Seed shortage

Gquebed said:

So just read an article on Seebankreview.com about a huge seed shortage, as a result of the rapid increase of legalization/decriminalization all over the world. That seems obvious enough at a glance, but really...that doesnt make sense. If more people than ever before are growing weed then it would stand to better reason that there should be more seeds around than ever before.

So i think it has more to do with breeders feminizing their seeds. They sell you on the convenience of fem seeds and play down the hermi thing, but really they just dont want to sell regular seeds because it means a large percentage of their clientelle will use the reg seeds to make thier own.

And noobs/suckers are going for it... making regular seeds harder and harder to find.

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Gquebed said:

So just read an article on Seebankreview.com about a huge seed shortage, as a result of the rapid increase of legalization/decriminalization all over the world. That seems obvious enough at a glance, but really...that doesnt make sense. If more people than ever before are growing weed then it would stand to better reason that there should be more seeds around than ever before.

So i think it has more to do with breeders feminizing their seeds. They sell you on the convenience of fem seeds and play down the hermi thing, but really they just dont want to sell regular seeds because it means a large percentage of their clientelle wont buy again. They use the reg seeds to make thier own and will only buy again when looking for a new strain....

What perpetuates this are the noobs/suckers that buy into the convenience argument and ignore the hermi thing, which is still a huge issue, regardless of what the breeders want you to believe.

Time to boycott the fems...or soon you wont have a choice...you will HAVE to buy fem seeds and pay through the nose for them...

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ttystikk said:

Clones?

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majins said:

Only shortage iv seen is in Autos.
Not that I really bother with seeds anyway since I just use my own clones. Only pop a few seeds from random street weed my mates have gotten when ever I have some extra space and want to try something new.
I have no issues pulling males but I guess for people that have limited numbers and space it could be a issue for them.

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racerboy71 said:

feminizing seeds does nothing to make them more hermie prone than regular seeds.. it's always going to be the parent stock that is either going to be stable, or unstable, and therefore, it's progeny will also either be stable or unstable.. if you use an unstable strain to create seeds, whether those seeds are feminized or regular, male / female, there's a good chance those unstable characteristics, in this case, hermaphorodism, is going to show in them.. if the parents are stable, and you make either regular, male / female seeds from them, or again, make feminized seeds, then more than likely, the offspring will once again be stable..
all spraying a plant with a chemical like cs, collidial sliver or any other of a few chems used in creating feminzed seeds does is prevent an otherwise female plant from producing the hormone ethylene, the hormone responsible for growing female, pistillate flowers on the parts of the plants that were sprayed with the chemical.. now because the plant is no longer producing the hormone responsible for pistillate flowers, the plant will now grow male, stamenate flowers instead.. breeders will then either take the pollen from the male flowers grown on an ordinary female plant, and either use that pollen to pollinate that same plant, creating what is known as an s1 generation, or self'ed one, or they can use that pollen on a completely different plant, creating in the process an f1 generation..
since the plant only grew male flowers on a female plant because it was sprayed with a chemical that stopped female flower production, and instead male flowers formed, there is no y chromosome present, and all resulting seeds are female. if there was no wonky genitics, ie, hermie prone, present in the parents, there will be no wonky, hermie prone, genetics in the offspring.. if there was, well, yes, the offspring will be just as likely to hermie as the parents were, but this also holds true for either creating feminized seeds, or creating regular, male / female seeds.. spraying a plant with a chem such as c.s. does absolutely nothing to change the dna of a plant, nor does it introduce a hermie trait that wasn't already present in the parents.. again, if the mother plant you're starting with is stable, so will be it's offspring, doesn't matter what sort of seeds one makes from said plant.. pretty much, shit in, shit out, regardless of seed type..

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Indacouch said:

Makes sense ....I've also noticed there's not many people willing to go through the work to get there own seeds ...meaning having a male and pollinating .......people just wana grow and smoke ....I love the fact I don't have to depend on anybody to have a successful grow ...and I don't mind having to pull males ....but people seem so impatient these days and want stuff now now now .......I do get seeds don't get me wrong ....but I definately don't have to

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CriticalCheeze said:

Clones are great to continue the genetics of a said strain your running, I run them sometimes don't get me wrong.. But clones in my eyes are just another way similar to feminized seeds... 90% of the time i run regs, even autoflowers i have ran regs. Only reason i see a shortage in seeds would be regs, due to people not wanting them anymore other than us growers who actually go into depth with breeding and etc.. ( Proud to say im working on my first F1 shortly)( got my breed chamber all sealed up and one small window, just got to get everything physically in there and working lol) People just buy buy buy all the fems seeds Because i think due to the fact it is so openly accepted to grow now in over 50% of the united states, people are getting them for the convenience and the fact they if want to only have to grow 1 plant.. instead of say 5 regs to aim for 1 mother for clones or what be it. People who tend to grow smaller amounts for personal tend to go fems more i think. In the beginning of my grow career that is what i did. 3 years straight. i grew 1 strain and 1 strain only.

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Gquebed said:

Ya ya... we had this discussion before in another thread. You have your opinion and i have mine, which is simply that feminization is a stress reaction, meaning that to produce fem seeds the plant is stressed with a chemical catalyst. So of course fem seeds are more prone to hermi .... as that is exactly the process that makes fem seeds.

I have never had a hermi that wasnt from fem seed. And that has happened with at least one plant in all three tries i gave fem seeds. Also, it seems that everytime a person posts pics on this site we find out it was a fem seed.

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Gquebed said:

Ya ya... we had this discussion before in another thread. You have your opinion and i have mine, which is simply that feminization is a stress reaction, meaning that to produce fem seeds the plant is stressed with a chemical catalyst. So of course fem seeds are more prone to hermi .... as that is exactly the process that makes fem seeds.

I have never had a hermi that wasnt from fem seed. And that has happened with at least one plant in all three tries i gave fem seeds. Also, it seems that everytime a person posts pics on this site we find out it was a fem seed.

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