Second grow, using clones from first.

Ok figured out why the 4 count side were struggling the most, and probably the cause of weird behaviour in general.. One light timer set to ON instead of AUTO.. FML.. Hope they don't reveg, I think they had two full nights interrupted..

When feeding earlier I found this leaf mid part of one plant. Tried to light through it but marks appear black.
Also very brittle where it is dark coloured. Anyone have ideas?


Buds developing though! And right now they have that amazing candy smell.

Think all my clones show roots by now cloner does indeed make things easier. Pretty much set and forget.

Changed water in cloner. First time since I out them in there, except a couple liters refill a few times.
Were only plain non phed water before. Now there is 25% (1ml/L) a+b veg nutes and hydroguard. Didn't bother with the calmag cause no coco.

Big ladies flowering but not thriving as much as I would like.
50%(2ml/L) a+b flower full nutrition.
33%(0.3ml/L) calmag.
100%(0.5ml/L) hydroguard.
PH up.
I aim for 5.8 but vary 5.7-6.1 mostly.
Seem a little pale to me. Some burn, worst on the heaviest drinker.
Couple hours ago:

Been almost a week, here is a little update.


3 count sides canopy is starting to get lower on sides hah. It is allready struggling with the weight. Kinda knew this was going to happen though, as I pretty much bent them full horizontal at the end with no support..



Edit: if u zoom in on buds, you can see some of them are turning orange. Is this cause of me accidentally touching them or natural? Happened last time as well, same with the accidents hah..

My poor ladies...
Didn't make them strong enough to keep themselves up.
3 count side is not doing well without support so did my thing on them. Hanging on but they are not looking
their best!
On 4 count side one tipped over when barely touched it, looks a little rough as well. Did same thing as 3 count side, supporting with wire.

Been tweaking on my auto watering system ball valves lately, to get the distribution right between the pots. Figured out fast that small adjustments is the way to go. Wish I did all this before the room filled up. My back hurts..

Oh BTW if u have timers where 1 minute is minimum on-time, do urself a favor and don't use a 6000L waterpump. It will flood the pots so hard. I could choke it with my valves but a little afraid of pressure?
U see I've read that sprinklers, drippers, etc will mostly drip(not spray/sprinkle) when using a water pump instead of the regular waterpipe line.
Let me tell u with this of a pump it did not drip - it made a mess.. So changed things up using big one for circulation and a 1000L to feed them. Fingers crossed 1 min feed is not gonna waste too much nutrient. Trying 3x feed daily first and take it from there.

Pics from earlier today. You can tell which are falling over.. But idgaf as long as I Dont get mold/rot and branches not breaking, fingers crossed.

Put some trellis netting up, my gosh those girls are gorgeous

Onextremebuzz said:

Put some trellis netting up, my gosh those girls are gorgeous

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Don't think it's late for that? Next run I use trellis no doubt.
And thank you

Nope take alot of work but I'm sure you can figure it out. Use garden twine and work it through the plants

Onextremebuzz said:

Nope take alot of work but I'm sure you can figure it out. Use garden twine and work it through the plants

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Might have worded myself a little poorly, my bad. I do use garden wire and support the branches I can reach. The one in Front and some in the back on other side.
If u look at the pics, I used screws to attach a wire from wall to wall, above canopy. Then wires from branches get attached to this wire.

When u said trellis I assumed we were talking about using a sort of netting.

Destroyer of chairs said:

Might have worded myself a little poorly, my bad. I do use garden wire and support the branches I can reach. The one in Front and some in the back on other side.
If u look at the pics, I used screws to attach a wire from wall to wall, above canopy. Then wires from branches get attached to this wire.

When u said trellis I assumed we were talking about using a sort of netting.

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I was but I'd imagine you would need 3 other people and yourself some crawling and broom sticks to pass it over some imagination. You can do the same with garden twine just send the kids to crawl between the plants.

Onextremebuzz said:

I was but I'd imagine you would need 3 other people and yourself some crawling and broom sticks to pass it over some imagination. You can do the same with garden twine just send the kids to crawl between the plants.

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Yeah, that's a no for me. Don't have the help or health to do it alone. Right now would be handy with those kids, too bad they don't exist hah appreciate the visual guide, gave me ideas.
Last grow I didn't encounter this prolem so early, but it was there. And when they tip over its messy to get them back up in correct positions and stay there, even with support.
Made me think maybe I support at the wrong places.

Where do u put ur hooks?

I'd just attach them to the wall. Maybe I'd rig a pole in each corner so I could adjust the net. Some of that fencing post or pvc or whatever works white pvc seems to be a good anchor.

It be similar to this

Cut a 2x4 in to little blocks, drill a hole in the center of each block, put the pvc pipe in that's cut to length attach one to floor and one to the roof. Just make sure it's not coming out of there and its tough.

Onextremebuzz said:

It be similar to this

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Sorry, my bad again. Hooks I'm talking about is the ones I make of bent wire and attach to the plant. Ment where on the plant do u attach ur support wires?

As mentioned I then attach them to the wire hanging over canopy as opposed to the walls. Last run tape, wall and thread was how I did it. Didn't like the direction it pulled them though.

Meh I'd just get a net maybe even 2. One to scrog the next for support. Better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it. Its always the simple things that make the biggest differences.

Onextremebuzz said:

Cut a 2x4 in to little blocks, drill a hole in the center of each block, put the pvc pipe in that's cut to length attach one to floor and one to the roof. Just make sure it's not coming out of there and its tough.

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Thx for the tips. I like DIY solutions so this is great stuff.

TIMERS, what can I say? Hate them and love them.
For those who have followed my grow, u might remember my fat fingers accidentally pressing a button on a timer, resulting in a 48 hour long lights on duration on one row?
Not so sure that is the case anymore. U see yesterday that same row, were on when I entered the room during lights out. First thought was "fuck I did it again!", so I checked the timer but nothing seemed to be wrong with settings. Tried cycle through auto-on-off, but no matter what program it stays on. Piece of shit garbage obviously broke..

So now I'm manually turning them on off. Out shopping tomorrow. Should I replace my other timers of same brand? Its pretty much all of them.