Second grow (clones from the first)

Cannadab1s

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Wisher2 said:
hey I was wondering if you could give me a few pointers on maybe upping my production quality of quantity
I seem to be doing ok but any advice would be appreciated
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I just dont seem to have a grasp on this growing thing
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any advice on how to up my game would be really helpful
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To start, your petioles were turning purple at the back of that last pic on the other thread. And in today's day and age, you should be at least using vero29 instead of cxb3590s if you want to go the COB route. Arent veros like cheaper and more efficient if ran at a lower voltage? You probably knew that already though since youre the self proclaimed expert.

Oh my, a big pile of weed. Post the plants before they are cut so we can critique your growing techniques and your looks to be pre bought or at least fancy as fuck COBs.

My internodal spacing owned yours. Why dont u reply to me on that thread? Lol

Why did u have to pm me to show me your lights? You answer half the shit in pm? Fucks wrong with u? Lol
 
Wisher2

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did you say something about putple?
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dude you have 2ft of plant material

I have 6
mind you my moms are sitting in 3gal fabric pots
all you have to do is compare the pot to the plant hight
as you are sitting in a 5gal bucket
you have some pretty small plants and even smaller buds
 
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Wisher2

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find the purple
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oh by the way
I apologize for putting together professional looking lights
that is wish tech 2015
pretty much paid for itself
3years oly $350.00 in material
 
Wisher2

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Cannadab1s said:
To start, your petioles were turning purple at the back of that last pic on the other thread. And in today's day and age, you should be at least using vero29 instead of cxb3590s if you want to go the COB route. Arent veros like cheaper and more efficient if ran at a lower voltage? You probably knew that already though since youre the self proclaimed expert.

Oh my, a big pile of weed. Post the plants before they are cut so we can critique your growing techniques and your looks to be pre bought or at least fancy as fuck COBs.

My internodal spacing owned yours. Why dont u reply to me on that thread? Lol

Why did u have to pm me to show me your lights? You answer half the shit in pm? Fucks wrong with u? Lol
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also never PM'd you my lights

here is the extent of our pm conversation
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so that is the entire pm

and by the way
no QB's still dont outperform COB's
not that I have seen
Not on this sight
the home of QB's No?
 

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Wisher2 said:
also never PM'd you my lights

here is the extent of our pm conversation
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so that is the entire pm

and by the way
no QB's still dont outperform COB's
not that I have seen
Not on this sight
the home of QB's No?
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Strips would be better for corners and have less hotspots so can get closer for cheaper vs runni g tons of cobs at low power... Lm561c s6 bin doides or even the newer 200+ lm/w ones that quantum ia tinkering with at the moment. Again..samsung diodes. A custom strip build would blow COBs out of the water. Quantum is just a ripoff of samsungs doides. All quantum does is gets china to make them a PDB. Good ole rollitup.

My journey on this site started with realizing that quantum boards are just a buncha samsung diodes on a PDB. Lol
 
Wisher2

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Cannadab1s said:
Day 36 flower and looking fine as ever :)

That is all

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My lil DIY setup. Does the trick.

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hey whats up with all those purple stems?
Dosnt that mean the plant is in need of something, Magnesium perhaps?

Hey didnt you say something about Samsung Strip
you are running Citizens arent you? How budget friendly. But isnt that "old tech"? Isnt that what you were schooling me on? How my 3590's were old
and because my lights look professional that somehow that is "Shit Garbage"?
but yet my 3590's that I have been running since 2015 are light years ahead of your citizens....literally...
"not tryin to be an ass" just pointing out the obvious.....you know.....trying to give you positive pointers
 
Cannadab1s

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Wisher2 said:
did you say something about putple?
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dude you have 2ft of plant material

I have 6
mind you my moms are sitting in 3gal fabric pots
all you have to do is compare the pot to the plant hight
as you are sitting in a 5gal bucket
you have some pretty small plants and even smaller buds
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I want you to document your most epic grow to show me up. These plants will be done soon and id like to compare.

Wheres all your bud shots? No one gives a shit about veg plants. Why u showing me a zoomed in tiny lil foxtail looking bud? Lets see sone full near end budding pics
 
Wisher2

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Cannadab1s said:
Strips would be better for corners and have less hotspots so can get closer for cheaper vs runni g tons of cobs at low power... Lm561c s6 bin doides or even the newer 200+ lm/w ones that quantum ia tinkering with at the moment. Again..samsung diodes. A custom strip build would blow COBs out of the water. Quantum is just a ripoff of samsungs doides. All quantum does is gets china to make them a PDB. Good ole rollitup.

My journey on this site started with realizing that quantum boards are just a buncha samsung diodes on a PDB. Lol
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so.....how long did it take you to realize quantum were just Samsung diodes? bro come on

and I would switch over if I had the money to throw around on toys
but until Samsung can show me that they outperform my Cree's there is no use spending money

but if you want to get serious

http://ledgardener.com/diy-led-strip-build-designs-samsung-bridgelux/
has the parts list and everything for you

but none of this explains why you have 2ft plants in 5gal buckets

just seems like a waste of Peatmoss

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coco grown
 
Cannadab1s

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Wisher2 said:
hey whats up with all those purple stems?
Dosnt that mean the plant is in need of something, Magnesium perhaps?

