Sativa from Indica Mother?

Dick Moser

Active Member
hey, thanks for stopping by first of all.

lets jump right into it, last season i had a few males from seed (wreck) and a few clone only females (osbb) and decided to try my hand at breeding these cute little bitches. and as far as i know both are indica heavy strains and i know the mother plant finshed well in about 7.5 8 weeks with big broad leaves and a short compact stature. well i seeded some of the nicer looking ladies and let the miricles of nature work their majic and volla i have some seeds, well that was monthes ago and now i am 2 weeks into flower vegged about 35 days and they are about 5 feet tall with about a 6-8 inch stretch between nodes and just pathetic loooking bud sites. i am hopeing like hell that i havent wasted a month and a half. so im thinking that

A.) im a horrible breeder and i pretty much just grew out some bag seed

B.) there is a reason its called a clone only strain

C.)they have gone damn near 100% sativa and with enough time will fill out better then my expectations would allow.

i would have some pictures but i dont know what i did with my sd reader (just moved) but when i find it ill post some pics.

i know without pics its kinda pointless but im just wondering what i should do, cut and burn and move on or grow out and see how they finish, just a lost and confused stoner looking for guidance
 

LordWinter

New Member
I'd say, at a bare minimum, that the genetics are probably unstable. Remember, some phenotypes are as rare as a winning powerball ticket. More than likely, it's a nice mix of B and C. As for what to do... if I had the extra space and was curious enough, I'd grow them out. If I was short on space and needed to get some guaranteed goodness in there, I'd chop 'em.
 

Dick Moser

Active Member
pretty much exactly what im gonna do, i decided to start some known goodness (super lemon) vegging and keep these in flower until i need the room and see how my first breeding experience went. thanks for pointing out that it could be genetic, i guess i shouldnt use clone only strains next time. at least not until i know what im doing.
 

LordWinter

New Member
Sounds like a plan, and you're quite welcome. Nothing really wrong with clone-only, it just takes a lot of work to get them stabilized. Good luck on those, and keep us posted on how they turn out. The super lemon, too, for that matter.
 

woodsmaneh!

Well-Known Member
Indica does not turn into Sativa, what you have is just a different phenol from the original breeding pair. Happens when you are not using an IBL or F3.

An IBL (inbred line) is a genetically homogeneous strain that grows uniformly from seed.


A hybrid is a strain made up of two genetically unlike parents, IBL or hybrid.


When you cross two different IBL strains for the FIRST time, it is called the F1 generation. When you cross two of the same F1 hybrid (inbreed), it is called the F2 generation.


The process of selective inbreeding must continue at least until the F4 to stabilize the recurrently selected traits. When you cross two specimens of an IBL variety, you get more of the same, because an IBL is homozygous, or true breeding for particular traits.
 

LordWinter

New Member
Indica does not turn into Sativa, what you have is just a different phenol from the original breeding pair. Happens when you are not using an IBL or F3.

An IBL (inbred line) is a genetically homogeneous strain that grows uniformly from seed.


A hybrid is a strain made up of two genetically unlike parents, IBL or hybrid.


When you cross two different IBL strains for the FIRST time, it is called the F1 generation. When you cross two of the same F1 hybrid (inbreed), it is called the F2 generation.


The process of selective inbreeding must continue at least until the F4 to stabilize the recurrently selected traits. When you cross two specimens of an IBL variety, you get more of the same, because an IBL is homozygous, or true breeding for particular traits.
Right, woodsman, but if the strain is a hybrid that has been stabilized to produce plants that are indica in appearance, then the crossing of that strain with another that is also a hybrid can produce plants that are sativa in appearance. Don't forget that the majority of strains on the market are hybrids. Not only that, but they have phenos that lean toward both sativa and indica in their appearance... as well as in other traits, too. You're dead on correct with your info, but you didn't really answer his question. He wanted to know HOW he ended up with the result he got. The most simple answer is genetics, due to the fact that he said Indica heavy not pure indica, showing that he is working with hybrid plants.
 
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