Sativas are always energetic and Indicas are sleepers?

Scaccia450

Scaccia450

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jimihendrix1 said:
I started smoking, in 1967.

Im in extreme northeast, Ky. We used to get a lot of weed, from Meigs County. My buddy, got the first Indica we ever saw, from William Keith "Noodles" Hayes. In 1972. My buddy was playing in a band, that opened for James Gang, in Charleston Wva, met Noodles there, and he invited my buddy, to his farm. Noodles also created Meigs County Gold, and Willie Nelson, was a frequent visitor.
We also got the first Skunk, from Noodles, in 1978, but buddy got ratted out, and lost it, and the Indica, in 1984.
My buddy passed 2 years ago, and would be 75 this year, and Noodles, would be 80.
Noodles passed in 2020, at St Marys Medical Center, in Huntigton Wva.
Noodles told my buddy, the Skunk, was a cross of Kerela, and an unnamed Indica.
Interesting he knew about Kerela, in 1978, and possessed the genetics. He had been collecting seeds, since the 60s.
Meigs, was known as the Humboldt County, of the East, in the 70s.
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How to make the loud smell less loud?? Does rolling with blunts make it less loud and smell less potent?
 
MeOhMyOhio

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tstick said:
I think the differences are more related to the way the plants were grown and ripened and dried, than whether or not it's an Indica or a Sativa. THC is THC regardless of which one it's from and the same goes for all the other cannabinoids. Yes, there are differences in the terpene profiles and the ratios among the cannabinoids....but those are all variable in both Sativa and Indica, too.

When I started smoking weed back in the 70's, most all of it was Sativa from Mexico. When it was a good batch, it typically sat you down and melted you into the couch. None of it made you feel "up" or "energized"....etc. That weed was also grown to the point that the buds were full of ripe seeds. That's what determined when to harvest -the seeds were ripe. So, that means that those Mexican Sativa were grown to full term and also allowed to produce seeds.

I, personally, believe that the whole "up" thing comes from underripe flowers....because when you smoke underripe weed, the "stoney" effects are minimized. So, you feel kinda high, but not really stoned. If that same Sativa was allowed to ripen more, then the effects would be much heavier.

The differences were hyped by the medical marijuana industry in an attempt to sell more products. I once had a flirty bud tender tell me stuff like, "Ohhhhh this one makes me SO horny!" LOL! "Oooohhh, I use this one to study."....etc.
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I have to agree with that statement. I just finished a Columbian x Skunk strain, and flowered it two weeks past the milky trichome stage. It was pretty much amber all around. I was ripening seeds and needed to wait a little longer until they "browned".
Two weeks before, I tried a sample bud of that Columbian cross and it was an uplifting, kind of trippy high.
Now, the "fully ripe" buds are dried and cured. The smoke knocks you on your ass and sits you down! Even the flavor kind of changed.
 
Dboybudz

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MeOhMyOhio said:
I've been struggling with differences between indica and sativa as well. I'm 62 years old and have been smoking for over 45 years. I've grown for about 28 of those years, even in the 90s when we only got cuts from other growers or seeds from Holland.

As mentioned above, most strains nowadays are all hybrids. The genetics are bread for high THC, and terpene profile is a secondary consideration.

I've been chasing landraces for years, trying to use simple, two-way crosses, or pure land race strains. Ace Seeds does pretty good with some of these. Sensi seeds sells some classic, beautiful skunks, and sativas. Coastal seeds used to do some as well. Right now, I'm growing strains from the 80s and 90s and two land race strains.

these convoluted genetics these days are crazy! Look at seed finder and try to follow all those branches! People find a rare phenotype in a batch of seeds, breed it, add to its already fucked up genetics, and think they are making another great strain! Most are just, "one offs" rare phenos that showed a different expression.

I have gotten VERY high, smoking 17% THC, weed, as much as 26% weed!
I think a lot of the individual characteristics of indica/sativa, have been muddled together.

I believe terpenes have a MUCH greater impact on the "buzz" than people realize.
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Your hundred percent right on that. There actually going to put turpines and all other cannabinoids on labels now that there learning more. I've had indica that gives me energy. So definitely needs update on this topic. Like pinene is for different symptoms like say depression and if you see that on label you can know what to expect and flavors pine. Seed banks need this info for their gear also. But generally sativa energy, indica more body feeling and sleep but everyone different.
 
Scaccia450

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Dboybudz said:
Your hundred percent right on that. There actually going to put turpines and all other cannabinoids on labels now that there learning more. I've had indica that gives me energy. So definitely needs update on this topic. Like pinene is for different symptoms like say depression and if you see that on label you can know what to expect and flavors pine. Seed banks need this info for their gear also. But generally sativa energy, indica more body feeling and sleep but everyone different.
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I agree I also tried Hybrid 14% cbd and zero % thc strain. Perfect, someone said cbd does not get you high but me said not true. It get high in a deffrent version, more body tingles and ceberal, good for mornin 100% cure paranoia, me get alot paranoia in thc no problem do hybrid 14% cbd zero thc all gone in a instant.
 
StonedGardener

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Scaccia450 said:
I agree I also tried Hybrid 14% cbd and zero % thc strain. Perfect, someone said cbd does not get you high but me said not true. It get high in a deffrent version, more body tingles and ceberal, good for mornin 100% cure paranoia, me get alot paranoia in thc no problem do hybrid 14% cbd zero thc all gone in a instant.
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What ?
 
Scaccia450

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StonedGardener said:
What ?
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sorry my english is bad . Today I try a strain hybird 14% cbd and zero % thc. I was told cbd does not get u high but I belive this a myth. because I did get high but it was verry deffrent more ceberal and rush and body tingly zero sedative. Vs thc will get you stoned eye droppy verry paranoid uplifting ephuoria ect. Also I can 100% confirm cbd cures and removes paranoia, so if you ever feel paranoid dooing a strain with 14% cbd and zero thc will work like magic.
 
