Sarah Palin was worse than we thought...

Johnnyorganic

Johnnyorganic

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Camille Paglia is a liberal. She makes a better case than I can.
Although nothing will sway my vote for Obama, I continue to enjoy Sarah Palin's performance on the national stage. During her vice-presidential debate last week with Joe Biden (whose conspiratorial smiles with moderator Gwen Ifill were outrageous and condescending toward his opponent), I laughed heartily at Palin's digs and slams and marveled at the way she slowly took over the entire event. I was sorry when it ended! But Biden wasn't -- judging by his Gore-like sighs and his slow sinking like a punctured blimp. Of course Biden won on points, but TV (a visual medium) never cares about that.

The mountain of rubbish poured out about Palin over the past month would rival Everest. What a disgrace for our jabbering army of liberal journalists and commentators, too many of whom behaved like snippy jackasses. The bourgeois conventionalism and rank snobbery of these alleged humanitarians stank up the place. As for Palin's brutally edited interviews with Charlie Gibson and that viper, Katie Couric, don't we all know that the best bits ended up on the cutting-room floor? Something has gone seriously wrong with Democratic ideology, which seems to have become a candied set of holier-than-thou bromides attached like tutti-frutti to a quivering green Jell-O mold of adolescent sentimentality.

And where is all that lurid sexual fantasy coming from? When I watch Sarah Palin, I don't think sex -- I think Amazon warrior! I admire her competitive spirit and her exuberant vitality, which borders on the supernormal. The question that keeps popping up for me is whether Palin, who was born in Idaho, could possibly be part Native American (as we know her husband is), which sometimes seems suggested by her strong facial contours. I have felt that same extraordinary energy and hyper-alertness billowing out from other women with Native American ancestry -- including two overpowering celebrity icons with whom I have worked.

One of the most idiotic allegations batting around out there among urban media insiders is that Palin is "dumb." Are they kidding? What level of stupidity is now par for the course in those musty circles? (The value of Ivy League degrees, like sub-prime mortgages, has certainly been plummeting. As a Yale Ph.D., I have a perfect right to my scorn.) People who can't see how smart Palin is are trapped in their own narrow parochialism -- the tedious, hackneyed forms of their upper-middle-class syntax and vocabulary.
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Camille Paglia on Sarah Palin, Barack Obama, Joe Biden and more | Salon

As soon as Governor Palin was announced, the journalists went to work. If you inspect the record of a politician, any politician, hard enough you can find something.

My objection is that same level of scrutiny was not applied to POTUS-Elect Obama or VP-Elect Joe Biden. They got a pass, even the Washington Post admits it. After the election, of course.
But Obama deserved tougher scrutiny than he got, especially of his undergraduate years, his start in Chicago and his relationship with Antoin "Tony" Rezko, who was convicted this year of influence-peddling in Chicago. The Post did nothing on Obama's acknowledged drug use as a teenager.
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We may find out eventually what it was about the college years that required omission during the campaign. It's obvious why Rezko was ignored. Why do you think they ignored his drug use? Was it to keep the issue away from the radar of mainstream voters?
One gaping hole in coverage involved Joe Biden, Obama's running mate. When Gov. Sarah Palin was nominated for vice president, reporters were booking the next flight to Alaska. Some readers thought The Post went over Palin with a fine-tooth comb and neglected Biden. They are right; it was a serious omission.
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Deborah Howell - An Obama Tilt in Campaign Coverage - washingtonpost.com
 
misshestermoffitt

misshestermoffitt

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I dare say someone on McCain's team inspected the fuck out of Obama's record. They found things to bitch about concerning people he's known or worked with, and let's not forget that whole citizenship bullshit, him and his aunt. It doesn't seem they found anything on him.
 
NorthwestBuds

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misshestermoffitt said:
I dare say someone on McCain's team inspected the fuck out of Obama's record. They found things to bitch about concerning people he's known or worked with, and let's not forget that whole citizenship bullshit, him and his aunt. It doesn't seem they found anything on him.
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The sick thing is people WANT to find dirt. If they can't they make shit up and puncuate the statement with a smiley.
 
misshestermoffitt

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If any dirt would have been found on Obama it would have been all over the TV, radio, newspapers, internet. The fact that there is no dirt makes me trust Obama way more than Bible Spice and her boy.
 
Johnnyorganic

Johnnyorganic

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NorthwestBuds said:
The sick thing is people WANT to find dirt. If they can't they make shit up and puncuate the statement with a smiley.
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And then become unnamed sources.
misshestermoffitt said:
I dare say someone on McCain's team inspected the fuck out of Obama's record. They found things to bitch about concerning people he's known or worked with, and let's not forget that whole citizenship bullshit, him and his aunt. It doesn't seem they found anything on him.
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My you are a fast reader! Five minutes to scour all that material and craft a response.

