SCROG OFF!! New school vs old school. Sealed rooms- 12 plants.

blah blah blah...books are good to a certain extent for the guy starting out but experience is where it's at...no two books will give the same info....trust me...I have all the major grow bibles...from ed to jorge to mel and so on...but none top hands on.

Edit....and to be honest...the best reads aren't even cannabis related...check out Maximum Yield, Rosebud, and Urban Gardener....all have online reads.

Legal heres an awesome link to foliar feeding... The heavyweights are swinging away.. https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/296685-lost-art-foliar-feeding.html What do you think caused your plant to not like it? Im foliar feeding tonight... going to stress the plants hacking at them... its going to get ugly in there... I had absolute hell knocking my ph down, couldnt believe how much ph down I hade to use,, I suppose the rez is chelated to hell....

http://www.simplyhydro.com/foliar_feeding.htm

I would suggest googling the references at the end

Seems like these guys are swinging for the fence Endless let them fight....Just saying cause they only shit talk too themselves.(not being a dick I love the shit talk)
But yes the books are all Diff. I rem. reading one years ago and what I learned on riu has added much knowledge and yes hands on is the best way to learn for anything really.
Frogster are you going too foilar feed during bloom?

legallyflying said:

Mostly I think because he grows in this brown stuff in round containers. Dirt? I think he called it?

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ROFL!!!! great man I'm working on getting a hydro system set up but until then soil it is......

Damn, .... good grief.. Anyone's opinion on that edge burning? .. a few pics of the jungle , I cant believe how much stuff is under there... I foliar feed tonight due to the cal deficiency ,, I added a liitle humic, enzymes and molasses with it.. and a touch of superthrive as i hacked the scrog tonight.... Im sure thinking about foliar feeding in bloom, I have everything for it...

frogster said:

Damn, Im looking at the "self diagnose your plants " thread and Its looking like potassium issues.... good grief.. Anyone's opinion on that edge burning? .. a few pics of the jungle , I cant believe how much stuff is under there...

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Going down. Going down so hard.

I just broke in my local church and "Borrowed" the Holy water.... its all good,,,,, I had 4 stuffed bags of trim, I stuffed all the larger ones in a pot of water, need to read up on what the hell to do with it... judging by the last pic, Im feeling the switch from the schwag gh nutes was a great decision.... Serapis mentioned tying down the larger taller shoots but hell, they are so random in size, screw it... Its a little too late for training , I can deal with an uneven canopy... the edges havnt burned anymore, surprisingly it was on the scrogged side and not the supercropped girls...

I'm subbed just for the shit talk....I love it!!!

yo legal, sorry i missed it, but what strain are you running? That is beautiful! Good work.

nugbuckets said:

yo legal, sorry i missed it, but what strain are you running? That is beautiful! Good work.

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Ummmmm. Aaaah. I thought it was mango kush and blue widow. But my resident weed guru (who gave me the clones) stopped by and said that my blue widow was affgoey. Pretty amazing he can just look at the bud and tell right away what it is.

Plants look really good. I do need to tie down about 4-5 shoots to even some things out. Flowers are I'm full swing and triches have begun to form.

aff"GOEY"? ugh, no, but close...Nug, its a Mexi-brick strain called "NeerWeed"... The finest strain from Mexico of course.... As you can tell from this strain, the colors (posted by Legal in previous pages) attract the non-connoisseur crowd (ie. old ladies,school kids, hippies that love acid, Big Bird ) as they will buy it for its prettiness and since they have 0 tolerance they are very happy with the end product... Legals marketing of this poor quality strain is nothing short of sheer genius. He once sold out his entire crop at a heavily trafficked roadside truckstop with a buy one get one free sale, the people were really buying his scented potpourri for the Steak Knives&apple core device that he was offering with the sale.... but we wont tell him that. The next day news reported a majority of the people fell ill from the additives he personally applies ("legals own" nutrient line, hand squeezed amino acids,uric acids and "Mantien" a flagella protein) he adds these in an attempt to get a true Marijuana High. Luckily no-one caught his tag number. Once an Acid hippie customer after handling Legals "NearWeed" thought he was going to get high from his burning&bloodshot retinas, but quickly discovered it was due to the fact that he wiped his eyes after handling legals "Mantien" saturated product.. The Hippie was actually pleased with the effect from this (the only effect),all his friends tried it, and now Legal has a solid base of customers. Legal doesnt post pictures on this journal much due to the fact that his hands are sore producing large quantities of his nutrient line for the masses, cumming to a hydro shop near you, includes the steak knives &apple core, of course....

My canopy is way uneven, I was going to tie down but the short ones are on the ends,,, All the tall ones are in the middle where they get more light of course, so I see no reason to hinder the larger center buds as they are all fairly even... I could have probably used a little more track on the lightrail and the timer delay needs to be adjustable for a longer stop period... dam, separate the room, separate the room.. 2000w over the scrog, move the lights 12 hrs later,,, build a separation, modify control box... hhmmm. uhh, no, pain in the ass.......

Got Manic?

Things have slowed since the hack job on the scrog... my ph climbs like mad, and its a bitch to get down.. takes so much freaking ph down..its aggravating.. I read so much how these nutes and all these supplements are chelated and keep thing s stable... i put the airstones on the power side of the control box pump so it only comes on during fill, but that doesnt seem to help.. I did add a small pump to the large rez to keep circulation going.

Keep it aerated all the time. Sugars can make ph swing. You have to add ph down cause your ppm's are high. Don't stress. I would worry more about your impending bone crushing defeat

Here are a few more pics, really early (parts are darker) then the beginning burned edges and then the final look.... To recap, Im using humdoldts mastera&b, sea mag, ginourmous, fulvic acid, added 2ml Hi-brix for my bennie tea(aquashield,zho, molasses, ewc) 4mlhygrozyme just added 2 days ago...feeding 3 15min times during lights on and one at night to let oxygen to the roots, ppm are right at 800 with tap being 60ppm, ppm were climbing until today..it seems to have leveled off... rez temps at lights on about 60 degrees.. high room temp is about 78max.... roots may be getting too cold during lights off and cool nutes may be locking out P??? I added a 12% calcium (also has iron and mg)and foliar feed with it .. I have had high ph for a couple of days and had a difficult time knocking it down,,, The deficiency seems to have slowed and the leaves changing now may be from the deficiency, although showing up a little late?

The scrogged ladies grew last night, nice white hairs showing on all the sites now... the nutes are at 750 and my ph still climbed from 5.6-6.5 in 12hrs. with the airstones in... I will lower the ph and the ppm a little more tonight... I will add another heater to the room for lights out, trying to keep it from getting below 65.. next few days are going to be really cold (-14 low, 5 for the high) and Im sure that the one heater cant keep things warm in there....

huh your climbing PH sounds weird but then again, you have a metric shit ton of different stuff in your rez.