpass my latest run of g39, chocolate rain and killaqueen in terms of quality.

Ordered a few times from him, the problem I had was, he was in the middle of losing some of his strains and sent me other types in the place of the ones I ordered, the flowering times screwed me up for months and never kept any of them. I may try them again, but there are a ton more options now, then there was a couple years ago.

Edgar9 said:

Are you sure you are identifying males versus females correctly? Something tells me you're not sexing your plants correctly.

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bite me

Edgar9 said:

My latest run of g39, chocolate rain and killaqueen has really been an eye opener. After years of sampling sannies universe of strains these three were a jackpot in every way. The best I've tried so far. I'll concur that the latest sugar punch isn't as good as the old sugarpunch, and I even feel like the old sugarpunch can't out surpass my latest run of g39, chocolate rain and killaqueen in terms of quality.

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saying a plant is one strain when it's not is false advertising at best. it costs the grower time effort and money to grow. last time this happened to me i was supposed to get sour diesel and a privet reserve i guessed the pr would be different.. but sour d is sour d . i got swag. you will say oh i fucked up.. the authentic gsc i grew next to it was fire. i'm 90% sure what i got from sannies isn't what it said it was as it doesn't resemble the strain. fingers crossed i didn't waste 4 months breeding swag with the one good male out of 9 males.
males Egar with balls
heres one of mine looking better than any of the sannies

Sannie is reliable and trust worthy in my experience.

Never had a issue

Heil Tweetler said:

Sannie is reliable and trust worthy in my experience.View attachment 3951070

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good to hear. i crossed their herouna daddy with my cookie momma. if the heroin cookies are bomb it wasn't a bust.