StonedGardener

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Scaccia450 said:
sorry my english is bad . Today I try a strain hybird 14% cbd and zero % thc. I was told cbd does not get u high but I belive this a myth. because I did get high but it was verry deffrent more ceberal and rush and body tingly zero sedative. Vs thc will get you stoned eye droppy verry paranoid uplifting ephuoria ect. Also I can 100% confirm cbd cures and removes paranoia, so if you ever feel paranoid dooing a strain with 14% cbd and zero thc will work like magic.
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Sorry stoner dude ! I didn't realize you were Sicilian ( my room mate in college was Sicilian, last name Nasci....a real dude! My daughter swears by cbd . Thanks for the info, I never really gave it a chance.
 
Scaccia450

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StonedGardener said:
Sorry stoner dude ! I didn't realize you were Sicilian ( my room mate in college was Sicilian, last name Nasci....a real dude! My daughter swears by cbd . Thanks for the info, I never really gave it a chance.
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No problem me friend Yea general rule if sur name ends with I or A he from italia than Regione di sicilia
 
StonedGardener

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Scaccia450 said:
No problem me friend Yea general rule if sur name ends with I or A he from italia than Regione di sicilia
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Maybe an exception....he was always saying " Sicilians were not Italians " ! Is there a Sicilian curse called ( spelling probably way off ) called the " Maloike " ( Ma-loike)? My roommate was always using it.
 
conor c

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Scaccia450 said:
sorry my english is bad . Today I try a strain hybird 14% cbd and zero % thc. I was told cbd does not get u high but I belive this a myth. because I did get high but it was verry deffrent more ceberal and rush and body tingly zero sedative. Vs thc will get you stoned eye droppy verry paranoid uplifting ephuoria ect. Also I can 100% confirm cbd cures and removes paranoia, so if you ever feel paranoid dooing a strain with 14% cbd and zero thc will work like magic.
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CBD is mildly psychoactive not much but still a little it definitely is good for some of those who get anxious and can't handle even mild THC dominant strains I prefer a 50/50 ratio strain or thc dom low CBD stuff myself but each to there own whatever works for you works for you I like a bit of cbn in there too for night time stuff
 
Scaccia450

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StonedGardener said:
Maybe an exception....he was always saying " Sicilians were not Italians " ! Is there a Sicilian curse called ( spelling probably way off ) called the " Maloike " ( Ma-loike)? My roommate was always using it.
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Yes hahah :D Me friend you mean, malocchio or In sicilianu veru occhiu mali. But people use alot also malocchio. Wich means bad eae uhh evil eae looking but not good :lol:if that it mean bad eneegy or you can say curse. Sorri me english bad but...me put effort :lol::eyesmoke:
 
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conor c

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StonedGardener said:
Maybe an exception....he was always saying " Sicilians were not Italians " ! Is there a Sicilian curse called ( spelling probably way off ) called the " Maloike " ( Ma-loike)? My roommate was always using it.
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Yeah any Sicilians I've met aren't fond of being called Italian it is like calling Catalan people Spanish or a Scotsman as British sometimes lines aren't so clear as some would assume
 
Scaccia450

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conor c said:
Yeah any Sicilians I've met aren't fond of being called Italian it is like calling Catalan people Spanish or a Scotsman as British sometimes lines aren't so clear as some would assume
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Haha Yes me friend its true one time
conor c said:
Yeah any Sicilians I've met aren't fond of being called Italian it is like calling Catalan people Spanish or a Scotsman as British sometimes lines aren't so clear as some would assume
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Haha yes me friend true but internation wise we Italia no choice bc passport . One time carabinieri did cheack point stop. Me and friend was mad bc in Sicilia local carabinieri are not aloud to do this. Guess... what carabineri was from north italia he drove all the way south. Era Cornutto! Me and frined told him to fuck off thrre were other cars behind they also got down. Carabineri Tutto apposto ce problema Cornutto!! ca semu in sicilia.We drove away we almost runed him over :lol::eyesmoke:. Every regione have there own rules here
 
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Was hoping to find a thread like this here.

When I was budtending, we did, tried to do, things differently. We tried to get people to look beyond indica and sativa.
Indica and sativa are terms used to desrcibe how the plant grows and not effects. Some sativas grow short and christmas tree like, so even scinece isn't 100% accurate.
The size and shape of the plant can't tell you what the effects will be.

Knowing terpenes and cannabinoids (other than THC) can be really helpful. Especailly when you're dealing with issues like insominia, anxiety, and pain.
 
tstick

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The hybrids are SO deep and complex, now, it's impossible to say that one will be the same or different from the next. It's just become a big melting pot for everything. And many seed breeders can call any random hybrid anything they want to....."Ice Creamsicle Cake"..."Orange Dream"...etc. -whatever they've thrown together from whatever they ran. All of it just keeps getting more and more diluted and less and less individually-unique. Everything is kinda berries and lemony something with maybe a hint of vanilla dough....People sticking their whole face into the jar trying to detect something....lol....It's a far cry from the old school Sativa I remember.

But what you get from most breeders is hybrid marijuana....which really should become a third category of marijuana, in my opinion. I've grown a few SE Asian landrace (so-called) Sativas from modern seed sources and they all were bunk. As far as Indica go, every landrace Indica is Hindu Kush...isn't it? ;) Strawberry Fields....nothing is real. :)
 
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ive been smoking marijuana since i was a teenager and I've honestly never been able to tell the difference from sativa or indica every time results in the same effect mostly extreme munchies followed by an intense nap ahah.
 
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