SCROG and all SCROG related questions

I have been doing scrog for quite a few years now. I’ll give a rundown of basics and leave the floor open for any questions pertaining to scrog. The benefits to scrog are vast but I’ll name a few. Scrog utilizes the most from your lights and most efficient use of space indoors. Scrog elements larf and gives you almost all top colas. First things first, throwing a stretchy net over some plants is not scrog. When doing scrog you want a tight or taunt screen to work with, weaved is better. Typically a frame is gonna achieve this with pvc being the cleanest. I weave a new screen each run because I just cut the string at harvest for ease. Always tuck your plants never weave them in the screen. Timing is a huge factor in scrog, along with knowing what to trim. Anything that’s not above the screen gets cut off. Automated irrigation is definitely a bonus but not necessary. Most people don’t do scrog because they like to move their plants, I’m the exact opposite. I defoliate twice a run and after the stretch in flower never have to touch the plants again until harvest.

I’ll leave you all with some pictures of some of my scrogs and feel free to ask any questions if your interested.

Your scrogs are beautiful. I used to scrog, but it is so much work.

I’ll share one of the few scrog pics that I have. Dwc under a 150 hps

do totally agree with you on scrog being very efficient for nice consistent buds. A little pine forest lol

Very nice… great job nice and clean!

ChemDogLover said:

Your scrogs are beautiful. I used to scrog, but it is so much work.

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Honestly I don’t do much work other than stringing up the screen and tucking every few days. I would say the hardest part of my setup is laying underneath to defoliate and I only do it twice. It’s not for everyone tho that’s for sure. Yours looks great

SofaKingHigh_ said:

Honestly I don’t do much work other than stringing up the screen and tucking every few days. I would say the hardest part of my setup is laying underneath to defoliate and I only do it twice. It’s not for everyone tho that’s for sure. Yours looks great

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I appreciate the nice compliment, but my shit doesn’t compare to yours. My grow was when I very first started, 2002 or three I can’t even remember. Growing in a cabinet.

I have recently thought about doing some scrogging with some autos outdoors, it’s a great way to expose the plant to light

I've never done SCROG , Is it advantageous to try OUTDOORS? I have endless space, but was thinking to save a lot of work individually planting holes. ( I normally dig individual 18" X 18" X 24" holes and fill with my soil ). Was thinking SCROG might be ideal for me to put like a square foot garden type of deal possibly raised bed.
Big question ( I guess even indoors ) is there any 'rule of thumb" how many plants per square foot? I normally only grow 10F plants outdoors plus aditional 1M somewhere else on property.

Thanks. Happy Holidays to all.

HoundsNTrout said:

I've never done SCROG , Is it advantageous to try OUTDOORS? I have endless space, but was thinking to save a lot of work individually planting holes. ( I normally dig individual 18" X 18" X 24" holes and fill with my soil ). Was thinking SCROG might be ideal for me to put like a square foot garden type of deal possibly raised bed.
Big question ( I guess even indoors ) is there any 'rule of thumb" how many plants per square foot? I normally only grow 10F plants outdoors plus aditional 1M somewhere else on property.

Thanks. Happy Holidays to all.

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Scrog is less done outdoors because you’re working with the best brightest light, the sun. That said I have seen some amazing scrogs done outdoors. Almost always single plant scrogs outdoors though. Another reason it’s done less is because you have no control over the plant. I like to say Indoors you get to play god, greenhouse you get to play with god, and outdoors you get to experience god. A lot of guys use t posts and then wooden rods to make the screen.

HoundsNTrout said:

I've never done SCROG , Is it advantageous to try OUTDOORS? I have endless space, but was thinking to save a lot of work individually planting holes. ( I normally dig individual 18" X 18" X 24" holes and fill with my soil ). Was thinking SCROG might be ideal for me to put like a square foot garden type of deal possibly raised bed.
Big question ( I guess even indoors ) is there any 'rule of thumb" how many plants per square foot? I normally only grow 10F plants outdoors plus aditional 1M somewhere else on property.

Thanks. Happy Holidays to all.

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Outdoor scrogs can be awesome, they just require a bit more planning. Like SofaKing said you can't control when to flip the plant to flower as easily outdoors. However, with a little bit of light deprivation, you can fix that issue. I did 2 plants that way a few years ago in a little hoop house at a buddies. They both had 3x3 screens I wove from twine attached to a wooden frame, it worked great. I've seriously considered trying to do a long scrog outside instead of a big square, making it a long rectangle. Then stretching the plant out sideways to basically make a hedge almost. That way there would be more air flow from the sides, and it would be easier to reach all the parts of the plant.

Thundercat said:

Outdoor scrogs can be awesome, they just require a bit more planning. Like SofaKing said you can't control when to flip the plant to flower as easily outdoors. However, with a little bit of light deprivation, you can fix that issue. I did 2 plants that way a few years ago in a little hoop house at a buddies. They both had 3x3 screens I wove from twine attached to a wooden frame, it worked great. I've seriously considered trying to do a long scrog outside instead of a big square, making it a long rectangle. Then stretching the plant out sideways to basically make a hedge almost. That way there would be more air flow from the sides, and it would be easier to reach all the parts of the plant.

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The long rectangle is the way to go and plant at an angle and start training early

SofaKingHigh_ said:

The long rectangle is the way to go and plant at an angle and start training early

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I figured it could work well. I would probably try to grow out a 4-6 main stems and just keep training them sideways. Then the side branchs fro those could fill in the rest of the screen I think. Maybe this summer I'll try it. I don't have a spot for it at my house, but I bet my buddy would let me use a space at his again.

SofaKingHigh_ said:

The long rectangle is the way to go and plant at an angle and start training early

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When you say plant at an angle, meaning like the path the sun takes? OR?

Nice ideas I may try. The biggest thing I was thinking but maybe not? IDK is I would 'save' on digging 10+ separate holes for each plant like I normally do and I would sort of mingle all the plants in one 'pit' of sorts. IDK? Thoughts? Thanks guys ( and gals I'm sure ).

One of the usual ideas behind scrog is using less plants to fill the same space. Personally, I wouldn't be putting multiple plants close to each other, especially outside. They will get cramped, making it hard to work on the plants. They might compete with each other for nutrients if they are too close. You will also want airflow.

Outdoor scrog 6 plants fill this 20 x30 hoop house.

HoundsNTrout said:

When you say plant at an angle, meaning like the path the sun takes? OR?

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I’m saying when you transplant to final pot you would angle the pant as horizontal as root ball will let you. I have seen a guy modify a fabric pot so the plant was almost coming out the side for scrog.

Thundercat said:

One of the usual ideas behind scrog is using less plants to fill the same space. Personally, I wouldn't be putting multiple plants close to each other, especially outside. They will get cramped, making it hard to work on the plants. They might compete with each other for nutrients if they are too close. You will also want airflow.

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Yes a lot of scrog is done with less plants. I flit with this indoors because the more plants to fill the screen the less time I need to veg them compared to a single plant. Outdoors is definitely a bit different than indoors.

thumper60 said:

Outdoor scrog 6 plants fill this 20 x30 hoop house.View attachment 5359541

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Glorious

Well another scrog run in the books. Just a photo dump of harvest time. This run I grew out Topanga Sour Kush from flipsideseeds, Sleeping Monkey from 3rd coast genetics, and Misty’s Stash from dragons flame genetics.

SofaKingHigh_ said:

The long rectangle is the way to go and plant at an angle and start training early

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This is the way.
I dig bathtub shaped holes and frame and screen around it. Don’t tread in the hole.