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kho20

kho20

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okay i posted some pics of these earlier they are on day 11 flower ( put in flower a week after showing sex) and now the taller plant is seeming to have problems the leaves drooped and went soft and dark green both plants are of dark color but this is darker , 2 leaves started this bout 5 days ago but today most of the middle ones did this too

ive searched thru countless threads, googled everything i could think of and well here i am lol

so i think i got it narrowed down to

1.phosphourus deficency
2.under watered...( i jus watered so in alil bit i mite be able to rule this out)
3. god damn MG soil
4. the 4 drops in a 16oz water bottle of schultz 10-15-10 ( the bottle was split between the plants and the other is not any signs)
5. some thing i havent thought of?

room temps flux from 88 on 77 off

rh 35%to 45%

lights all cfls 2 68 watt 2400k in hood with ducting from fan to hood( ghetto cool tube)
6 26 watt full spectrem

intake fan to lights and ac return system removes air from the room ( a good air flow)

MG soil in 2 gallon pots damn MG nutes in soil

very light use of schultz 10-15-10

the first 2 pics are now the third is on 8-1
 

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chitownsmoking

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you have nute burn you can tell this by the tips of leaves being burnt nothing to serious dont add shit {nutes} to that soil for 90 days. also dont overwater. or underwater
 
Green Cross

Green Cross

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kho20 said:
okay i posted some pics of these earlier they are on day 11 flower ( put in flower a week after showing sex) and now the taller plant is seeming to have problems the leaves drooped and went soft and dark green both plants are of dark color but this is darker , 2 leaves started this bout 5 days ago but today most of the middle ones did this too

ive searched thru countless threads, googled everything i could think of and well here i am lol

so i think i got it narrowed down to

1.phosphourus deficency
2.under watered...( i jus watered so in alil bit i mite be able to rule this out)
3. god damn MG soil
4. the 4 drops in a 16oz water bottle of schultz 10-15-10 ( the bottle was split between the plants and the other is not any signs)
5. some thing i havent thought of?

room temps flux from 88 on 77 off

rh 35%to 45%

lights all cfls 2 68 watt 2400k in hood with ducting from fan to hood( ghetto cool tube)
6 26 watt full spectrem

intake fan to lights and ac return system removes air from the room ( a good air flow)

MG soil in 2 gallon pots damn MG nutes in soil

very light use of schultz 10-15-10

the first 2 pics are now the third is on 8-1
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"room temps flux from 88 on 77 off"

Yeah, but what is the temperature under the lights? Looks like heat stress
 
kho20

kho20

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yeah the last feeding was gonna be my last one til thier done so ill jus keep them on thier watering schedule then ,,, cool so you think theyll perk up ive never had this problem outside lol i was forced to grow in side this crop so any help down the home streach would be cool

i was thinking bout flushing but i dont think i can since the nutes in the soil are water released rite?
 
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chitownsmoking

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up your air intake untill temps get decent. do not feed for a while or you will be sorry. and yes they will be fine dont try and do too much for them in that soil. and def. do not try to flush the shit out cuzz ur plants will end up crispy
 
kho20

kho20

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i keep my thermometer under next to the edge of the hood its so i think its reading the temp there

ill check it tho with another one to be sure real quick tho

its that lil box in the third pic but its been moved to the front side
 
kho20

kho20

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chitownsmoking said:
up your air intake untill temps get decent. do not feed for a while or you will be sorry. and yes they will be fine dont try and do too much for them in that soil. and def. do not try to flush the shit out cuzz ur plants will end up crispy
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thats what i thought would happen,, i got it on ill have to go grab another fan then also i leave the grow room door open when the lights are on too from the start i think thats helped keep them from getting any higher

so you guys think 88 is to high?
 
Green Cross

Green Cross

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kho20 said:
thats what i thought would happen,, i got it on ill have to go grab another fan then also i leave the grow room door open when the lights are on too from the start i think thats helped keep them from getting any higher

so you guys think 88 is to high?
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If it's 88 under the canopy it's a little warn but that doesn't explain the drooping.

I bet I know what it is; suffocation

Are the holes in the bottom of your containers breathing or are they blocked by whatever you have the pots sitting on. Plastic sheeting on carpet?
 
kho20

kho20

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the smaller plant thats not showing this is on 2x4s its older but shorter

the one im havin problems with is on a towel on top of carpet

ill put it on some blocks to see if this suffocation is it

jus put 2 digital thermometers under the lights and both read 86 and the rh is 40% at the moment and thier cool to the touch
 
Green Cross

Green Cross

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kho20 said:
the smaller plant thats not showing this is on 2x4s its older but shorter

the one im havin problems with is on a towel on top of carpet

ill put it on some blocks to see if this suffocation is it

jus put 2 digital thermometers under the lights and both read 86 and the rh is 40% at the moment and thier cool to the touch
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Cool, hopefully that helps. GL
 
otwa2002

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i have used mg for years and no problems with it, looks like either temp or lack of water, mg dries out fairly quickly on hot days, try giving some more water and check in a few hours see if it perks back up.
 
kho20

kho20

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otwa2002 said:
i have used mg for years and no problems with it, looks like either temp or lack of water, mg dries out fairly quickly on hot days, try giving some more water and check in a few hours see if it perks back up.
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i actually liked the soil so far this is the first time i used it with the nutes added in tho im not afan of that,, and quick lil question do you also get red leaf stems when you use MG?

i watered earlier so im hoping thats it nothin serious lol

well im gonna go work on raising it off alil for airflow like GC said

ill post back to nite or whenever the situation changes

thanks for all you guys help this quick
 
JeepBeep

JeepBeep

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I dont know if it just me or what, but I think because you are using that car sun visor (which the reflective side is made to absorb and disperse the heat) and you have that side facing you lights, so it prob. trapping alot of hot stale are. Those Visors arents a solid reflective material like mylar, there is a foam insulation in the center.

That thing could be trapping some nast stuff.

Just My opinion though.
 
kho20

kho20

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ill have to look in to that my theory behind it is that if it keeps a vehicle comfortable in the summer heat and reflects the sun it should have good reflective proprieties,and this ones the same on both sides so i dont think it matters which side woould face the plants , as for heat storage idk thats what im gonna check into but thank you for the suggestion for real tho

as for the plants i raised my light another inch moved my fan from the floor to hanging even with the tops i raised that one plants pot and ran a big shop fan for a lil bit to remove the old air so ill post up in the morning to tell ya guys if its solved and what not

thanks for the replies too and i think the main heat is from the top lights ballast according to my thermometers its hotter there than on the spiral so oh and this is what on the other side on=f the hood if yall were wondering
 

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kho20

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jus so you guys kno everything is back in order and thier coming a round i made major changes to my setup and apparently one of the fixed it
 
kho20

kho20

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well i raised the pot then raised my light another inch moved my fan to where it hangs even with the light and blows on it and i soaked them both now my temps stay under 86 and the plants are looking good so i guess it was the heat of the ballasts
 
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