Hey didnt you say something about Samsung Strip
you are running Citizens arent you? How budget friendly. But isnt that "old tech"? Isnt that what you were schooling me on? How my 3590's were old
and because my lights look professional that somehow that is "Shit Garbage"?
but yet my 3590's that I have been running since 2015 are light years ahead of your citizens....literally...
"not tryin to be an ass" just pointing out the obvious.....you know.....trying to give you positive pointers
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According to the jorges cervantes excess and deficiency chart, purple stems are a result of a sulfur deficiency combined with an overall nute def. Is jorges wrong? And you are right instead

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For my first grow, i happened to not pick the most epic lights out there. But i got a sweet deal on citi from kingbrite. Not the scam artists on here. Lol

165USD shipped for a meanwell 240h c1400a and passive heatsinks with 4 citi cobs kit. Id say good price.

If i knew about strips before i hit the button on COBs, i would have had a strip build. Samsung Strips are better. Period. Even vero cobs are better and cheaper than both if ours. See how im pushing products that im not using? Cause im just listing the best. .
 
Wisher2

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Cannadab1s said:
I want you to document your most epic grow to show me up. These plants will be done soon and id like to compare.

Wheres all your bud shots? No one gives a shit about veg plants. Why u showing me a zoomed in tiny lil foxtail looking bud? Lets see sone full near end budding pics
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is this all you have to say

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Cannadab1s

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Wisher2 said:
so.....how long did it take you to realize quantum were just Samsung diodes? bro come on

and I would switch over if I had the money to throw around on toys
but until Samsung can show me that they outperform my Cree's there is no use spending money

but if you want to get serious

http://ledgardener.com/diy-led-strip-build-designs-samsung-bridgelux/
has the parts list and everything for you

but none of this explains why you have 2ft plants in 5gal buckets

just seems like a waste of Peatmoss

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coco grown
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Your right. It was a waste of peatmoss. Till i reuse it. Lol.

Your lil handfull of roots are cute.

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This was the roots in my lil 2ft plant while i experimented. I was trying to keep a short plant..but i guess that doesn't matter. . You gonna hate on me for experimenting and not just following blindly?

Ive seen what happens on here to the ones who follow orders from the in crowd...
 
Wisher2

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Cannadab1s said:
According to the jorges cervantes excess and deficiency chart, purple stems are a result of a sulfur deficiency combined with an overall nute def. Is jorges wrong? And you are right instead

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For my first grow, i happened to not pick the most epic lights out there. But i got a sweet deal on citi from kingbrite. Not the scam artists on here. Lol

165USD shipped for a meanwell 240h c1400a and passive heatsinks with 4 citi cobs kit. Id say good price.

If i knew about strips before i hit the button on COBs, i would have had a strip build. Samsung Strips are better. Period. Even vero cobs are better and cheaper than both if ours. See how im pushing products that im not using? Cause im just listing the best. .
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actually I have a buddy running vero's
still not as good as cree sorry
samsung strips
nope not as good yet
show me a grow with samsung that outperforms anything
I was thinkin of building a strip light to replace my T-5 's in the nursery
hahhaha
Jorge Cervantes
dude you have a lot to learn
 
Wisher2

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Cannadab1s said:
Your right. It was a waste of peatmoss. Till i reuse it. Lol.

Your lil handfull of roots are cute.

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This was the roots in my lil 2ft plant while i experimented. I was trying to keep a short plant..but i guess that doesn't matter. . You gonna hate on me for experimenting and not just following blindly?

Ive seen what happens on here to the ones who follow orders from the in crowd...
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my little roots produces 4' plants with 100g dry flower per plant from 1/2 gal pots
hahahah dude nothing you say has any validity bro
sorry
 
Cannadab1s

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Wisher2 said:
actually I have a buddy running vero's
still not as good as cree sorry
samsung strips
nope not as good yet
show me a grow with samsung that outperforms anything
I was thinkin of building a strip light to replace my T-5 's in the nursery
hahhaha
Jorge Cervantes
dude you have a lot to learn
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Even the date sheets say otherwise. Lol. Anyways....

A lot to learn...everyone...this guy is the new dude who replaced all previous growing knowledge. The new expert. Bow down. Check out his new book cause hes so damn pro and he will sell you anything
 
Cannadab1s

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Wisher2 said:
my little roots produces 4' plants with 100g dry flower per plant from 1/2 gal pots
hahahah dude nothing you say has any validity bro
sorry
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Quality over quantity....you got some brown spots on that shit. Rust spots...makes sense now why that girl does too now. Ha...want me to highlight it? Lol. Stay tuned to see how much my shitty lil grow produces.
 
Wisher2

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Cannadab1s said:
Quality over quantity....you got some brown spots on that shit. Rust spots...makes sense now why that girl does too now. Ha...want me to highlight it? Lol. Stay tuned to see how much my shitty lil grow produces.
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dude you are lost bro
climb out of your bubble

nope no HPS for flower
3590's 3500k ran at 2.1a

as for quality ehh I do alright
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cant complain

but maybe I just havnt seen quality yet
 
Wisher2

Wisher2

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Cannadab1s said:
Your right. It was a waste of peatmoss. Till i reuse it. Lol.

Your lil handfull of roots are cute.

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This was the roots in my lil 2ft plant while i experimented. I was trying to keep a short plant..but i guess that doesn't matter. . You gonna hate on me for experimenting and not just following blindly?

Ive seen what happens on here to the ones who follow orders from the in crowd...
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could have sworn your 2' was in a 5gal
 
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