seedling new growth slightly pale green. Nitrogen excess or deficiency?

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johnehazeharvester

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I am growing - 4 different strain
OG Kush and Alien OG from Seed Supreme and a Rosetta Stone and Mota Hari from Brothers Grimm

I noticed top of OG Kush with slight yellowing / light green new growth.
All plants under similar conditions
Ppfd 480-600 The OG Kush is 500 ppfd
Temp 76
RH 54%

(RH is relatively low because I still have autoflowers in the same room which have not quite finished so I dont want bud rot on them.)
2/1/2023
Transplanted seedlings into 5 gallon pots.
Used mycorrhizal fungi 1/2 tsp
soil
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• one bag of Vigaro potting soil in bottom 1/3 of 5 gallon grow bag mixed with
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○ Tbsp of gypsum( Calcium Sulfate Dihydrate - Gypsum - CaSO4*2H2O
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○ Tbsp Mycorrhizal fungus (Myco Bliss - Mycorrhizal Fungi Inoculant for Plants - Concentrated Fertilizer and Organic Root Enhancer for Healthy Plant Yield and Water Retention in Soil )
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○ 16 oz Super soil concentrate (Super Soil Autoflower Concentrate/Visit the Nature's Living Soil Store
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○ 25% of volume mixed with perlite
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• three bags of 12 qt ocean green fox farm in potting soil on top 2/3 of 5 gallon grow bag( added to 4 grow bags)


other amendments
I water w fish tank water diluted with 1:3 parts of water total ppm 200.
Sprayed with organic rev( has some humic acid) 2ml in 6oz spray bottle
Added 1/8 tsp aloe vera to foliar spray and watering

Top dress 2 tbsp azomite in each 5 gallon bucket

Occassionaly slight overwatering?
After foliar spray this AM I noticed significant drooping leave for a few hours which is from too much water.

Is this normal?
Is this from Nitrogen excess or deficiency?

Thanks in advance.
Below are picture of all 4.
I am concerned with the first OG Kush
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Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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how long ago did you make your soil up? it takes a while for stuff to start breaking down and becoming available...they look kind of hungry, you might want to consider a dose of ewc tea or something of the sort to get them through until your soil starts to break down enough to take over.
 
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johnehazeharvester

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
how long ago did you make your soil up? it takes a while for stuff to start breaking down and becoming available...they look kind of hungry, you might want to consider a dose of ewc tea or something of the sort to get them through until your soil starts to break down enough to take over.
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Ok thanks
I’ll top dress with alfalfa meal for now and water that in a little bit
 
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Roger A. Shrubber said:
how long ago did you make your soil up? it takes a while for stuff to start breaking down and becoming available...they look kind of hungry, you might want to consider a dose of ewc tea or something of the sort to get them through until your soil starts to break down enough to take over.
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I mixed soil 18 days ago. I watered soil with a tbsp of molasses / gallon to get the microrganisms going about 2 weeks prior to transplanting. I transplanted 7 days ago.
 
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Nope_49595933949 said:
Got picks of the other plants?
I fill mine almost all the way, they will compact some and then I top dress more about halfway through flower.
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I'll get some earthworm castings mix w perlite and soil and apply to top of soil. I probably could cover the stem about an inch which should secure it better as the seedlings were a bit leggy.
My three other plants had some nutrient lock out towards the end. They are not pretty. This was my first grow. Things were going great until a couple weeks ago. I flushed them all. I don't think the buds fully developed but they are milky and sugary but none are amber yet. I have to go away this Thursday and return Sunday. I am planning on chopping them early next week

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johnehazeharvester said:
I'll get some earthworm castings mix w perlite and soil and apply to top of soil. I probably could cover the stem about an inch which should secure it better as the seedlings were a bit leggy.
My three other plants had some nutrient lock out towards the end. They are not pretty. This was my first grow. Things were going great until a couple weeks ago. I flushed them all. I don't think the buds fully developed but they are milky and sugary but none are amber yet. I have to go away this Thursday and return Sunday. I am planning on chopping them early next week

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that happens to a lot of people who use bloom booster type products...too much k and way too much P interfere with N, C , and sulfur
if you're doing organics, not sure what product, but i'll bet one is hot, if you read through them.
 
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Roger A. Shrubber said:
that happens to a lot of people who use bloom booster type products...too much k and way too much P interfere with N, C , and sulfur
if you're doing organics, not sure what product, but i'll bet one is hot, if you read through them.
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I didnt use real bloom booster.
I was away for a full week and had nutirents in a bag. I used fox farm trio as directed. While i was away they got double nutrients they normally got. They looked okay but a bit dark, maybe nitrogen toxicity which locked out other nutrients,
I also gave them some epson salt maybe that locked out calcium.
Finally i made my own bloom booster with wood ash aprox 1 tbsp that sat in a gallon of water. This should provide P and K but is alkaline. I did ph it down to around 6.4-6.7. So I may have had nute lock out from improper ph.

As my first grow I was experimenting in my excitement. Probably should have kept it simple to decrease variables.

This grow i am doing it much more organic but i still will likely mess up. So I topped dressed with alfalfa meal 1 tbsp per plant and watered in with 1 ml of grow big and 2 ml big bloom split between all 4 plants in about a liter. Probably watered each plant 250 ml. A couple showed signs of overwatering for about 3-4 hours. I poured water about 1-2 inches away from stem and figured it is in a relatively big pot, so risk of significant damage from overwatering is unlikely. I’ll let the top dry out before watering again. I wanted some of the alfalfa meal to get watered in.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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johnehazeharvester said:
I didnt use real bloom booster.
I was away for a full week and had nutirents in a bag. I used fox farm trio as directed. While i was away they got double nutrients they normally got. They looked okay but a bit dark, maybe nitrogen toxicity which locked out other nutrients,
I also gave them some epson salt maybe that locked out calcium.
Finally i made my own bloom booster with wood ash aprox 1 tbsp that sat in a gallon of water. This should provide P and K but is alkaline. I did ph it down to around 6.4-6.7. So I may have had nute lock out from improper ph.

As my first grow I was experimenting in my excitement. Probably should have kept it simple to decrease variables.

This grow i am doing it much more organic but i still will likely mess up. So I topped dressed with alfalfa meal 1 tbsp per plant and watered in with 1 ml of grow big and 2 ml big bloom split between all 4 plants in about a liter. Probably watered each plant 250 ml. A couple showed signs of overwatering for about 3-4 hours. I poured water about 1-2 inches away from stem and figured it is in a relatively big pot, so risk of significant damage from overwatering is unlikely. I’ll let the top dry out before watering again. I wanted some of the alfalfa meal to get watered in.
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good luck, i'm not an organic guy, but i know you can get great results from it once you figure it out.
I'm a Jack's 3-2-1 guy, fool proof, and i should know
 
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