McCain did not play dirty enough. Otherwise he would have hammered the Jeremiah Wright issue.

Anyway, I was not talking about garbologists working on campaigns. I was talking about media coverage. Do you deny Obama and Biden were treated more gingerly than McCain/Palin?
misshestermoffitt said:
If any dirt would have been found on Obama it would have been all over the TV, radio, newspapers, internet. The fact that there is no dirt makes me trust Obama way more than Bible Spice and her boy.
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Dirt was not sought out by the journalists as far as Obama/Biden were concerned. Not to the extent it was on Governor Palin.

The Washington Post admits it, why can't you?
 
misshestermoffitt

misshestermoffitt

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You don't think the McCain campaign was scouring for dirt on Obama? Please, some good dirt on him would've made the old guy cream his pants. Especially seeing how Palin was being crucified.

Hot Chocolate, now, with mini-mallows ;)
 
Johnnyorganic

Johnnyorganic

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misshestermoffitt said:
You don't think the McCain campaign was scouring for dirt on Obama? Please, some good dirt on him would've made the old guy cream his pants. Especially seeing how Palin was being crucified.
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If he had it, he did not use. Bill Ayers, for example. McCain had to be careful or he would be called a racist. That may be why the media treated Obama with kid gloves, but it does not explain their soft touch on Joe the Dumber.

Hillary was far dirtier a campaigner than McCain.
misshestermoffitt said:
Hot Chocolate, now, with mini-mallows
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LOL! The day I do the bidding of a head in a jar is the day I wake up in a Futurama episode.

Keep dreaming.

If you can't innovate; imitate.

Thanks for the coffee! I did not even have to ask.
 
mane2008

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ViRedd said:
:lol: How exactly does one "share" unnamed sources? That's the problem, man. Most Kool-Aid drinkers in this thread are citing the unnamed sources. There are no facts. No truth. There is nothing but hearsay. The National Pravda that we call our Main Stream Media, who were well in the tank for Obama, are citing these same unnamed sources as fact. They have no names.

Did anyone watch Bill Maher this week? The little puke made a big deal out of Palin not knowing that Africa was a continent .. as though it is fact. It was nothing more than more bullshit from those same unnamed sources.

Honestly, if I ever meet Maher face to face ..... Grrrrrr. :hump:

Vi
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I was high and read it wrong. Sounded like you said they were coming out:roll:
 
CrackerJax

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Here's the skinny on political smears.

The opposition seeks to discredit an opponent with charges, either true or false, in an attempt to create "lift" for their candidate. The axiom being if the "opponent" is false, than the "friendly" is true.

THIS IS A FALSEHOOD.....

I can understand the need to destroy Palin, for she was a formidable foe who did have more qualifications than Obama.

However, being successfully destroyed (Palin) does not mean Obama is now more qualified. He is not.

It will be a hoot to watch it all go down in flames, as long as you have protected your assets in advance. I suggest you do so at the earliest available juncture.



out.:blsmoke:
 
bradlyallen2

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CrackerJax said:
Here's the skinny on political smears.

The opposition seeks to discredit an opponent with charges, either true or false, in an attempt to create "lift" for their candidate. The axiom being if the "opponent" is false, than the "friendly" is true.

THIS IS A FALSEHOOD.....

I can understand the need to destroy Palin, for she was a formidable foe who did have more qualifications than Obama.

However, being successfully destroyed (Palin) does not mean Obama is now more qualified. He is not.

It will be a hoot to watch it all go down in flames, as long as you have protected your assets in advance. I suggest you do so at the earliest available juncture.



out.:blsmoke:
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Yeah right. Palin is more qualified than Obama. She hopped around from one community college to the next before acquiring her degree in journalism. Meanwhile, Obama was paying his way through perhaps the most prestigious Law school in the land where he graduated near the top of his class. When Obama speaks millions (5 million expected for Obama inauguration vs 300k if McCain won) of people show up live to hear him whereas Palin can't speak coherently in private while being interviewed by the ever-intimidatin Katie Couric. And it's not a smear when she is judged by her own fumbling idiotic performance in interviews. If you think Palin is smart that makes you even dumber than she is which is difficult to imagine.
 
mane2008

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bradlyallen2 said:
Yeah right. Palin is more qualified than Obama. She hopped around from one community college to the next before acquiring her degree in journalism. Meanwhile, Obama was paying his way through perhaps the most prestigious Law school in the land where he graduated near the top of his class. When Obama speaks millions (5 million expected for Obama inauguration vs 300k if McCain won) of people show up live to hear him whereas Palin can't speak coherently in private while being interviewed by the ever-intimidatin Katie Couric. And it's not a smear when she is judged by her own fumbling idiotic performance in interviews. If you think Palin is smart that makes you even dumber than she is which is difficult to imagine.
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Politics is a crazy business.
Obama puts Palin under the bridge. A friendly "debate" between the to will show you who the better speaker is along with who can handle themselves under pressure and still be articulate and not try to switch the topic.

