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ukdave

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Newbierock said:
That's pretty shocking, it's sad to see how much is wasted on such a harmless drug. perhaps if they spent the money on busting crackheads. - Or maybe even funding education. Shit, they could even help poor people. :|
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Vote 2 Legalize Marijuana said:
How true it is! I would be happy with just better medical marijuana laws.

I'm a medical marijuana user and it was terrible trying to get on the system. It's not that it is a real hard thing to do, but trying to get a doctor, or doctor's to back you up no matter how fucked up you are is near to impossible first off.

Second off, In Colorado you have to have an on going treatment that is related to the disability by your doctor. Someone such as myself who broke his neck and can still walk but with difficulty, has a hard time getting treatment because there are none per-say to help with our severe pains and muscle spasms. Thus the reason for trying to be a medical marijuana user. But the law states you have to have an on going treatment with your doctor. Catch 22 I think they call that.
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Just to say my muscle spasms went away after I was prescribed a course of vitamin D, and iron (Ferrous Fumarate) for a stomach related issue, it was an unexpected result, my thumb nails had turned white due to poor nutrient uptake. I thought I it was a pinched nerve in my neck and upper back it took me ages to figure out it was spasms and as you know the affected area can take over a week to recover from.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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Kervork said:
So your solution to a labor shortage is to allow uncontrolled immigration. Guess we see how that works in 2022.
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so what's your solution? do you have robots in your garage that will pick strawberries? do you have elves you can contact that will hoe sugar beets?
do you have a closet full of gnomes that want to work at mcdonalds?......Americans will not do this work, they never have...why would they start now? theres a chronic labor shortage right now, anyone that wants a job can get one...i have to believe they don't want to work...they may say the wages are too low, but they're not lower than being unemployed with no unemployment coming in...so what's your magic solution? who do you have in your back pocket to take all of those agricultural and service industry jobs Americans don't want and won't do?
 
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Kervork

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
so what's your solution? do you have robots in your garage that will pick strawberries? do you have elves you can contact that will hoe sugar beets?
do you have a closet full of gnomes that want to work at mcdonalds?......Americans will not do this work, they never have...why would they start now? theres a chronic labor shortage right now, anyone that wants a job can get one...i have to believe they don't want to work...they may say the wages are too low, but they're not lower than being unemployed with no unemployment coming in...so what's your magic solution? who do you have in your back pocket to take all of those agricultural and service industry jobs Americans don't want and won't do?
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Ahh.. the myth of illegals do jobs Americans won't do. Spout that crap to someone in the construction industry and see how fast you wind up with a boot in your ass. Americans historically have done framing and concrete and roofing and drywall however the construction industry has been flooded with immigrant labor and pretty much everyone I know in the industry is pissed, other than perhaps some of the contractors who are hiring illegals. To a man they voted for Trump. But that's the Democrat way, shit on someone repeatedly and wonder why they don't vote for you.

Government's job is to regulate the border and control access. The government's job is not to manipulate the labor market by turning a blind eye to illegal immigration. My solution is that the agricultural industry and the service industry work out their labor issues however the hell they are going to work it out without direct government intervention or indirect intervention by turning a blind eye to illegal immigration.

Government does the limited jobs given to it, we do everything else. That was kind of the whole idea and every time we deviate from that it goes to shit.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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Kervork said:
Ahh.. the myth of illegals do jobs Americans won't do. Spout that crap to someone in the construction industry and see how fast you wind up with a boot in your ass. Americans historically have done framing and concrete and roofing and drywall however the construction industry has been flooded with immigrant labor and pretty much everyone I know in the industry is pissed, other than perhaps some of the contractors who are hiring illegals. To a man they voted for Trump. But that's the Democrat way, shit on someone repeatedly and wonder why they don't vote for you.

Government's job is to regulate the border and control access. The government's job is not to manipulate the labor market by turning a blind eye to illegal immigration. My solution is that the agricultural industry and the service industry work out their labor issues however the hell they are going to work it out without direct government intervention or indirect intervention by turning a blind eye to illegal immigration.

