Seedlings with Pale Leaf Tips (pix)
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algebraist
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MichiganMedGrower: Okay, I'm ready to believe I was overwatering. (As far as listening to strangers on the internet, I hear you (stranger...). I had been hoping for a larger selection of opinions to compare before I believed someone, but they came in slowly and I had to do something...) Especially since, as you say, flushing seemed to make it worse. I do have the latest books by both of those guys, and have read them pretty carefully, but they both describe overwatering as producing leaves that curl downward and droop at the ends. Mine weren't doing that, which was part of why I didn't believe I was overwatering, but maybe in extreme cases they look more like mine. Or maybe it's a matter of how overwatering affects Northern Lights. Or overwatering in the presence of a lot of nutrients.
In any case, now they seem to be doing better. Anybody care to comment on whether or not a full recovery is likely?
In any case, now they seem to be doing better. Anybody care to comment on whether or not a full recovery is likely?
MichiganMedGrower
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They look like they will do fine. They will focus on new growth.
You are fine man. Your questions and issues have happened to all of us. I burned up my first lower leaves the first time and scoured the Internet for answers.
Seedlings get overwatered differently than a young plant with a developing root ball. The seedling has no real need for the water as it has only a little root. It drinks in little drops so it ends up rotting in the wet soil.
An older plant will keep taking up water until the leaves droop as you said them the plant will be unable to uptake more and the same thing will happen if more water is continually added.
Hope that helped.
MichiganMedGrower
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algebraist
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@MichiganMedGrower -- Got it, on all counts. Thanks very much for all your help.
MichiganMedGrower
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No problem good luck.
PurpleHazeSatyr
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Your soil is definitely to hot. I wouldn't use FFOF that soil just runs hot in general. I would recommend going with a lighter mix. I know that Roots Organic has some soil that is great for starting seedling like their "Green Lite" mix. Also when you have a seedling don't overthink/overcorrect. Just let it do its thing these plants are extremely resilient, and just let the soil dry completely out as that will give your roots time to spread and chase the water.
MichiganMedGrower
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Too hot? No. Overwater any seedling and it will burn like the above shown.
All plants and cutting here are and have been in ocean forest and 20% added perlite from the start and given only non ph adjusted well water.
Only Botanicare Pure Blend Pro Grow was added after week 2 or 3. No other products or additives used.
Sorry @algebraist for cluttering your thread but I can't take so much opinion and mis information. We invest a lot emotionally and financially in our endeavor so I think it's time to bust all the forum myth.
Of the major "pot"soils ocean forest has been the most consistent and best for me. But I agree cutting it with large perlite gives better results because of improved drainage.
The nutes in OF are organic. They are not even available for a week 1 seedling yet.
algebraist
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Don't apologize @MichiganMedGrower -- I am in favor of myth-busting! Everyone has their opinion and I'm not particularly qualified -- yet -- to judge. In the meantime, if more experienced growers want to debate what's going on with my plants, that's good news for me -- I stand to learn a lot. Beautiful plants!
MichiganMedGrower
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Thank you sir! And you have the right attitude to do well.
I waited for almost 3 years while I learned before I ever posted here. I just lurked and compared info and watched my plants.
For basics that are really helpful here I like Uncle Bens threads the best. But you still have to ignore the arguments.
algebraist
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Thanks (again!) for the advice -- I will definitely poke around for Uncle Bens.
Regarding arguments, I once read someone's forum signature (different site) that said something like: "Arguing on the internet is like competing in the special olympics -- even if you win, you're still retarded." I like to keep it civil...
Regarding arguments, I once read someone's forum signature (different site) that said something like: "Arguing on the internet is like competing in the special olympics -- even if you win, you're still retarded." I like to keep it civil...
MichiganMedGrower
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I wrote his name without some punctuation.
It's is actually just Uncle Ben
And I am plenty guilty of arguing stupidly. It is easy to get off track when the comments start rolling in.
pink isn't well
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Mine were like this a few weeks ago. They will be OK. Mine are looking great now. I let them get too close to the light. When they recover a bit and get a few more leaves and new branches, pluck the dead ones off and Shel be back to normal. Only negative I can see is, by the time they are recovered, they would have been bigger. Just don't over water, or add nuts. Move light away and keep them in that state. Good luck
algebraist
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pink isn't well
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I have two that were so bad I wrote them off. Roughly about 4weeks ago. Burnt them with light when seedlings. The leaves where whiter than yours. So I removed from garden. After days of just sat in dark they were still hanging in there. So put them back in. Took 2 weeks recovering from crispy leaves etc week or so new growth, then they started stretch and flower a week ago. If u want a pic I'm happy to show you.
algebraist
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Well my current best guess is that mine were overwatered, not light burned, but if you care to share pictures, sure, I'd be happy to see them. (Love the name -- "pink isn't well" -- by the way. He's back at the hotel... Had me singing most of the day.)
pink isn't well
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I'll take a pic tomorrow. But in my experience it wasn't the water. It was nutes or light.
algebraist
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Hi All -- I'm going to stop posting to this thread, as they're fine now, but I figured I'd post one last picture to show how they recovered. Thanks to all of you who helped.
