Seedling is dying what's wrong?

JuicyyFruit

JuicyyFruit

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I have my seedling in a red solo cup with fox farm's oceans forest. I have it surrounded by 3 23 watt 5000k 1600 lumen CFL bulbs and one LED 50 watt 6400k 1600 lumen bulb. I've recently brought all these bulbs within 1-2 inches away from the plant. I pretty much had light over it 24/7. I have nothing in the oceans forest besides distilled water. The seedling broke soil one week ago. I watered it last on 11/25, but as soon as I saw these symptoms I checked the soil and it looked and felt extremely dry (as you can see) so I watered it again. I've watered it every third day usually.

The room temperature has been mostly high this week. I've been germinating a new seed for the past 3 days so I've had a heater in the room to warm that (I moved the heater into another room last night). I have a fan on my ceiling so that been in use and I crack my windows open and open the blinds occasionally.

My lights are all bundled together directly around the plant and I have a car sunshade "tent" wrapped around the lights. To my touch the tent never felt too warm. Only caution I have is from the closeness of the lights for a week old seedling.

The First set of leaves have folded somewhat like a taco. There are a few yellow spots on parts of the plant (mostly on second set of leaves and cotyledon). There are some areas where it looks like a blister or burn (right leaf).
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mr sunshine

mr sunshine

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If your growing a newly rooted plant or a very sensitive strain start them in foxfarm light warrior..u can transplant directly into ocean forest or happy frog when they get stronger.. If the strain is sensitive to nutes u can topdress the light warrior with the ocean forest or happy frog...
 
Nullis

Nullis

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OF isn't really a seed starting mix, that is what their Light Warrior is for.

Plants need water; don't let seedlings get that dry. Fill your cups to the rim with media, don't waste container space. Don't coddle them either. I haven't had any issues growing seedlings within inches of a T5 fixture, with 24 hours of lighting. Temperatures in the lower 70's or 80's is fine, there should be some light circulation, though. Higher wattage CFLs might get a bit hotter than T5's.
 
DemonTrich

DemonTrich

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don't use black gold seed starter soil. holds way too much moisture. wish my local store sold FFLW. and FFOF is definitely too hot for seeds/seedlings.
 
JuicyyFruit

JuicyyFruit

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Nullis said:
OF isn't really a seed starting mix, that is what their Light Warrior is for.

Plants need water; don't let seedlings get that dry. Fill your cups to the rim with media, don't waste container space. Don't coddle them either. I haven't had any issues growing seedlings within inches of a T5 fixture, with 24 hours of lighting. Temperatures in the lower 70's or 80's is fine, there should be some light circulation, though. Higher wattage CFLs might get a bit hotter than T5's.
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Thanks guys so what happens if a soil is too hot? How severe is the problem? Growth seems really slow. I decided to get rid of the sunshade tent and just have on two 23 watt CFLs 6 inches away.
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bu$hleaguer

bu$hleaguer

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Are you misting them at all? Just curious because
misting or spraying them under the lights can cause spotting on the leaves like you have.
 
Nullis

Nullis

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When you start seedlings in a hot mix, they can burn. It doesn't help if they are also too dry, water when the soil surface is just a bit moist beneath. Just give them plain water. Don't mix in anything at all. I wouldn't recommend spraying them with anything at that stage either, unless they a need pest prevention measure.

Plain water as often as it needs it, it should do fine.
 
Don Geno

Don Geno

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JuicyyFruit said:
I have my seedling in a red solo cup with fox farm's oceans forest. I have it surrounded by 3 23 watt 5000k 1600 lumen CFL bulbs and one LED 50 watt 6400k 1600 lumen bulb. I've recently brought all these bulbs within 1-2 inches away from the plant. I pretty much had light over it 24/7. I have nothing in the oceans forest besides distilled water. The seedling broke soil one week ago. I watered it last on 11/25, but as soon as I saw these symptoms I checked the soil and it looked and felt extremely dry (as you can see) so I watered it again. I've watered it every third day usually.

The room temperature has been mostly high this week. I've been germinating a new seed for the past 3 days so I've had a heater in the room to warm that (I moved the heater into another room last night). I have a fan on my ceiling so that been in use and I crack my windows open and open the blinds occasionally.

My lights are all bundled together directly around the plant and I have a car sunshade "tent" wrapped around the lights. To my touch the tent never felt too warm. Only caution I have is from the closeness of the lights for a week old seedling.

The First set of leaves have folded somewhat like a taco. There are a few yellow spots on parts of the plant (mostly on second set of leaves and cotyledon). There are some areas where it looks like a blister or burn (right leaf).
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During the seedling stage it is very important not to miss a beat when watering the early root development is very important this will pretty much tell you how the overall strain will grow, if you damage the root structure this early it will severely stress your plant 3 cfls for a single seedling that close is a bad idea unless having a sweet airflow blowing the heat away..3 23 watt 6500k on 4 seedlings is what I use ..the heater thrown into a fan can react also as a hot heat wave something to consider but to stick to the simple answer cfls to close the flaring from the leaves and the brown spot say it all I agree with Nullis if the heat didn't get it the soil would of try a lighter soil mix.. flush your soil a little mist your leaves and raise those lights and you will be just fine :hump::weed::weed::clap::blsmoke::bigjoint:bongsmilie:peace:keep on growing hope this helps!
 
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MinnesotaHomegrown303

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Cobnobuler said:
Six words....Everything this guy says is bullshit.
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Agreed. Fox farm works just as well as anything else out there as long as you know how to use/supplement it to your specific preference. I have used it since my first soil grow and although FFOF is hot for seedlings I have seen many adjust quickly and suffer little to no burn. It all depends on your set up and the strain. I'd say just water your babies with distilled for a week or two until they have adjusted.
 
rob333

rob333

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Big Trees said:
Fox farm may have its issues but thats all some people can get and new growers don't really mix their own soil. Better than miracle grow soil lol
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we dont stock it and with soils that already have nutes in it we say to run it at your own risk we also give out feed charts on what we would dose it at if they fuck that up well there not worth our time ;)
 
Cobnobuler

Cobnobuler

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Couldn't disagree more on Foxfarm. I use Pro-mix some too ( along with Foxfarm) but if Pro-Mix is all you use, then its going to need amended along the way, and amended carefully. For a noob, they're MUCH better off with Foxfarm straight out of the bag cut with some perlite and they wont have to worry about adding shit to it for the first 5-6 weeks.
I've grown shit that turned out dank as hell over and over with Foxfarm to say its shit.
Clearly it isn't.
There is also proof in writing that there are some people that work at Hydro stores that dont know shit apparently
 
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