Obama's credentials overpower Palin's(what credentials:roll:) by a mile long. She is very ditsy and the truth is coming out about her.
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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bradlyallen2 said:
Yeah right. Palin is more qualified than Obama. She hopped around from one community college to the next before acquiring her degree in journalism. Meanwhile, Obama was paying his way through perhaps the most prestigious Law school in the land where he graduated near the top of his class. When Obama speaks millions (5 million expected for Obama inauguration vs 300k if McCain won) of people show up live to hear him whereas Palin can't speak coherently in private while being interviewed by the ever-intimidatin Katie Couric. And it's not a smear when she is judged by her own fumbling idiotic performance in interviews. If you think Palin is smart that makes you even dumber than she is which is difficult to imagine.
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You equate pedigree of education to equal performance. This is a fallacy easy to fall for. I equate qualifications with achievement. palin over qualifies Obama in that regard.

Speaking of bridges.... to nowhere... Obama voted for it. Wow, he is qualified.

He won and that is that. Just don't count the popularity contest as a vindication of socialism, it's not...


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bradlyallen2

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No one was speaking about bridges to nowhere...we were talking about Palins abysmal performance during her widely viewed interviews and how she came off like a feeb...if it smells like shit must be shit in my book. How you could watch those interviews (did you???) and then claim she is more qualified than Obama...let alone a steaming turd...is beyond me. And in terms of 'pedigree' I think it's fair to say anyone who graduates from Harvard law near the top of their class is probably going to be a more skilled candidate than a thwarted beauty queen wannabe who attended 4 regional and jr colleges in 4 years before getting her mickey mouse diploma. I think we are done here.
 
bradlyallen2

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CrackerJax said:
Yes, America will remain safe because our politicians interview well.



out.:blsmoke:
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I think it's safe to say the interview is the gold standard by which the 'total person' can be judged in a short time. It is a window that allows the whole world a peek at the inner workings of a candidate. Failure in an interview like that accomplished by Palin speaks volumes about what we would have been able to expect from her as a leader. In addition, she landed her VP candidate spot because of demographics (she was handpicked because she is a conservative white FEMALE), not merit. The only bridge to nowhere was her campaign. Obama on the other hand, worked hard and used his innate intelligence to demonstrate his leadership abilities and run a bombproof campaign. Not only did he consistently perform in flawless manner, he did so under the auspice of his own guidance...he is a self made man, he didn't get cherry picked out of obscurity to be president 2 months before the election, he didn't get into an ivy league school because of family connections (Bush & McCain did). If you choose to think favorably of Palin go ahead but don't think you can use verbose descriptions of her performance to try and obscure her overwhelming mediocrity and try and put her in the same league with Obama. By doing so you insult the readers here.
 
medicineman

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I just don't get why otherwise semi-intelligent people went google eyes for Palin. She was the most inexperienced idiotic V.P candidate I've ever witnesed. If I were a republican, I would have been extremely embarassed for her and John, and especially for the party. It's obvious that he just pulled her out of his ass and didn't bother to check her out. Kind of makes one wonder how in the hell she ever got to be Governator. Must be some really dumb ass hicks in Alaska. All you Sarah Palin fans need to step back and re-evaluate, or accept the fact that you must be a bunch of dumb asses. I mean, it's one thing to be party faithful, but when the party foists a dumbass on you, well wake the fuck up.
 
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fdd2blk

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medicineman said:
I just don't get why otherwise semi-intelligent people went google eyes for Palin. She was the most inexperienced idiotic V.P candidate I've ever witnesed. If I were a republican, I would have been extremely embarassed for her and John, and especially for the party. It's obvious that he just pulled her out of his ass and didn't bother to check her out. Kind of makes one wonder how in the hell she ever got to be Governator. Must be some really dumb ass hicks in Alaska. All you Sarah Palin fans need to step back and re-evaluate, or accept the fact that you must be a bunch of dumb asses.
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did you see the way he gawked over her? little drool coming out the corner of his mouth. dirty old man. :mrgreen::mrgreen::hump:
 
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