Sannies

racerboy71 said:

even if you took say a poly and crossed it with an ibl, you'd still end up with an ibl og?

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Nah, you'd have a fairly diverse set of plants. Not as diverse as an F2 or poly x poly, but diverse.

gabechihua said:

Thanks for clearing that up guys. Personally I think a stable F1 is ideal for someone with limited space and also wants a vigorous plant that doesn't have the inherent problems that some inbred lines do. But If you have the time, space, and patience a polyhybrid offers you the chance to hunt out phenos and select a plant that best suits you, which is pretty cool if you ask me. Imagine finding something totally unique like the cherry pheno of AK47, which supposedly pops up once every 1,000 plants, I would be totally stoked. It's all a matter of personal preference I guess, and one mans trash really is another mans treasure when it comes to this subject.

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AK47 I think is probably a real f1 based on every report I've ever seen. Simon says the 'cherry' pheno doesn't exist. He suspects it's people with somewhat unsophisticated pallettes (or the opposite) who make the comparison. It is a pretty fruity smelling weed (with heavy dank undertones) at least in my experience.

It's a good cross though, no doubt.

Yeah I think labeling it 'cherry' might be a stretch from what I've seen any way, which isn't much. I just saw it on a Weed Nerd episode, Mz Jill and herb man couldn't agree on what the smell was. One thought it smelled sour the other thought it smelled fruity, both weren't really convinced it actually smelled like cherry. Either way I think it's been pretty settled upon that there is a rare freak pheno that is unique from the bunch.

Yeah, Simon (the breeder of the strain) disagrees. There are some phenotypes probably more potent than others. I personally don't know.

Sannie has some good strains - the seeds suck. Immature, weak and/or old. Rotate the stock.

I had 20 seeds 10 from Swami and 10 from Sannie

All of Swami's grew but only 1 of Sannie.

Going to make my own seeds.

TimBar said:

Sannie has some good strains - the seeds suck. Immature, weak and/or old. Rotate the stock.

I had 20 seeds 10 from Swami and 10 from Sannie

All of Swami's grew but only 1 of Sannie.

Going to make my own seeds.

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I haven't had that experience from Sannies, ever. I just popped some Sugar Punch and some Madberry and they were the first ones to pop and are the biggest. I suspect you never mentioned anything to Sannie in message? Because he generally takes care of any problems that do come up, but from my experience 9 out of 10 times its the growers fault when complaining about how a seed performed. Too hot, too cold, too much water, not enough light or too much nutrients.Its so much easier for a grower to blame a breeder instead of looking in the mirror.

Not grower error - most all crack and rot - he sent me 5 more from same f6 lot and still bad...luckily I got two and flipped one to male and will make my own killing field fem seeds

My own seeds always sprout.

Here's a Sannie's Jack bud shot harvested at 12 weeks with some seeds in it. This plant was from f2s I made years ago from Sannie's f7 release of these I scooped up circa 2011. It's basically an IBL and the plants are almost identical in every way. Very strong sativa with huge yields. Seeing some great stuff using these in chucks.

The Mantis said:

Here's a Sannie's Jack bud shot harvested at 12 weeks with some seeds in it. This plant was from f2s I made years ago from Sannie's f7 release of these I scooped up circa 2011. It's basically an IBL and the plants are almost identical in every way. Very strong sativa with huge yields. Seeing some great stuff using these in chucks.

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if the beans you got were f7 then you made f8 beans not f2

Zipz55 said:

if the beans you got were f7 then you made f8 beans not f2

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You could also call them f8s but I didn't have many to select from. Once I'm making a selection I just call them f2s for my own record.

You are doing the right thing - breed your own sannie seeds. They make great genetics -but poor weak immature seeds

The Mantis said:

Here's a Sannie's Jack bud shot harvested at 12 weeks with some seeds in it. This plant was from f2s I made years ago from Sannie's f7 release of these I scooped up circa 2011. It's basically an IBL and the plants are almost identical in every way. Very strong sativa with huge yields. Seeing some great stuff using these in chucks.

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whats the effects like off her?

TimBar said:

You are doing the right thing - breed your own sannie seeds. They make great genetics -but poor weak immature seeds

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I never had any germ problems with Sannies but all the gear I bought from them was back 8 years ago or so. Maybe the quality has slipped. No one can be good forever it seems.

@ChocoKush -- straight sativa up high with no haze effect.

The Mantis said:

I never had any germ problems with Sannies but all the gear I bought from them was back 8 years ago or so. Maybe the quality has slipped. No one can be good forever it seems.

@ChocoKush -- straight sativa up high with no haze effect.

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He did get busted and lost everything but I heard he got a lot back from his people and their backups of his gear

His gear is solid

Anyone know the difference in his sannies jack f9 regular version vs the fem version?

sdd420 said:

He did get busted and lost everything but I heard he got a lot back from his people and their backups of his gear

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Wasn't aware of that but thanks for the info. That certainly is a big deal and hard to recover from quickly no matter who you are or how many backups you have. He certainly put in the work as a breeder and deserves that credit. I learned a ton from his forum opengrow. To bring any strain to f8 deservers recognition. His Jack is a beast and probably has the least amount of variability in any strain I've grown. Pretty cool to see every seed turn out almost identical.

great when did that happen?

probably has quite the database.

TimBar said:

great when did that happen?

probably has quite the database.

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It was some years back now. When Holland cracked down on seed seller’s whenever that was. After that a lot of breeders moved to Spain

So, I placed an order with Sannie 4/13.
4/13 - I paid with crypto.
4/15 - got an email saying they were shipped and I could track it, but no tracking # was provided
4/15 - I emailed Sannie asking for tracking #
4/16 - Sannie reply saying they no longer provide tracking # on seeds
5/3 - I’m still waiting on the seeds


My thoughts are - I get the pandemic has held everything up, so I’ll be patient.

But I ordered from 3 other seed banks plus Sannie , and Sannie is the only one who charged for shipping and did not provide tracking.

2 of my orders arrived from the other seed banks already, and my order from attitude is currently going thru customs..

I have no idea whats going on with the Sannies order. For this reason, I cannot recommend Sannies as a seed shop.

I only ordered because Sannies is the only shop In the entire world that has herijuana.

I’ll be using colloidal silver to make my own feminized seeds of herijuana, and crossing it with space queen.