Seeds and Leaves Question

Hi,

Totally virginal questions here :P

If I grow the plants for seeds, can the buds still be dried and used after the seeds have been harvested from them?

Can a plant bud more than once and be harvested for seeds more than once?

Also are the crystal encrusted leaves below the buds just waste matter?

Thanks!
 

Brick Top

New Member
1. Yes, you can dry the buds, remove the seeds and then smoke the buds but the potency level will be much lower than non-seeded buds. To be assured of getting fully mature viable seeds you need to flower longer than you would for bud just to smoke. Once trichomes become fully amber the THC begins to degrade so it all depends on what is more important to you, seeds or good bud? Also the process of making seeds robs energy from bud and resin/trichome/THC production so that lowers the potency level also.
 
Why not just do clones if you want to keep growing the same strain or is it that you hope to sell beans?
 
2. Plants can be re-vegged so yes a plant can be re-used. Do a search here on RIU and also Google revegging marijuana plants to learn more.
 
3. Leaves with trichomes are not waste material if you are willing to make hash from them, assuming of course that you have enough leaf material with trichomes to go to the effort and expense. If so research Bubble Hash …. It is the best way to go.
 
Thanks, that was great info!

I am slowly working my way through RIU, just lots to read :)

I wanted to be able to turn at least one plant into a seed bearer so that I could have a backup supply of seeds, incase anything unexpected happened. I'd rather have my own seeds than having to buy new each time.

Do the seeds fall out on their own accord or do you need to cut off the buds when the trichomesturn amber and pop the buds for them?
 

LUDACRIS

New Member
Producing Female Seeds (by shaky).
If it were possible to know which seeds are female and which are male, marijuana growing would be even simpler than it is. There is not practical way to discern the gender of a seed - but there is a simpler procedure for producing seeds that will all grow into female plants.
To produce female seeds, the plants are fertilised with pollen with male flowers that appear on a basically female plant. Such flowers appear on intersexes, reversed females, and hermaphrodites. Female plants have an XX complement of sex chromosomes; therefore, the pollen from the male flowers that form on female plants can only carry an X chromosome. All seeds produced from flowers fertilised with this "female" pollen will thus have an XX pair of sex chromosomes, which is the female genotype.
Although the male Cannabis plant can produce female flowers, it cannot produce seed; so there is no chance of mistakenly producing seed on a male plant. It is possible to use pollen from an intersexual plant that is basically male (XY); the resulting crop of seeds will have the normal 1:1 ratio of males to females. For this reason, choose a plant that is distinctly female as a pollen source. A female plant with a few random male-flower clusters, or a female plant that has reversed sex are both good pollen sources. The seed bearer can be any female, female intersex, or reversed-female plant.
In most crops, careful inspection of all the females usually reveals a few male flowers. And often, when females are left flowering for an extended period of time, some male flowers will develop. If no male flowers form, you can help to induce male flowers on female plants by severe pruning. One such procedure is to take the bulk of the harvest, but to leave behind some green leaves to maintain growth. Most of the plants will continue to form female flowers, but male flowers are also likely to form. At times, the plants may not grow particularly well, and may in fact form distorted and twisted leaves, but they will produce viable seeds as long as some stigmas were white when pollinated. (Remember, it only takes a few fertile buds to produce hundreds of seeds.) Pollinate the female flowers by hand as soon as pollen becomes available.

Double Harvests added by j.k.t
Most marijuana plants take at least five months to reach maturity. Once the plant has reached maturity, it is forming its most potent marijuana, and should not be cut down completely. You can often induce the females to flower a second (and sometimes a third) time, especially if the plants are indoors or if the weather is expected to stay mild for several more weeks.
To encourage a second bloom, first take the bulk of the harvest: all but the smallest buds, and most of the leaf. Some green leaves should be left on the plant to maintain the plant's growth. After harvesting, give the plants a thorough watering, and water with a soluble, complete fertiliser that provides a good supply of both N and P. This will encourage new growth and continued flowering.
Indoors, the best procedure is to treat the plants like a hedge. Cut all the plants back to equal heights, about two to three feet tall. Remove most of the grass, but again leave a few green leaves on the plant. Don't remove lower branches even if they are leafless, since these will sprout again. Lower the light system to the tops of the plants, and maintain the daily cycle at about 12 hours. The second crop of buds will be ready for harvest in four to eight weeks. With this system, the plants appear like dense hedges of buds. If the second crop of buds forms quickly, you should try for a third crop. Continue to fertilise the plants regularly, and watch for signs of magnesium deficiencies, which often show up when the plants have been growing for an extended time.
Double and triple harvests are one of the benefits of indoor growing. Although plants are relatively small indoors, the original harvest of buds can be triples in the next four months.
revegging plants after harvesting.
After the buds are harvested, you may realize just how much you want to perpetuate a plant you neglected to take cuttings from. Cut the main stalk down to the point where below several growth tips or buds are remaining. Return the plant to a vegetative fertilizer and photoperiod. Over the next several weeks, the plant will elongate and devlop new upward growth. It is very important not to overwater the plant after it has been cut back. The reduced above ground plant structure is still being fed by the entire existing root system, which can cause an excessive amount of water uptake and the resultant stress associated. The use of products containing ammonium form nitrogen, such as chicken manure or Genesis Formula Grow 2 will encourage rapid growth and stem elongation. Trace element supplemenation, co2 and 24 hour lighting are helpful.

LUDACRIS.
 

Brick Top

New Member
Do the seeds fall out on their own accord or do you need to cut off the buds when the trichomesturn amber and pop the buds for them?

I have never attempted to produce seeds to grow from so your question is best left to those who have.
 
If I were to venture a guess I would say that since in nature plants will mature and dry out and many of the seeds will drop on their own and that is Mother Nature’s way of assuring fully mature viable seeds. But if you wait that long all your buds will be worth is compost so again it depends on if viable seeds are your single priority or not.
 
If you do hope for decent smoke and viable seeds hopefully someone with seed producing experience can tell you if there is a middle of the road that will give you an acceptable amount/level of both and if so how and where it can be found.
 
Thanks Brick Top, sounds like it's a balancing act between timing it well enough to get viable seeds and still get something more from the buds. Anyone able to provide any insights there?
 
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