Government does the limited jobs given to it, we do everything else. That was kind of the whole idea and every time we deviate from that it goes to shit.
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ah the myth of someone sticking their boot in my ass...
you are so fucking full of shit you stink through my monitor. there's no fucking way there are enough americans willing to do the dirty low paying seasonal farm work that has to get done. without someone to do it, it won't get done, and that means not just higher prices, but empty shelves at the grocery store.
you did NOT supply a reasonable answer, you supplied a fucking fantasy that ain't going to happen any time soon. get in touch with reality, before you tell me i'm dealing in myths

https://www.fb.org/issues/immigration-reform/agriculture-labor-reform/economic-impact-of-immigration/

https://www.fwd.us/news/immigrant-farmworkers-and-americas-food-production-5-things-to-know/

https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/farm-economy/farm-labor/

our society has changed so much in the last 100 years that there are not enough people still living in farming country to do the work, too many have moved into urban areas looking for work outside the family farms that used to be a major part of many more people's lives, and they found that work for the most part, there is no incentive for them to go back to harder work for lower wages...
 
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Kervork

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nypost.com

Exclusive | Biden secretly flying underage migrants into NY in dead of night

Planeloads of immigrants are being flown into New York under the cover of darkness in an effort by Biden’s administration to quietly resettle them.
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Lot of strawberries to be picked in New York in the middle of winter. I recall when I was a child, driving past the lettuce fields seeing hundreds of Hatians working. Wait... Not.

If these people were destined to work in agriculture why are they being sent to urban areas?

This has nothing to do with agriculture. These people are not going to be working in agricultural jobs.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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Kervork said:
nypost.com

Exclusive | Biden secretly flying underage migrants into NY in dead of night

Planeloads of immigrants are being flown into New York under the cover of darkness in an effort by Biden’s administration to quietly resettle them.
nypost.com nypost.com

Lot of strawberries to be picked in New York in the middle of winter. I recall when I was a child, driving past the lettuce fields seeing hundreds of Hatians working. Wait... Not.

If these people were destined to work in agriculture why are they being sent to urban areas?

This has nothing to do with agriculture. These people are not going to be working in agricultural jobs.
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no point in continuing this useless conversation. i've made points that you just ignore, you've not offered one shred of proof to back up your statements, you just bray horseshit...i got no time for anyone who thinks the new york post is a reliable source of information....did your national enquirer subscription run out?
 
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Kervork

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Your entire argument that laws should be ignored and unregulated border crossing should be allowed to provide farm labor is the biggest pile of horse shit I have heard this week and I have heard a lot. These people are not being sent off to agricultural jobs, they are being sent to urban areas across the country. They will not be working in agriculture they will be working in restaurants and construction and undermining everyone who is trying to increase wages. Once again the democrats shit all over the people they expect to vote for them and wonder why Trump gets elected instead.
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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Kervork said:
Your entire argument that laws should be ignored and unregulated border crossing should be allowed to provide farm labor is the biggest pile of horse shit I have heard this week and I have heard a lot. These people are not being sent off to agricultural jobs, they are being sent to urban areas across the country. They will not be working in agriculture they will be working in restaurants and construction and undermining everyone who is trying to increase wages. Once again the democrats shit all over the people they expect to vote for them and wonder why Trump gets elected instead.
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BAhaha
Jobs are plentiful workers not so much and please don’t say but unemployment blah blah blah
Your gonna have to send your spoiled kids to harvest cause the rest of us aren’t building your business based on paying folks poverty wages
Americans are woke thanks to the mango Mussolini
 
dudeoflife

dudeoflife

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Kervork said:
nypost.com

Exclusive | Biden secretly flying underage migrants into NY in dead of night

Planeloads of immigrants are being flown into New York under the cover of darkness in an effort by Biden’s administration to quietly resettle them.
nypost.com nypost.com

Lot of strawberries to be picked in New York in the middle of winter. I recall when I was a child, driving past the lettuce fields seeing hundreds of Hatians working. Wait... Not.

