Seedlings Continue Dying

greasemonkeymann

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I have better results using a much smaller pot, like a polo cup, and use something like the roots soil, you mentioned, and cut that with 50% vermiculite. No food, no ph adjusting, no nothing (no dr.doom spray, that'll fry the seedlings), leave them alone other than ventilation, light and water, and I PROMISE they'll live. Nothing for two weeks.
 

uncle_blaze

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I have better results using a much smaller pot, like a polo cup, and use something like the roots soil, you mentioned, and cut that with 50% vermiculite. No food, no ph adjusting, no nothing (no dr.doom spray, that'll fry the seedlings), leave them alone other than ventilation, light and water, and I PROMISE they'll live. Nothing for two weeks.
I am currently in the process of baking some soil that I had stored in my shed outside (200 degrees for 1 hour, right ?) its new it was just out there open so baking for precautionary measures. I am going to mix the Fox Farms seed starter ( that's what I'm baking) with the Roots Organics soil in the red solo cups. So once I do that no nothing including water ? for two weeks ?
 

greasemonkeymann

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I am currently in the process of baking some soil that I had stored in my shed outside (200 degrees for 1 hour, right ?) its new it was just out there open so baking for precautionary measures. I am going to mix the Fox Farms seed starter ( that's what I'm baking) with the Roots Organics soil in the red solo cups. So once I do that no nothing including water ? for two weeks ?
no, no, of course not, I said other than ventilation, water and light, do nothing.
No need to bake anything man, unless you think there is a bunch of bugs or something, you are cooking the bennies in there, well there probably isn't in there anyways, but still.
No need to do that, just cut that seed starter with the roots and use that. it'll work, and DON"T overwater.
I know it sounds counter-intuitive, but really, the worst thing you can do when first getting the hang of cannabis growing, is too much.
Too much water/nutes/additives/ph/ATTENTION/ even too much information can be crippling. A good saying I like, is paralyzation from analyzation.
 

uncle_blaze

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no, no, of course not, I said other than ventilation, water and light, do nothing.
No need to bake anything man, unless you think there is a bunch of bugs or something, you are cooking the bennies in there, well there probably isn't in there anyways, but still.
No need to do that, just cut that seed starter with the roots and use that. it'll work, and DON"T overwater.
Okay cool. Thanks a million
 

greasemonkeymann

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Okay cool. Thanks a million
my pleasure, another tip is use a turkey baster and a squirt bottle to water them. Sounds stupid, but the spray bottle brakes the surface tension and allows you to water them without drenching the soil, keeping the roots quasi- moist and "searching" for water as opposed to drenched and suffocating for oxygen.
also the first transplant it's crucial to smother the roots in mychorrizae
 

uncle_blaze

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my pleasure, another tip is use a turkey baster and a squirt bottle to water them. Sounds stupid, but the spray bottle brakes the surface tension and allows you to water them without drenching the soil, keeping the roots quasi- moist and "searching" for water as opposed to drenched and suffocating for oxygen.
also the first transplant it's crucial to smother the roots in mychorrizae
When watering I have always watered until It drained out the bottom, that's correct isn't it ? and I didn't understand the last sentence.
 

greasemonkeymann

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When watering I have always watered until It drained out the bottom, that's correct isn't it ? and I didn't understand the last sentence.
hmm, that's something we all have diff opinions on, the INITIAL watering (the one when you water prior to transplanting) that's when you water until it drains through, after that I water seedlings sparingly, for the reasons I stated earlier (makes the roots "reach") I water thoroughly once a week , to keep any dry-pockets from forming, if its VERY hot or dry out, I water thoroughly each time, but seedlings are sensitive to root rot (isn't much roots to begin with)
Now, if you didn't get my last sentence, you need to read the sticky on mychorrizae, that stuff is GOLD, next to a good vermicompost, myco is essential to soil/organic growers
 

uncle_blaze

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hmm, that's something we all have diff opinions on, the INITIAL watering (the one when you water prior to transplanting) that's when you water until it drains through, after that I water seedlings sparingly, for the reasons I stated earlier (makes the roots "reach") I water thoroughly once a week , to keep any dry-pockets from forming, if its VERY hot or dry out, I water thoroughly each time, but seedlings are sensitive to root rot (isn't much roots to begin with)
Now, if you didn't get my last sentence, you need to read the sticky on mychorrizae, that stuff is GOLD, next to a good vermicompost, myco is essential to soil/organic growers
Okay I read up on that, more great info again, I've planted a couple more and just used a mixture of seed starter and that soil that could be a little hot, so it should be watered down enough now if that's the problem. and their in those small red solo cups. thanks again
 

greasemonkeymann

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Okay I read up on that, more great info again, I've planted a couple more and just used a mixture of seed starter and that soil that could be a little hot, so it should be watered down enough now if that's the problem. and their in those small red solo cups. thanks again
I don't think it was the soil being too hot, I think it was the added nutes/ph/ dr doom that did it. You'll get it this time.
 

lips

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I've always used Roots. It is hot so to speak , packed with all of the RIGHT Ingredients. It is also one of the most expensive (top shelf). You can get a PH meter cheap and it is something I think you should have. The Roots soil seems to have gnats associated with it every time. Larvae maybe I don't know. I don't know about your glass mats either. But I use Gnatrol. A powder that is mixed with water, that I pour into the roots soil before any seedlings have been planted. No more Gnats. Good Luck !
 

VX420

Active Member
Stop giving them all the STUFF. they are way to young. Just out them in good soil and water ( smaller pots will help a lot) but I would not use the root stuff and DEF not use the Fert that is killing them for sure.. Try it without,,,,,, just soil and water I bet they will do fine.

Your loving them to death with to much snake oil.
 

uncle_blaze

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Stop giving them all the STUFF. they are way to young. Just out them in good soil and water ( smaller pots will help a lot) but I would not use the root stuff and DEF not use the Fert that is killing them for sure.. Try it without,,,,,, just soil and water I bet they will do fine.

Your loving them to death with to much snake oil.
That's what ive always done in the past. the only reason ive been loving them to death is because they would die a couple weeks into life. I started 4 new ones a couple days ago. they are starting to break the soil now and they are in those small red solo plastic cups with good soil and that's it for these. I have confidence this time. it has to have been something ive done, but prior to that I did everything the same way I have done before. thinking my garden room has a weed ghost or something. I bought this house a year ago and this is the 4th attempt at growing here. Anyway, thank you for your advice. I greatly appreciate and take all advice given to me, so if you have anymore suggestions shoot em my way. thanks
 
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