well ive heard 8-8.5 weeks flower. i started counting my flowering time when i went 12/12, you are supposed to count at the first sign of preflowers. i still think its pretty close to when started, i am just starting to see amber trichs, not many but they are there. i will begin flushing next water...maybe 1.5 to 2 weeks? i got a new steam roller last night so i cut off one of my nugs up top but a small one, i quick cured it in the oven at 130 degrees till it felt half dry half moist....lit me off my ass too, i was saying the same thing, if its fire im curious how well itll be later.