If these people were destined to work in agriculture why are they being sent to urban areas?

This has nothing to do with agriculture. These people are not going to be working in agricultural jobs.
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It has everything to do with agriculture. These are unskilled workers ready to pick blueberries.

It just so happens that you will find that the closest main immigration inspection station would be in NYC, not any of the surrounding farmlands, as it has been that way since Ellis Island.
 
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Kervork

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dudeoflife said:
It has everything to do with agriculture. These are unskilled workers ready to pick blueberries.

It just so happens that you will find that the closest main immigration inspection station would be in NYC, not any of the surrounding farmlands, as it has been that way since Ellis Island.
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If by blueberries you mean stucco, drywall, framing, roofing, concrete then I guess you would be correct. But then those are all jobs americans don't want to do. At least not after hourly rates have been cut in half by competition from illegal workers. Interestingly enough, construction costs have gone up despite replacing up to 50% with the workers will illegals. It's almost like someone was just pocketing the difference in labor costs instead of passing on the savings.
 
Boreal Curing

Boreal Curing

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Kervork said:
If by blueberries you mean stucco, drywall, framing, roofing, concrete then I guess you would be correct. But then those are all jobs americans don't want to do. At least not after hourly rates have been cut in half by competition from illegal workers. Interestingly enough, construction costs have gone up despite replacing up to 50% with the workers will illegals. It's almost like someone was just pocketing the difference in labor costs instead of passing on the savings.
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Removing illegals from the equation at this point and your prices will increase 400 to 700% across the board. If you think it'll supply the economy with high paying jobs, you're in for a surprise. Your unemployment rate would jump to depression era levels. Politicians know that but scream "illegals are taking your jobs" while doing nothing to the businesses that are hiring them. Hell, even Trump hires them while putting up walls to pretend he's keeping them out.

If you regain your Democracy, and get rid of your Corporatocracy, your illegal migrant problems will disappear. That's actually pretty easy to do. Just make all political donations illegal. Let the parties be funded (limited) by the IRS. Everyone gets the same amount. Problem solved.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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Boreal Curing said:
Removing illegals from the equation at this point and your prices will increase 400 to 700% across the board. If you think it'll supply the economy with high paying jobs, you're in for a surprise. Your unemployment rate would jump to depression era levels. Politicians know that but scream "illegals are taking your jobs" while doing nothing to the businesses that are hiring them. Hell, even Trump hires them while putting up walls to pretend he's keeping them out.

If you regain your Democracy, and get rid of your Corporatocracy, your illegal migrant problems will disappear. That's actually pretty easy to do. Just make all political donations illegal. Let the parties be funded (limited) by the IRS. Everyone gets the same amount. Problem solved.
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i'd like your post if it didn't have an ad in it.....being an advertiser means you can advertise everywhere you post? i thought you guys had your own forum
 
Boreal Curing

Boreal Curing

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
i'd like your post if it didn't have an ad in it.....being an advertiser means you can advertise everywhere you post? i thought you guys had your own forum
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It's in my sig.
Thanks. I'll fix it so it doesn't blend into the post.

You can also turn off signatures in your Account Preferences.
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Peace.
 
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hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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Kervork said:
nypost.com

Exclusive | Biden secretly flying underage migrants into NY in dead of night

Planeloads of immigrants are being flown into New York under the cover of darkness in an effort by Biden’s administration to quietly resettle them.
nypost.com nypost.com

Lot of strawberries to be picked in New York in the middle of winter. I recall when I was a child, driving past the lettuce fields seeing hundreds of Hatians working. Wait... Not.

If these people were destined to work in agriculture why are they being sent to urban areas?

This has nothing to do with agriculture. These people are not going to be working in agricultural jobs.
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You’re a retard for damned sure and this will be my only interaction with you. I smell dogshit from here.
 
Fred444

Fred444

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rollitup said:
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Put this on your page to let everyone know how much our governtment is wasting!!!!
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Teaching aliens human tongue no doubt furthering secret studies of U.A.P. (Unidentified Arial Phenomena) perhaps
 
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